Yankees - 2018
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[quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.
[quote="usguard" post=295954]Why not trade him.?[/quote]
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.
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[quote="SJU85" post=295996][quote="SJU85" post=295995][quote="usguard" post=295954]Why not trade him.?[/quote]
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote][/quote]
Yankees got rid of some of those "good ones" to make room for Sanchez. John Ryan Murphy and Francisco Cervelli, to name two, are some of the guys having good years, and Cervelli has been an all-star (although he's no kid). I supported all those moves at the time, but I wonder if Cashman wants a do-over right now.
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote][/quote]
Yankees got rid of some of those "good ones" to make room for Sanchez. John Ryan Murphy and Francisco Cervelli, to name two, are some of the guys having good years, and Cervelli has been an all-star (although he's no kid). I supported all those moves at the time, but I wonder if Cashman wants a do-over right now.
[quote="SJU61982" post=295997]
Yankees got rid of some of those "good ones" to make room for Sanchez. John Ryan Murphy and Francisco Cervelli, to name two, are some of the guys having good years, and Cervelli has been an all-star (although he's no kid). I supported all those moves at the time, but I wonder if Cashman wants a do-over right now.[/quote]
I don't know if you can really say Cevelli was traded to make room for Sanchez as Sanchez didn't become a full time Yankee until July/August of 2016 while Cevelli was traded after the 2014 season in which he backed up Brian McCann. I was not happy to see him go as I liked him, but he was traded to make room for JR Murphy who became the back up to McCann and we got Justin Wilson for him. Wilson had a very good year after a slow start in his one year in pinstripes and was traded for Chad Green (an integral part of the bullpen the last two years) and Luis Cessa.
I wouldn't call Murphy "one of the better ones". He was traded as it was expected that Sanchez was going to ease into the job with McCann and they had Austin Romine as the 3rd catcher, but Sanchez had a horrible spring training and Romine got the back up job (of course Sanchez came up in the summer, got hot and took the starting job from McCann). Murphy was traded for Aaron Hicks and was horrible (while the expectations weren't high his stats were worst than Sanchez this year) with Minnesota that first year before being sent down to the minors. He spent the rest of that season and practically all of the following season (during which he was traded to Arizona) in the minors (and not because he was blocked by anyone, but because he was just that bad) before having a "resurgence" this year as Arizona's back-up catcher. Hicks on the other hand, after a very slow start his first season, came on strong that year, in his second year wound up supplanting Jacoby Ellsbury as the starting Center Fielder and is having a career year in Home Runs and RBIs this year.
Based on the results, I don't think Cashman is losing any sleep over trading either Cevelli or Murphy.
Yankees got rid of some of those "good ones" to make room for Sanchez. John Ryan Murphy and Francisco Cervelli, to name two, are some of the guys having good years, and Cervelli has been an all-star (although he's no kid). I supported all those moves at the time, but I wonder if Cashman wants a do-over right now.[/quote]
I don't know if you can really say Cevelli was traded to make room for Sanchez as Sanchez didn't become a full time Yankee until July/August of 2016 while Cevelli was traded after the 2014 season in which he backed up Brian McCann. I was not happy to see him go as I liked him, but he was traded to make room for JR Murphy who became the back up to McCann and we got Justin Wilson for him. Wilson had a very good year after a slow start in his one year in pinstripes and was traded for Chad Green (an integral part of the bullpen the last two years) and Luis Cessa.
I wouldn't call Murphy "one of the better ones". He was traded as it was expected that Sanchez was going to ease into the job with McCann and they had Austin Romine as the 3rd catcher, but Sanchez had a horrible spring training and Romine got the back up job (of course Sanchez came up in the summer, got hot and took the starting job from McCann). Murphy was traded for Aaron Hicks and was horrible (while the expectations weren't high his stats were worst than Sanchez this year) with Minnesota that first year before being sent down to the minors. He spent the rest of that season and practically all of the following season (during which he was traded to Arizona) in the minors (and not because he was blocked by anyone, but because he was just that bad) before having a "resurgence" this year as Arizona's back-up catcher. Hicks on the other hand, after a very slow start his first season, came on strong that year, in his second year wound up supplanting Jacoby Ellsbury as the starting Center Fielder and is having a career year in Home Runs and RBIs this year.
Based on the results, I don't think Cashman is losing any sleep over trading either Cevelli or Murphy.
redfan259999888
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[quote="SJU85" post=295941][quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.
redfan259999888
Active member
[quote="SJU85" post=295996][quote="usguard" post=295954]Why not trade him.?[/quote]
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296030][quote="SJU85" post=295996][quote="usguard" post=295954]Why not trade him.?[/quote]
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.[/quote]
You won't get an argument on that one for me. I am at that point with Bird who stunk last year (and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his first year and the injuries) and this year.
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.[/quote]
You won't get an argument on that one for me. I am at that point with Bird who stunk last year (and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his first year and the injuries) and this year.
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[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296028][quote="SJU85" post=295941][quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?
redfan259999888
Active member
[quote="SJU85" post=296033][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296030][quote="SJU85" post=295996][quote="usguard" post=295954]Why not trade him.?[/quote]
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.[/quote]
You won't get an argument on that one for me. I am at that point with Bird who stunk last year (and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his first year and the injuries) and this year.[/quote]
Leave Bird off the roster during the playoffs, Voit is rocking the ball. Gardner might be left off, we got Judge, Stanton, Hicks, and McCutchen, why do we need a 5th out fielder. I guess keep sanchez on the roster though it seens like all he's doing is striking out or hitting routine fly balls.
Because next season he will only be 26 and there is a chance at a bounce back year. A 26 year old catcher who in his previous 2 years before this hit a combined 53 homeruns with a BA over 280. Yes he has been atrocious this year on both sides of the plate but I believe he can do better defensively (no, he will never be a top notch receiver but he can be passable) and wold bank on him during much better offensively. I'd rather take a chance at 26 of that happening here than watching him turn it around elsewhere.
As ron s m says above, his trade value is at an all time low. What are you going to get for him? Who are you going to replace him with? Going with Austin Romine is probably the best bet now for the post season due to the current ineptitude of Sanchez. Romine is a nice backup to have but this might be his career season. J.T Realmuto would be a good get but he is definitely not coming cheap as he is just now going in to his arbitration years and does not become a free agent until after the 2021 season.. There is no one at the catcher position in the top levels of our minor league system right now. Actually, if you look around baseball as a whole, while there are some good ones, I think catching as a whole is not very good at the Major League level.[/quote]
Want to chalk it up to one bad year, ok fine, but if he sucks like this year, no excuses.[/quote]
You won't get an argument on that one for me. I am at that point with Bird who stunk last year (and I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his first year and the injuries) and this year.[/quote]
Leave Bird off the roster during the playoffs, Voit is rocking the ball. Gardner might be left off, we got Judge, Stanton, Hicks, and McCutchen, why do we need a 5th out fielder. I guess keep sanchez on the roster though it seens like all he's doing is striking out or hitting routine fly balls.
ronm
Well-known member
I'd be shocked if Bird is on the post season roster. Except for one pitch hitting at bat, he has not played for weeks. Sanchez will be on the roster, but I sure hope he is on the bench for the play in game. For that matter, I hope he is on the bench for the entire post season.
redfan259999888
Active member
[quote="SJU85" post=296036][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296028][quote="SJU85" post=295941][quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296043][quote="SJU85" post=296036][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296028][quote="SJU85" post=295941][quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.[/quote]
I didn't say that Cashman was telling Boone to bring in Cole first however if you don't think Cashman has a say on the roster composition and the makeup of the line-up you're kidding yourself. That is the way these teams that are going with more analytics are run. The old school (no pun intended) way of going on gut feelings, hunches and the manager having total control on the day to day with the club is few and far between. Boone knew that going in as do must new "younger" managers otherwise they wouldn't have gotten hired.
Control is one of (if not the main one) reasons that Girardi isn't back. The Front Office did not have the control over him and the lineups that they wanted (they also didn't think his style was going to work with the younger players over a long term and a host of other things but No. 1 was control. For proof all you have to do is go back and look at some of the comments made about control.
While I don't believe everything I see on TV or in the movies even if they are "based" on true stories (based just means that, doesn't mean it tells the story truthfully), if you haven't seen it, catch the movie "Moneyball" or read the book. It gives you a good idea on what is going on now in terms of how involved in the day to day the front offices are. Again there are exceptions and degrees but the role and rules a Manager goes by now is a lot different than in the past.
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.[/quote]
I didn't say that Cashman was telling Boone to bring in Cole first however if you don't think Cashman has a say on the roster composition and the makeup of the line-up you're kidding yourself. That is the way these teams that are going with more analytics are run. The old school (no pun intended) way of going on gut feelings, hunches and the manager having total control on the day to day with the club is few and far between. Boone knew that going in as do must new "younger" managers otherwise they wouldn't have gotten hired.
Control is one of (if not the main one) reasons that Girardi isn't back. The Front Office did not have the control over him and the lineups that they wanted (they also didn't think his style was going to work with the younger players over a long term and a host of other things but No. 1 was control. For proof all you have to do is go back and look at some of the comments made about control.
While I don't believe everything I see on TV or in the movies even if they are "based" on true stories (based just means that, doesn't mean it tells the story truthfully), if you haven't seen it, catch the movie "Moneyball" or read the book. It gives you a good idea on what is going on now in terms of how involved in the day to day the front offices are. Again there are exceptions and degrees but the role and rules a Manager goes by now is a lot different than in the past.
[quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
Cashman is running this team way more than should be allowed. That’s why he wanted Girardi out and a guy with zero managerial experience; so he could control him.
Cashman is running this team way more than should be allowed. That’s why he wanted Girardi out and a guy with zero managerial experience; so he could control him.
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[quote="SJU85" post=296061][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296043][quote="SJU85" post=296036][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296028][quote="SJU85" post=295941][quote="ron s m" post=295796]Cashman does not tell Boone what pitchers to put in the game. In his defense, there have been some bad performances from the bullpen lately. He can't use the same guys every night.[/quote]
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.[/quote]
I didn't say that Cashman was telling Boone to bring in Cole first however if you don't think Cashman has a say on the roster composition and the makeup of the line-up you're kidding yourself. That is the way these teams that are going with more analytics are run. The old school (no pun intended) way of going on gut feelings, hunches and the manager having total control on the day to day with the club is few and far between. Boone knew that going in as do must new "younger" managers otherwise they wouldn't have gotten hired.
Control is one of (if not the main one) reasons that Girardi isn't back. The Front Office did not have the control over him and the lineups that they wanted (they also didn't think his style was going to work with the younger players over a long term and a host of other things but No. 1 was control. For proof all you have to do is go back and look at some of the comments made about control.
While I don't believe everything I see on TV or in the movies even if they are "based" on true stories (based just means that, doesn't mean it tells the story truthfully), if you haven't seen it, catch the movie "Moneyball" or read the book. It gives you a good idea on what is going on now in terms of how involved in the day to day the front offices are. Again there are exceptions and degrees but the role and rules a Manager goes by now is a lot different than in the past.[/quote]
Well if cashman know how the team should be run and manage then he should be the manager. You're the manager, and know Cole should never go in, but because of Cashman, you have to put in Cole. Then when and not if Cole gets lit up, you're the one that looks like a fool, while Cashman looks all pretty in his suit.
That's a no win situation to me, I'd rather stay on t.v. and never manage.
To paraphrase the late George Steinbrenner, “I’ve seen enough of this A.J. Cole experiment!”
Actually I don’t understand why Boone keeps throwing him in close games. He had a nice run when they first picked him up but he has been horrible for months.
As for Sanchez, enough, it’s just not going to happen this year. Put Romine as the starter with Sanchez as the back-up until you are done. Work with Sanchez over the winter (including mentally) and try again next year.[/quote]
Maybe it's because Boone is a retard.
Cole is the first one in after Happ, why???? Cessa after Cole allowed one run in the next 3. So why is Cole the first one in?
Cole, now has a 9.60 ERA in his last 14 appearances, totaling 15 innings.
Please bring back Girardi, atleast he's have the brains to know who to not put in, and don't give me that rookie manager bs. I never played in little league, HS and coll. I'd do a better job then this idiot.[/quote]
Girardi has his faults too. His circle of trust would be so small sometime he'd bring guys in even when he could have gone with someone else due to the size of the lead. And while I don't get Boone (or Cashman) hitting Torres 9th, I didn't get Girardi hitting Ellsbury 3rd either.
Torre would kept giving us Scott Proctor (used him up) and what was this thing for Sergio Mitre?[/quote]
Cashman is telling Boone how to manage and who to put in? He's telling Boone that Coles comes from the pen first?
If that's the case then I tell Cashman that i'll quit and you could manage the team your damn self.
I'm not an ass kisser, and won't look bad for anyone including my boss. I's rather be fired then look like a clueless idiot that know wtf he's doing.[/quote]
I didn't say that Cashman was telling Boone to bring in Cole first however if you don't think Cashman has a say on the roster composition and the makeup of the line-up you're kidding yourself. That is the way these teams that are going with more analytics are run. The old school (no pun intended) way of going on gut feelings, hunches and the manager having total control on the day to day with the club is few and far between. Boone knew that going in as do must new "younger" managers otherwise they wouldn't have gotten hired.
Control is one of (if not the main one) reasons that Girardi isn't back. The Front Office did not have the control over him and the lineups that they wanted (they also didn't think his style was going to work with the younger players over a long term and a host of other things but No. 1 was control. For proof all you have to do is go back and look at some of the comments made about control.
While I don't believe everything I see on TV or in the movies even if they are "based" on true stories (based just means that, doesn't mean it tells the story truthfully), if you haven't seen it, catch the movie "Moneyball" or read the book. It gives you a good idea on what is going on now in terms of how involved in the day to day the front offices are. Again there are exceptions and degrees but the role and rules a Manager goes by now is a lot different than in the past.[/quote]
Well if cashman know how the team should be run and manage then he should be the manager. You're the manager, and know Cole should never go in, but because of Cashman, you have to put in Cole. Then when and not if Cole gets lit up, you're the one that looks like a fool, while Cashman looks all pretty in his suit.
That's a no win situation to me, I'd rather stay on t.v. and never manage.
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=296117]
Well if cashman know how the team should be run and manage then he should be the manager. You're the manager, and know Cole should never go in, but because of Cashman, you have to put in Cole. Then when and not if Cole gets lit up, you're the one that looks like a fool, while Cashman looks all pretty in his suit.
That's a no win situation to me, I'd rather stay on t.v. and never manage.[/quote]
Blame Cashman for keeping him on the roster as a low cost long/mop up man over others at the backend of the bullpen who were optioned, released and resigned to the minors or dumped. Blame Boone for continually using him in high leverage situations.
Well if cashman know how the team should be run and manage then he should be the manager. You're the manager, and know Cole should never go in, but because of Cashman, you have to put in Cole. Then when and not if Cole gets lit up, you're the one that looks like a fool, while Cashman looks all pretty in his suit.
That's a no win situation to me, I'd rather stay on t.v. and never manage.[/quote]
Blame Cashman for keeping him on the roster as a low cost long/mop up man over others at the backend of the bullpen who were optioned, released and resigned to the minors or dumped. Blame Boone for continually using him in high leverage situations.