WalterMatthau
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The St. John's Redmen should NEVER play a regular season game at Barclays ever again.
DePaul (UBS), Tue., Feb. 6, 6:30p, FS-1
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Not to mention, we've only played two games (Marquette and DePaul) which could've or would've been campus games. UConn has been at MSG since '91. All of our other games were on the road, so not exactly a sound argument per Mullins Revenge, unless he sensed we may have beaten Marquette at the band box (which is plausible).
We also beat Providence and Villanova at MSG. Both had perfectly fine-to-good attendance.
All HOME games should be at Carnesecca or MSG. At least four of those conference games should be played at the former. End of story.
SJUDave
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That’s not breaking news. That’s like saying the sky is blue.
I was one of them. I thought, pre-Pitino, that the situation might be forced on us by MSG, one day (I'm also of the mindset that MSG is an impediment to winning for us, right now, but that's for another thread).
I thought, if that happened, UBS would work as our "one-and-only" home court. Curtain off the entire upper bowl (which they've partially done for these games), and do something about the ridiculous parking fees for season ticket holders (I don't know what), and you'd have a home court, in a great location for most people (since Queens and Long Island make up most of the fanbase). You're also dealing with only one pro team rather than two, so more flexibility with scheduling (I hate all the noon starts, but that's just me).
However, it would probably take 2 or 3 years to build up that new home court advantage, and now that we've had a 2-game tease that didn't go well (crowd-wise), the reputation made proceed the place, for the fans, anyway.
It has to be Hofstra and it has to be a part of the season ticket package.
I like the idea of one big game a year at Arthur Ashe.
Full disclosure, as I mentioned to MM52 last night at the Amex Lounge (mjmaherjr had stepped away), I knew we had a game last night but it wasn’t until about 2 in the afternoon who we were playing. I did know Bobbleheads were being give. Out because my buddy wanted to get there early to get one nut didn‘t know it was a Rick Pitino Bobblehead so you can see my mind has not been on the team lately.
Here are some random thoughts on the game itself and other things related to it:
1. Someone posted on this thread that the attendance was 6,005. In the Pitino Fox Sports interview they mentioned that Bobbleheads were being given to the first 4,000 fans. At halftime there were at lest two tables full of Bobbleheads between the Amex Club and Section 103. I told someone I would take the under if 4,000 was the mark. They might have sold 6,005 tickets but 6,005 sure as hell didn’t show up.
2. Pitino had a game plan and I feel he knew in the first half barring injury or foul trouble, who he was going to bring in and in what order. I doubt either Dunlap or Wilcher are in the doghouse, he just had other plans for guys to make earlier appearance. With Rick it depends on matchups, pairings and who is going well.
3. The lack of love for UBS as a venue is 100% unwarranted. It is a beautiful arena with great sightlines for basketball. That being said, this game should have been played at CA. Several of us Long Islanders did want games there and me personally I would not mind having a game or two there a season, but not conference games.
St. John’s fans are creatures of habit with a habit of looking to find the negative in anything and will just not warm up to Barclays or UBS. And that’s despite Barclays having numerous public transportation options (even more in closer proximity than MSG). Parking at MSG is probably on par with parking at UBS but the number of people who drive to MSG is small in comparison to how many would drive to UBS. LIRR does throw in extra trains at large events (just like NYC Transit after Yankee, Met games) and but a St. John’s game doesn’t qualify.
I heard from a reliable source there will be no more conference games and possibly no more games period, there in the near future.
Here are some random thoughts on the game itself and other things related to it:
1. Someone posted on this thread that the attendance was 6,005. In the Pitino Fox Sports interview they mentioned that Bobbleheads were being given to the first 4,000 fans. At halftime there were at lest two tables full of Bobbleheads between the Amex Club and Section 103. I told someone I would take the under if 4,000 was the mark. They might have sold 6,005 tickets but 6,005 sure as hell didn’t show up.
2. Pitino had a game plan and I feel he knew in the first half barring injury or foul trouble, who he was going to bring in and in what order. I doubt either Dunlap or Wilcher are in the doghouse, he just had other plans for guys to make earlier appearance. With Rick it depends on matchups, pairings and who is going well.
3. The lack of love for UBS as a venue is 100% unwarranted. It is a beautiful arena with great sightlines for basketball. That being said, this game should have been played at CA. Several of us Long Islanders did want games there and me personally I would not mind having a game or two there a season, but not conference games.
St. John’s fans are creatures of habit with a habit of looking to find the negative in anything and will just not warm up to Barclays or UBS. And that’s despite Barclays having numerous public transportation options (even more in closer proximity than MSG). Parking at MSG is probably on par with parking at UBS but the number of people who drive to MSG is small in comparison to how many would drive to UBS. LIRR does throw in extra trains at large events (just like NYC Transit after Yankee, Met games) and but a St. John’s game doesn’t qualify.
I heard from a reliable source there will be no more conference games and possibly no more games period, there in the near future.
Why? I think that would be at best, the same logistical problem with fans getting there as UBS is. Only exception is you have the No.7 train but you still have to get to it. Parking prices and LIRR schedule would be the same and in this case you only have one branch that goes there directly instead of three like UBS.
I think Ashe is more about the TV viewers than in-person attendees.
If St. John's can make it an annual event where we play a blue blood, I think it can be a huge TV rating hit. Duke, UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, etc.
carmineabbatiello
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Attendance will be Much better than yesterday for Seton Hall.
RedmanMike
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I went to the Kansas game two years ago, and I thought UBS was a very nice arena. Personally, I'd play Hofstra there every year and one more decent non-conference game. Unless we are really good, we'll probably never get a true home court vibe at UBS, but it's still a good venue that is very convenient to a large portion of the fan base... All other games at CA and MSG. No more Barclays.
It’s a really interesting venue and a lot of us are coming from the city. We also have a lot of Mets fans too so the commute is less of an obstacle mentally for those who have done dozens of times.
It would definitely be big for TV but I also think the novelty and the top team we would be playing here allow for pretty much a sellout.
carmineabbatiello
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Shouldn't the #1 ranked best player on the team, and best 3 point shooter, face less criticism about shot selection and everything else? Shouldn't the fanbase be so thankful to have him that they're happy with whatever he's doing out there and reserve the criticism for players #3 through #9 and the venues we play in?