Connecticut (MSG), Sat., Feb. 3, 12 NOON, FOX

Holmes much > Key, but getting him harder I suspect
I’m no BB Scout but., I went to one of our local College BB games last Wednesday . University ofSCarolina - Beaufort .
They have a 6’9” freshman Center , Marcus Overstreet who in his last 2 games , has scored36 and 33 points .

He’s talk and long , not bulky but , about 220 lbs. He could put on some muscle . He’s left handed and he uses it like a surgeon .
He prepped a year but , is from Chicago . Whitney Young high school . Which I think plays in a top Chicago league .

He’s very athletic, quick and is unstoppable down low on the left side of the basket . Right handed post players can’t get to his shot as they can’t teach across themselves and get to his left hand .
I have no idea what his recruiting status was last year but , to me he looks like a D1 player . Not the D2 he’s currently playing in .
It’s surprising DePaul or other Chicago schools weren’t all over him . I have no idea about his grades , etc but , to me he looks like a Diamond in the rough player .

He has more offensive game than Elijifor and is very quick and runs the Court well

Perhaps those more involved in Recruiting and Scouting could pas his name on to our Staff ?

As I say , to me he has Game .
 
Rick Pitino in introduction press conference……

”St. John’s will be back and it’s going to happen fast, not years but months”

Rick Pitino in presser after UConn loss…..

“We are just a poor team, and it’s going to take time “.

UConn being number one or not……. St. John’s played a lousy second half. Nova played UConn to within a point with Karaban and Clihan. The Hall beat UConn by 15. PC just gave them a good game at UConn. This team just does not do things well. When I hear Pitino saying “we have a 6’5 power forward etc. as an excuse, what’s with that? He brought these players in and had no interest in some holdovers and one particular recruit in Yaxel for a reason of a culture change? I don’t like what I’m hearing. Not everyone on the team contributed to a poor culture. Omar Stanley for instance was a great team mate and hard worker. Could we have used him?
 
The whole idea that anyone in the media bought for a $econd that game was going to not be played in the Garden i$ just pure unadulterated comical. I get fan$, etc. maybe buying in for a time, but just a cla$$ic example of Pitino being Pitino and the$e $o called expert$ $alivating becau$e they don’t have to figure out for them$elve$ what they are going to write about today.
 
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I’m no BB Scout but., I went to one of our local College BB games last Wednesday . University ofSCarolina - Beaufort .
They have a 6’9” freshman Center , Marcus Overstreet who in his last 2 games , has scored36 and 33 points .

He’s talk and long , not bulky but , about 220 lbs. He could put on some muscle . He’s left handed and he uses it like a surgeon .
He prepped a year but , is from Chicago . Whitney Young high school . Which I think plays in a top Chicago league .

He’s very athletic, quick and is unstoppable down low on the left side of the basket . Right handed post players can’t get to his shot as they can’t teach across themselves and get to his left hand .
I have no idea what his recruiting status was last year but , to me he looks like a D1 player . Not the D2 he’s currently playing in .
It’s surprising DePaul or other Chicago schools weren’t all over him . I have no idea about his grades , etc but , to me he looks like a Diamond in the rough player .

He has more offensive game than Elijifor and is very quick and runs the Court well

Perhaps those more involved in Recruiting and Scouting could pas his name on to our Staff ?

As I say , to me he has Game .
Accounting major and likes to play chess, so I'm guessing grades weren't the problem. Sometimes kids get overlooked. Portal makes it easier for a D-2 kid with nice numbers to make the jump if that's what he desires.
 
Accounting major and likes to play chess, so I'm guessing grades weren't the problem. Sometimes kids get overlooked. Portal makes it easier for a D-2 kid with nice numbers to make the jump if that's what he desires.
Who should his info be passed on to? One of the guys here , like BOE or The Whopper ? Maybe Dinkins as he follows SCarolina sports ?

Marcus Overstreet .
 
I've seen written here that this year's split was 60/40 St. John's fans.

I was at last year's game and thought it was even better for us, 65/35, I guess the difference is that this year they came in ranked #1 and this game was close to a sellout while last year's game was not. Neither year did their fans seem as loud as they have in years gone by (that's a good thing).

Figured this year with us having Rick Pitino and not CMA, we would have at least matched last year's %'s.

I know it is hard to guess exactly what the breakdown is, but I remember last year feeling really happy not being outnumbered.
 
Accounting major and likes to play chess, so I'm guessing grades weren't the problem. Sometimes kids get overlooked. Portal makes it easier for a D-2 kid with nice numbers to make the jump if that's what he desires.
1140 Sat IN Prep year , 3.7 GPA . Accounting Major at USC Beaufort . Scored 36 and 33 last week and had 25 rebounds in 4 OT game .
Marcus Overstreet .Played at Whitney Young HS in Chicago . Prepped in Florida .

I wouldn’t say he’s Walter Berry , nobody is but , this kid is quick and lefty like The Truth . Playing at D2 school . He’s a freshman this year .
6’9” and 220 lbs . He could add muscle easily but , he so quick . Grabs every rebound , good hands .
 
what do you mean by this?
Seen my share of pressers. Having a hard time recalling a coach throwing his players under the bus this egregiously. 1) These players are looking to play pro or transfer to a bigger Nil next year. They, their parents and handlers are probably not enamored with the coach telling the world they can't shoot or defend and are small, slow and unathletic. Will affect post season stay or go decisions. 2) Doing Daniss no favors so blatantly having a favored son/teachers pet. Telling the world you have one good player, one sometimes good player and all else suck is wrong. Noway that won't foment resentment, jealousy and damage team chemistry. 3) Don't care what he says about college free agency in the pay to play Era or the frustration of building a program in it.
 
Seen my share of pressers. Having a hard time recalling a coach throwing his players under the bus this egregiously. 1) These players are looking to play pro or transfer to a bigger Nil next year. They, their parents and handlers are probably not enamored with the coach telling the world they can't shoot or defend and are small, slow and unathletic. Will affect post season stay or go decisions. 2) Doing Daniss no favors so blatantly having a favored son/teachers pet. Telling the world you have one good player, one sometimes good player and all else suck is wrong. Noway that won't foment resentment, jealousy and damage team chemistry. 3) Don't care what he says about college free agency in the pay to play Era or the frustration of building a program in it.
How did Pitino manage his Players at Kentucky and Louisville ?

Kid Gloves ? Or Iron Fist ?

Of course , we know this generation of players and their Parents grew up in the “ every one gets a Trophy !”

Currently These players are all getting paid like it’s a Job , with a College Education thrown in, if you want it . Many don’t .

Once you take money to play , your immunity from Critical feed back vanishes . That’s how it’s done in the Business World .
If you don’t meet standards you need to step it up or , out you go .

Why should College BB be any different . This isn’t the Student Athlete days the NCAA wants you to believe still Exist . It doesn’t
 
How did Pitino manage his Players at Kentucky and Louisville ?

Kid Gloves ? Or Iron Fist ?

Of course , we know this generation of players and their Parents grew up in the “ every one gets a Trophy !”

Currently These players are all getting paid like it’s a Job , with a College Education thrown in, if you want it . Many don’t .

Once you take money to play , your immunity from Critical feed back vanishes . That’s how it’s done in the Business World .
If you don’t meet standards you need to step it up or , out you go .

Why should College BB be any different . This isn’t the Student Athlete days the NCAA wants you to believe still Exist . It doesn’t
The difference in those days is that they didn't have options to transfer freely.
 
I don’t get why the Colleges don’t require the Players they are paying to sign binding contracts

I’m sure the answer is that the NCAA won’t allow it . The NCAA is like the UN . Useless .
Binding contracts to make them what legally what....
 
I don’t get why the Colleges don’t require the Players they are paying to sign binding contracts

I’m sure the answer is that the NCAA won’t allow it . The NCAA is like the UN . Useless .
I hate this NIL stuff and pretty sure it will end up ruining my love of college hoops. The thing is now even basically it was 1 year deals. I’m far from a lawyer don’t even know if it’s feasible but at some point if they end up employees of the school maybe you can go to 2 year deals with a non compete clause where the player is guaranteed 2 years pay for working ( playing ) but they can’t leave after the first year but they also have the option to sign 1 year deals ?
 
I hate this NIL stuff and pretty sure it will end up ruining my love of college hoops. The thing is now even basically it was 1 year deals. I’m far from a lawyer don’t even know if it’s feasible but at some point if they end up employees of the school maybe you can go to 2 year deals with a non compete clause where the player is guaranteed 2 years pay for working ( playing ) but they can’t leave after the first year but they also have the option to sign 1 year deals ?
The main issue with players compensation isn't them actually getting compensated, it's what you're talking about. If the NBA had guys only on one year deals, it would be impossible to follow and difficult to create "bonds" with players.

If players compensation was tied to deals that binded them with a school for a certain period of guaranteed time, it would be different but totally fine. Like, Wilcher is on a 2 year deal -- that's good for the fan to know, but also for the program, coach and overall stability of the sport.
 
I hate this NIL stuff and pretty sure it will end up ruining my love of college hoops. The thing is now even basically it was 1 year deals. I’m far from a lawyer don’t even know if it’s feasible but at some point if they end up employees of the school maybe you can go to 2 year deals with a non compete clause where the player is guaranteed 2 years pay for working ( playing ) but they can’t leave after the first year but they also have the option to sign 1 year deals ?
Was having a few beers with a tax lawyer friend months ago and while he is not a sports fan at all and knew nothing about NIL, he wondered how they were being paid for tax purposes. I haven’t the faintest idea, and I would assume it varies greatly, but thought it was a very interesting point.
 
I hate this NIL stuff and pretty sure it will end up ruining my love of college hoops. The thing is now even basically it was 1 year deals. I’m far from a lawyer don’t even know if it’s feasible but at some point if they end up employees of the school maybe you can go to 2 year deals with a non compete clause where the player is guaranteed 2 years pay for working ( playing ) but they can’t leave after the first year but they also have the option to sign 1 year deals ?
I think you hit the nail on the head Mike. Actually the players are employees of the school and their retention and scholarship should be purely based on performance on the court. If a player can bolt after one year for a sweeter financial deal, shouldn’t a coach be able to say to a player, you were “hired” to score 15ppg, you only scored 7ppg, you’ve just lost your scholarship as well as your NIL deal? Isn’t this where this entire NIL fiasco is heading????
 
I think you hit the nail on the head Mike. Actually the players are employees of the school and their retention and scholarship should be purely based on performance on the court. If a player can bolt after one year for a sweeter financial deal, shouldn’t a coach be able to say to a player, you were “hired” to score 15ppg, you only scored 7ppg, you’ve just lost your scholarship?
They're doing that now.
 
How did Pitino manage his Players at Kentucky and Louisville ?

Kid Gloves ? Or Iron Fist ?

Of course , we know this generation of players and their Parents grew up in the “ every one gets a Trophy !”

Currently These players are all getting paid like it’s a Job , with a College Education thrown in, if you want it . Many don’t .

Once you take money to play , your immunity from Critical feed back vanishes . That’s how it’s done in the Business World .
If you don’t meet standards you need to step it up or , out you go .

Why should College BB be any different . This isn’t the Student Athlete days the NCAA wants you to believe still Exist . It doesn’t
There's a big diff from then and now.

Now you can transfer whenever you want and there's nil also.

When he was at uk and ul that wasn't the case.
 
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