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Wolfie said:
Wow, but is that assuming Smith has moved on, or could we possibly afford (and get) both?
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I know nothing at all about Smith or his NIL ask/how tough a get he would be.

There's been chatter about Richmond for a long time though. Seems definite to me that he's waiting on something -- NIL guarantee is what I suspect. I always assume these days that every talented kid with the numbers to match is asking for $1 million so haggling is happening I'm sure.
 
L J S A said:
I know nothing at all about Smith or his NIL ask/how tough a get he would be.

There's been chatter about Richmond for a long time though. Seems definite to me that he's waiting on something -- NIL guarantee is what I suspect. I always assume these days that every talented kid with the numbers to match is asking for $1 million so haggling is happening I'm sure.
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While Smith might be a better fit, I’d take Kadary if we can get him. A bird in the hand . . . He definitely moves the needle!
 
Boo Harvey said:
While Smith might be a better fit, I’d take Kadary if we can get him. A bird in the hand . . . He definitely moves the needle!
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Would love either one, but lean to Smith because he'd make everything flow and everybody running on all cylinders.
 
I think Kadary is a great college player, but I just don't think he's a good fit for a Pitino system or our roster. We gotta get shooters in our back court. I also don't like the rumors of sitting out due to NIL at SHU + the apparent drama with him and Sha (rumored on Trilly).

If we end up with him, I think it'll just end up in disappointment and a lot of debate on our message boards. I obviously understand Rick would be signing off on this and he think he would make it work, but I don't think Kadary is a home run.
 
dk423 said:
I think Kadary is a great college player, but I just don't think he's a good fit for a Pitino system or our roster. We gotta get shooters in our back court. I also don't like the rumors of sitting out due to NIL at SHU + the apparent drama with him and Sha (rumored on Trilly).

If we end up with him, I think it'll just end up in disappointment and a lot of debate on our message boards. I obviously understand Rick would be signing off on this and he think he would make it work, but I don't think Kadary is a home run.
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I agree with most of what you say, but I think it depends on the alternative. I'd be more than glad to have him or instead an alternative who happens to be a better fit (better outside shot, quicker, better defender). Kadary did show the ability to make the others around him on offense better.
 
dk423 said:
I think Kadary is a great college player, but I just don't think he's a good fit for a Pitino system or our roster. We gotta get shooters in our back court. I also don't like the rumors of sitting out due to NIL at SHU + the apparent drama with him and Sha (rumored on Trilly).

If we end up with him, I think it'll just end up in disappointment and a lot of debate on our message boards. I obviously understand Rick would be signing off on this and he think he would make it work, but I don't think Kadary is a home run.
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Counterpoint: maybe we have enough shooting with Wilcher, Dunlap, Glover, Liotopoulos, perhaps an improved Luis. What we lack is playmaking, which Richmond is excellent at.

Don't disagree that Smith may be a better fit but OTOH there is no projection needed about what Richmond can do in the BE. He is an excellent player. Agree the tempo fit may be odd.
 
lawmanfan said:
Counterpoint: maybe we have enough shooting with Wilcher, Dunlap, Glover, Liotopoulos, perhaps an improved Luis. What we lack is playmaking, which Richmond is excellent at.

Don't disagree that Smith may be a better fit but OTOH there is no projection needed about what Richmond can do in the BE. He is an excellent player. Agree the tempo fit may be odd.
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My addition to this is Scott, who is a more proven shooter than anyone above.
 
lawmanfan said:
Counterpoint: maybe we have enough shooting with Wilcher, Dunlap, Glover, Liotopoulos, perhaps an improved Luis. What we lack is playmaking, which Richmond is excellent at.

Don't disagree that Smith may be a better fit but OTOH there is no projection needed about what Richmond can do in the BE. He is an excellent player. Agree the tempo fit may be odd.
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The scary part of your counterpoint is that you included two freshman. No matter how good they are, we all agree that counting on freshman is a fool's errand. To be fair, I also think Scott and maybe an improved Zuby can also help us space the floor. But I don't know.

The tempo fit scares me, and I don't totally see how he and Luis make sense on a roster together. Unless Luis' three point shot improves back to UMASS levels and above, I think it may get very crowded in the paint.

He's obviously a top BE player and I know Rick loves his defense (when he brings it)/toughness. But I would rather have us getting guys that fit Pitino's system better at this point. With all the names being floated around pre-portal through now, it's been weird how it's a lot of guys that don't really make sense for Pitino (Kriisa, Pope, for example).

Really hope we land Smith so we don't need to bother figuring out how Kadary fits for four months. lol
 
hnkcolumbia said:
I agree with most of what you say, but I think it depends on the alternative. I'd be more than glad to have him or instead an alternative who happens to be a better fit (better outside shot, quicker, better defender). Kadary did show the ability to make the others around him on offense better.
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100% agree, which is why I'm hoping we have more surprise entries in the portal in the last week. We gotta land someone in the back court who can be a starter Day 1.
 
dk423 said:
100% agree, which is why I'm hoping we have more surprise entries in the portal in the last week. We gotta land someone in the back court who can be a starter Day 1.
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Kadary is a fantastic player. If we are fortunate we may sign him and the PG. Then maybe get lucky with a Ledlum ruling.
Remember: Coach knows what he’s doing. If Kadary doesn’t enter the Portal then we realize that Coach doesn’t rate him. Though we may.
 
And ignoring that Richmond chose to “quit” on his teammates in the middle of the season. None of our votes count but I am a very definite hard NO. Besides the “Me” attitude that screams of, IMO, makes a mockery of jettisoning everyone last year over “culture”. Then that move screams to me of the Anderson situation more than anything.
I acknowledge I could be wrong about that, but that’s my opinion.
 
dk423 said:
The scary part of your counterpoint is that you included two freshman. No matter how good they are, we all agree that counting on freshman is a fool's errand. To be fair, I also think Scott and maybe an improved Zuby can also help us space the floor. But I don't know.

The tempo fit scares me, and I don't totally see how he and Luis make sense on a roster together. Unless Luis' three point shot improves back to UMASS levels and above, I think it may get very crowded in the paint.

He's obviously a top BE player and I know Rick loves his defense (when he brings it)/toughness. But I would rather have us getting guys that fit Pitino's system better at this point. With all the names being floated around pre-portal through now, it's been weird how it's a lot of guys that don't really make sense for Pitino (Kriisa, Pope, for example).

Really hope we land Smith so we don't need to bother figuring out how Kadary fits for four months. lol
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Agreed. Lefty will not average more than 5mpg and Glover I’d be shocked if he averages more than 10-12 mpg. They will not be part of the 8-9 man rotation that sees regular, steady, consistent minutes.
 
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