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[quote="fordham96" post=346063][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346059][quote="fordham96" post=346057][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346053][quote="Moose" post=346051]If he transfers he will only get to play 1 year. He will have exhausted eligibility after his 1st playing year at another school.[/quote]
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.
[quote="fordham96" post=346063][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346059][quote="fordham96" post=346057][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346053][quote="Moose" post=346051]If he transfers he will only get to play 1 year. He will have exhausted eligibility after his 1st playing year at another school.[/quote]
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote] I don’t think he played any games during 2nd semester.
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote] I don’t think he played any games during 2nd semester.
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=346068][quote="fordham96" post=346063][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346059][quote="fordham96" post=346057][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346053][quote="Moose" post=346051]If he transfers he will only get to play 1 year. He will have exhausted eligibility after his 1st playing year at another school.[/quote]
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.[/quote]
Fordham, you are correct. Once they enroll, the five year clock starts. However, that would mean if LJ transferred and sat out a year, he could actually play a year and a half. This is not good for him, because he would be done at the end of the first semester in his second year. That makes him ineligible for the conference schedule and tournament play.
That said, given that he left NMSU as a freshmen (before playing) specifically because his coach bailed, I could see him getting a waiver. Especially given the recent rule change.
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You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.[/quote]
Fordham, you are correct. Once they enroll, the five year clock starts. However, that would mean if LJ transferred and sat out a year, he could actually play a year and a half. This is not good for him, because he would be done at the end of the first semester in his second year. That makes him ineligible for the conference schedule and tournament play.
That said, given that he left NMSU as a freshmen (before playing) specifically because his coach bailed, I could see him getting a waiver. Especially given the recent rule change.
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rawdognyc
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It just doesn't make sense for him to sit at this point. He has a chance to have a "career year" at age 21 and parlay that into possible draft position. CMAs style of play would play to all his strengths. It's actually a no brainer. Whoever his advisor is, is a moron. However like someone else stated, I want kids that want to be here.
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Thing is, high profile programs want him
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation
redfan259999888
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=346082]Thing is, high profile programs want him
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation[/quote]
If he decides to go to ku and that happens, he can only blame himself.
If he goes, yes it will hurt the team, he's a good talent, but if he goes, and turns out a bench player.
He'll hurt himself alot more then SJU.
Could cost him getting picked in the draft.
He might be taking advice from his handlers, which is sad.
At 21 he's a grown man, why you need handlers handling what you do at 21.
Time to be your own man, this is one of your biggest decisions in your life, and you're gonna have someone else dictate it? Sad if you ask me.
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation[/quote]
If he decides to go to ku and that happens, he can only blame himself.
If he goes, yes it will hurt the team, he's a good talent, but if he goes, and turns out a bench player.
He'll hurt himself alot more then SJU.
Could cost him getting picked in the draft.
He might be taking advice from his handlers, which is sad.
At 21 he's a grown man, why you need handlers handling what you do at 21.
Time to be your own man, this is one of your biggest decisions in your life, and you're gonna have someone else dictate it? Sad if you ask me.
I hope for Figgy’s sake he realizes that he’d be best off—to have a better chance of a pro career—if he plays for CMA at St. John’s in 2019-20.
Funny thing is, I bet Mike Anderson and ‘his nephew’ would be able to replace Figgy with a player with similar capabilities that might even play for SJU for more than 1 year.
I hope Figgy clears his head and wakes up.
Funny thing is, I bet Mike Anderson and ‘his nephew’ would be able to replace Figgy with a player with similar capabilities that might even play for SJU for more than 1 year.
I hope Figgy clears his head and wakes up.
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[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=346084][quote="Beast of the East" post=346082]Thing is, high profile programs want him
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation[/quote]
If he decides to go to ku and that happens, he can only blame himself.
If he goes, yes it will hurt the team, he's a good talent, but if he goes, and turns out a bench player.
He'll hurt himself alot more then SJU.
Could cost him getting picked in the draft.
He might be taking advice from his handlers, which is sad.
At 21 he's a grown man, why you need handlers handling what you do at 21.
Time to be your own man, this is one of your biggest decisions in your life, and you're gonna have someone else dictate it? Sad if you ask me.[/quote]
I don’t think Figgy will be a draft level player. Good college player but too awkward a shot and at 6’6 would need a much better handle. If he wants out we don’t want him because it will hurt team chemistry. He would be another Matt player attending 4 different schools thinking he’s better than he is. We want team players.
Thing is, he sits a year and a Kansas could recruit over him in the interim, making him a bench player in rotation[/quote]
If he decides to go to ku and that happens, he can only blame himself.
If he goes, yes it will hurt the team, he's a good talent, but if he goes, and turns out a bench player.
He'll hurt himself alot more then SJU.
Could cost him getting picked in the draft.
He might be taking advice from his handlers, which is sad.
At 21 he's a grown man, why you need handlers handling what you do at 21.
Time to be your own man, this is one of your biggest decisions in your life, and you're gonna have someone else dictate it? Sad if you ask me.[/quote]
I don’t think Figgy will be a draft level player. Good college player but too awkward a shot and at 6’6 would need a much better handle. If he wants out we don’t want him because it will hurt team chemistry. He would be another Matt player attending 4 different schools thinking he’s better than he is. We want team players.
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What’s even crazier to me is that presumably he’s on track to graduate next year. That means he could still play wherever he wants the year after next, regardless of what option he chooses.
Why not stay at SJU for another year? If he plays well, maybe he leaves for the NBA or Europe a year early. If the situation at SJU does not work out, he could then transfer and enjoy immediate eligibility as a grad student. Unless I’m missing something, if he transfers now, he doesn’t get to play next year.
Put another way, he has nothing to lose by staying at St. John’s and everything to gain. Who the heck is advising this kid?
Why not stay at SJU for another year? If he plays well, maybe he leaves for the NBA or Europe a year early. If the situation at SJU does not work out, he could then transfer and enjoy immediate eligibility as a grad student. Unless I’m missing something, if he transfers now, he doesn’t get to play next year.
Put another way, he has nothing to lose by staying at St. John’s and everything to gain. Who the heck is advising this kid?
I think we all want LJ to stay but if he leaves it doesn't mean the sky is falling. Let everything play out. This time last year we didn't know we would have Heron and LJ and certainly none of us knew how good LJ was. Our current coaching staff has relationships too so let's see how it plays out.
boo haarvey
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No denying if Figueroa leaves it would be a big blow. Both the program and CMA are in desperate need of positive momentum and this would be yet another set back.
billthetruth
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[quote="Boo Harvey" post=346095]No denying if Figueroa leaves it would be a big blow. Both the program and CMA are in desperate need of positive momentum and this would be yet another set back.[/quote]
Can't start a new program with a player and a rogue assistant coach from a mid major school trying to dictate terms.
Anderson should call Figueroa's bluff and not cave to any shady undertakings.
If he wants to sit a year and play for a mid-major schools at 23, then so be it. Good bye
We are going to be bottom third of Big East with him or without him next year.
I WANT GUYS THAT WANT TO BE HERE AND PLAY FOR NAME ON FRONT OF UNIFORM
Can't start a new program with a player and a rogue assistant coach from a mid major school trying to dictate terms.
Anderson should call Figueroa's bluff and not cave to any shady undertakings.
If he wants to sit a year and play for a mid-major schools at 23, then so be it. Good bye
We are going to be bottom third of Big East with him or without him next year.
I WANT GUYS THAT WANT TO BE HERE AND PLAY FOR NAME ON FRONT OF UNIFORM
boo haarvey
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[quote="billthetruth" post=346098][quote="Boo Harvey" post=346095]No denying if Figueroa leaves it would be a big blow. Both the program and CMA are in desperate need of positive momentum and this would be yet another set back.[/quote]
Can't start a new program with a player and a rogue assistant coach from a mid major school trying to dictate terms.
Anderson should call Figueroa's bluff and not cave to any shady undertakings.
If he wants to sit a year and play for a mid-major schools at 23, then so be it. Good bye
We are going to be bottom third of Big East with him or without him next year.
I WANT GUYS THAT WANT TO BE HERE AND PLAY FOR NAME ON FRONT OF UNIFORM[/quote]
That’s a nice thought, but unfortunately I don’t think it reflects the realities of where the program is at right now.
I don’t know the specifics behind the Hsu/Figueroa situation and I’m not suggesting CMA is obligated to make any one hire. I do, however, think that the only way we are going to get things moving is to trade in on relationships and catch a few breaks. It seemed to work nicely for Kevin Willard and Seton Hall.
If next season is an utter disaster, it’s going to be very difficult to recruit. Keep Heron and Figueroa and coach the rest of the kids up and we could be competitive next year. I think that would be huge.
Can't start a new program with a player and a rogue assistant coach from a mid major school trying to dictate terms.
Anderson should call Figueroa's bluff and not cave to any shady undertakings.
If he wants to sit a year and play for a mid-major schools at 23, then so be it. Good bye
We are going to be bottom third of Big East with him or without him next year.
I WANT GUYS THAT WANT TO BE HERE AND PLAY FOR NAME ON FRONT OF UNIFORM[/quote]
That’s a nice thought, but unfortunately I don’t think it reflects the realities of where the program is at right now.
I don’t know the specifics behind the Hsu/Figueroa situation and I’m not suggesting CMA is obligated to make any one hire. I do, however, think that the only way we are going to get things moving is to trade in on relationships and catch a few breaks. It seemed to work nicely for Kevin Willard and Seton Hall.
If next season is an utter disaster, it’s going to be very difficult to recruit. Keep Heron and Figueroa and coach the rest of the kids up and we could be competitive next year. I think that would be huge.
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=346068][quote="fordham96" post=346063][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346059][quote="fordham96" post=346057][quote="JohnnyFan" post=346053][quote="Moose" post=346051]If he transfers he will only get to play 1 year. He will have exhausted eligibility after his 1st playing year at another school.[/quote]
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.[/quote]
That's exactly what it means.
Wilson did not lose his 4 years of playing eligibility yet but he did burn his redshirt year.
You lost me on this. Why would he lose a year of playing eligibility?[/quote]
You get 5 years to complete 4 is the general rule. Remember he sat 1st year at New Mexico (that is his redshirt year). He then played 1 year of JUCO and 1 year at SJU. That is 3 years of college. If he transfers and sits next year that is 4 years. Therefore his 5th year, 2020-21, will technically be his last year of eligibility even though he will have only played basketball in 3 of those years. He would have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year. That can be granted but normally that is granted due to injury.[/quote]
Actually, this is a unique situation. Figueroa enrolled at NMSU for the spring semester only. To your point, he did not play basketball there. But, does that one semester count as a full year or a half year? It may not count at all, or he may very well be granted a waiver.[/quote]
Of course it counts as a year. If he played in 1 game even in the 2nd semester regardless of whether he enrolled only in 2nd semester he would have burned that year of playing eligibility.[/quote]
Could be, but I am not so sure. I will try to look it up. This would mean a kid like Sid Wilson used a full year (non basketball) for enrolling in the summer session at St. John's. That's pretty harsh. If so, I would think a waiver is a good possibility.[/quote]
That's exactly what it means.
Wilson did not lose his 4 years of playing eligibility yet but he did burn his redshirt year.
Its his life. There's more than one path to the NBA, and none of them are guarantees. He doesn't NEED to be here to chase his dreams.
I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the past 20 years and with him, Heron and a PG we could be decent next year.
But he doesn't owe us anything, the staff that recruited him is long gone. He should do what he thinks is best for him. Not us. Not not Hsu. Not anyone else. I hope he's here next season but I really hope he's successful wherever he ends up. He's an old school player and an easy kid to root for.
I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the past 20 years and with him, Heron and a PG we could be decent next year.
But he doesn't owe us anything, the staff that recruited him is long gone. He should do what he thinks is best for him. Not us. Not not Hsu. Not anyone else. I hope he's here next season but I really hope he's successful wherever he ends up. He's an old school player and an easy kid to root for.
billthetruth
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[quote="SJUFAN2" post=346102]Its his life. There's more than one path to the NBA, and none of them are guarantees. He doesn't NEED to be here to chase his dreams.
I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the past 20 years and with him, Heron and a PG we could be decent next year.
But he doesn't owe us anything, the staff that recruited him is long gone. He should do what he thinks is best for him. Not us. Not not Hsu. Not anyone else. I hope he's here next season but I really hope he's successful wherever he ends up. He's an old school player and an easy kid to root for.[/quote]
Problem is if you read the long article about him (and his direct quotes in it) from the Post last month, he is definitely not doing what is best for him. He is being manipulated by these so-called handlers, with their own agendas. Either that or he was a big liar last month to the writer.
I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the past 20 years and with him, Heron and a PG we could be decent next year.
But he doesn't owe us anything, the staff that recruited him is long gone. He should do what he thinks is best for him. Not us. Not not Hsu. Not anyone else. I hope he's here next season but I really hope he's successful wherever he ends up. He's an old school player and an easy kid to root for.[/quote]
Problem is if you read the long article about him (and his direct quotes in it) from the Post last month, he is definitely not doing what is best for him. He is being manipulated by these so-called handlers, with their own agendas. Either that or he was a big liar last month to the writer.