What happened to Simon

[quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=319782][quote="old-school Redmen" post=319778]

How many pnts does he blow a game missing bunny, 8?
Yeah he could be out starting center since we dont have a center to begin with.
I say next year it's bench or good bye.

Counter me if you want but that's how i feel.[/quote]

I'm not going to counter how you feel. But I think we need him next season. Unfortunately for him and the team, we need him at PF. And he's not going to go for that.

Keita will never give us anything. And if you notice, people who've seen practice tell us that they are impressed with Wright, but there's never a peep about Caraher. The staff somehow can't find any real minutes for Roberts or Earlington. Unless Precious comes aboard, I'm not sure who starts over Simon.

Starters right now are Mack, Wright, Figgy, Steere, and ? So in my mind that ? needs to be Simon.[/quote]

The fact that Shamorie and Heron are out is crazy. Dude's are not getting drafted.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on
 
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Simon could be a monster here if he understood his abilities. That's what makes this sonfirstrsting. See my comments on Dom Pointer needing to play 4/5 for three years prior to his breakout senior year.

I hate players standing flat-footed on the perimeter, but a guy who can't shoot or dribble out there?! Wtf!!!! How many gorgeous Ponds drive and kicks go to Simon completely wasted? Why is he giving a false target to Ponds when he can't do anything with it? It's such a lazy mindset and it kills your team. Neither Simon or Pointer move an inch when the ball is shot. Postell, who could shoot, crashed glass from the perimeter with reckless abandon.
 
[quote="Johnnie Drama" post=319785]

The fact that Shamorie and Heron are out is crazy. Dude's are not getting drafted.[/quote]

Unfortunately for us and potentially them, it's not even remotely close to the craziest decisions kids have made regarding eligibility.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=319790][quote="Johnnie Drama" post=319785]

The fact that Shamorie and Heron are out is crazy. Dude's are not getting drafted.[/quote]

Unfortunately for us and potentially them, it's not even remotely close to the craziest decisions kids have made regarding eligibility.[/quote]

If being a 6-foot guard is the biggest obstacle Ponds has to overcome to get drafted, then he might as well go after this year.

That problem is still going to be there after next year, and he's clearly worked on everything else.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."
 
[quote="L J S A" post=319759]Anyone clamoring for Simon to be on the bench might as well just say "I hope he transfers without penalty for his last season," because they are essentially the same thing. There are a ton of Cali schools that will let him start at guard.

Not sure where he fits in next season with Steere on board, but I think Simon should be our starting center for rest of year and staff should tell him not to venture beyond 8 feet in the half court game.[/quote]

If he does not accept a combo forward role then transferring would be best. I'll take my chances on Williams-Wright-Figueroa-Trimble-Caraher-Heron.

I can't see how a soph Williams or a junior Wright would be any worse.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man
 
[quote="L J S A" post=319782][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=319778]

How many pnts does he blow a game missing bunny, 8?
Yeah he could be out starting center since we dont have a center to begin with.
I say next year it's bench or good bye.

Counter me if you want but that's how i feel.[/quote]

I'm not going to counter how you feel. But I think we need him next season. Unfortunately for him and the team, we need him at PF. And he's not going to go for that.

Keita will never give us anything. And if you notice, people who've seen practice tell us that they are impressed with Wright, but there's never a peep about Caraher. The staff somehow can't find any real minutes for Roberts or Earlington. Unless Precious comes aboard, I'm not sure who starts over Simon.

Starters right now are Mack, Wright, Figgy, Steere, and ? So in my mind that ? needs to be Simon.[/quote]

I thought the staff said kota said kota was a stud last year in practice, guess that was all bs hype huh?
 
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When Simon has his feet set, and takes a lot of time he can hit a jumper at about 30 percent. Just can’t shoot from the outside. Finds himself open in the corner way too often. There needs to be a different player set up for that corner jumper. Simon needs to put up 1000 jumpers a day this summer. Ponds should definitely not leave for the draft. Needs another year to even come close to making it in the league.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=319782][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=319778]

How many pnts does he blow a game missing bunny, 8?
Yeah he could be out starting center since we dont have a center to begin with.
I say next year it's bench or good bye.

Counter me if you want but that's how i feel.[/quote]

I'm not going to counter how you feel. But I think we need him next season. Unfortunately for him and the team, we need him at PF. And he's not going to go for that.

Keita will never give us anything. And if you notice, people who've seen practice tell us that they are impressed with Wright, but there's never a peep about Caraher. The staff somehow can't find any real minutes for Roberts or Earlington. Unless Precious comes aboard, I'm not sure who starts over Simon.

Starters right now are Mack, Wright, Figgy, Steere, and ? So in my mind that ? needs to be Simon.[/quote]
Smart man
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=319803][quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man[/quote]
Enjoy your spirit & posts Jack. Telling you to “shut up” is just another inane comment, but consistent with over the top nonsense. Ignore it.
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=319812][quote="Jack Williams" post=319803][quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man[/quote]
Enjoy your spirit & posts Jack. Telling you to “shut up” is just another inane comment, but consistent with over the top nonsense. Ignore it.[/quote]

Are you a woman?
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319816][quote="Paultzman" post=319812][quote="Jack Williams" post=319803][quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man[/quote]
Enjoy your spirit & posts Jack. Telling you to “shut up” is just another inane comment, but consistent with over the top nonsense. Ignore it.[/quote]

Are you a woman?[/quote]
I rest my case
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

The actual back and forth went like this: King: "Coach, why can't I shoot threes?" Jarvis: "Because I like driving my Mercedes". That is what I remember, and it sure sounds more like Jarvis.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=319817][quote="Marillac" post=319816][quote="Paultzman" post=319812][quote="Jack Williams" post=319803][quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man[/quote]
Enjoy your spirit & posts Jack. Telling you to “shut up” is just another inane comment, but consistent with over the top nonsense. Ignore it.[/quote]

Are you a woman?[/quote]
I rest my case[/quote]

You rest? lol you live on here.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=319822][quote="Paultzman" post=319817][quote="Marillac" post=319816][quote="Paultzman" post=319812][quote="Jack Williams" post=319803][quote="Marillac" post=319799][quote="Jack Williams" post=319786][quote="Marillac" post=319783][quote="Tommy O 54" post=319666]I am kind of miffed at the season he's having, seems to have lost all his confidence.[/quote]

He's an unskilled athlete that was allowed to do whatever he wanted for an awful team lag year. Guys like that will always out up great stats. When more talent arrived he has refused to accept his obvious role of PF. You never see players like that at Nova.

One of three things will happen: he transfers, he continues to not acknowledge his strengths and weaknesses which leads to Mullin firing, or he and/or get him to accept a combo forward role.[/quote]

Lol. I can’t believe this post exists. If mullin gets fired it’s because of a whole lot more than ONE player not buying into his role. The idea that it is Justin Simon’s fault if Mullin gets fired is ridiculous

And-

Wait never mind you’re just being a goofball. Carry on[/quote]

Have you ever played or coached, Jack? Didn't think so. Sit down and shut up.

I'm not saying it's Simon's fault if Mullin gets fired. I'm saying he can't win consistently relying on such an unskilled player in a perimeter role. Mullin is the coach at the end of the day...not Simon.
There is a series "The Season" on espn that follows Jarvis and the 2002-2003 team that is on YouTube. I recommend you watch it. During one postgame loss Jarvis said only Hatten, Shaw, and Emanuel were allowed to shoot threes the rest of the season as asked if anyone felt differently. Eric King said he should shoot threes and Jarvis said "I don't. Not if we want to win."[/quote]

First of all I have played ball, my whole life just not in college. And even if I didn’t, what’s the point of mentioning that?

Does someone not playing or coaching make them unable to comment on a team or a player or a coach?

Am I not allowed to quote and respond to a boneheaded post where you say “he can continue to not acknowledge his strength and weaknesses which leads to mullin’s firing” ??

Love to you see you back track and try to clumsily explain your horribly worded original post.

Not gonna watch whatever video you are referring, but cool story man[/quote]
Enjoy your spirit & posts Jack. Telling you to “shut up” is just another inane comment, but consistent with over the top nonsense. Ignore it.[/quote]

Are you a woman?[/quote]
I rest my case[/quote]

You rest? lol you live on here.[/quote]
Zzzz
 
Paul Massell wrote: What impressed me most about Simon last season was that he had these limitations but played within them and put up amazing numbers. This season his overall numbers are still impressive but his decision making and confidence are way down. He is not playing that controlled game that amazing athletic players normally lack but he had last season. In my opinion he was by far the most important player on the team last season. This season he does a lot of good things but the lack of finishing is a killer and hesitating every time he gets the ball outside of 10 feet is counter productive to his style of play.

Paul's post says it all with respect to Justin Simon.
Too many posters on this site deal in absolutes. Someone is either the BE POY and better than anyone else or the worst player in BE history. Anyone who can't see that last year's Justin was a super valuable player and this year's Justin is struggling just isn't watching the games. Aside from the difference in 3 pt fg% and ft % he is clearly hesitating at this point to take any outside shot which he didn't do last year. This is totally a confidence issue and think staff needs to help him here - put him in positions he can succeed. I hope Justin comes back next year because he is a great kid and helps us in so many ways other than shooting, but if he reads this board don't see why he'd even consider returning. Duke kicked our butt today for a few reasons - Clark couldn't stay on the floor, Shamorie came up small and Zion was too much for us. But remember this is same team that pulled out huge road win against Creighton and we can do it again with Marquette - both are good matchups for us. We have 9 games left and need to go 6-3 - still doable and we need all of our guys playing well so let's support them.
 
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