Villanova Game

[Moose]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Don't confuse some posters though. They watch basketball and don't know what feet set means

 

[Marillac]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

I'd like to see him get more looks. His shots will be there all game with minimal strategy to free him up. Any set jumper by Phil is twice as good as a set jumper from Sanchez after you figure %s and the fact that We don't lose a big rebounder for Greene.

Greene is still getting used to his new role-- which should have been his role all along. He played great defense the last four minutes, but he was not very good before that...nobody was, though.

Unless it is a set, open Greene, Hooper, or Marco jumper, I want to live and die with Harrison and Jordan to end every close game.

 

[SJU1512]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Spot on, and it may even go one step further than that - his main asset is shooting with his feet set from 3.

Phil has shot 50% from the floor only 1 time in the last 16 games. However, he's shot 50% (or better) from three 9 times in the last 16 games.

Over those 16 games, he's shooting a paltry 32% from 2. Yet, he's shooting an excellent 43% from 3 in that same span, and if you start counting from the Dartmouth game, he's an outrageous 52% from 3.

Phil really needs to be a spot up shooter for us. It's great that he has the ability to keep defenders honest because there is the threat of a dribble-by, but the reality is a lot of them don't get converted into baskets (and certainly not assists). He loves the pull-up jumper, but it's a low percentage shot to begin with, and it's not going in at a high rate for him.

 

[paultzman]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Spot on, and it may even go one step further than that - his main asset is shooting with his feet set from 3.

Phil has shot 50% from the floor only 1 time in the last 16 games. However, he's shot 50% (or better) from three 9 times in the last 16 games.

Over those 16 games, he's shooting a paltry 32% from 2. Yet, he's shooting an excellent 43% from 3 in that same span, and if you start counting from the Dartmouth game, he's an outrageous 52% from 3.

Phil really needs to be a spot up shooter for us. It's great that he has the ability to keep defenders honest because there is the threat of a dribble-by, but the reality is a lot of them don't get converted into baskets (and certainly not assists). He loves the pull-up jumper, but it's a low percentage shot to begin with, and it's not going in at a high rate for him.

Nicely done. Will add his "floater" has also become less effective it seems.

 

[SJU1512]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Spot on, and it may even go one step further than that - his main asset is shooting with his feet set from 3.

Phil has shot 50% from the floor only 1 time in the last 16 games. However, he's shot 50% (or better) from three 9 times in the last 16 games.

Over those 16 games, he's shooting a paltry 32% from 2. Yet, he's shooting an excellent 43% from 3 in that same span, and if you start counting from the Dartmouth game, he's an outrageous 52% from 3.

Phil really needs to be a spot up shooter for us. It's great that he has the ability to keep defenders honest because there is the threat of a dribble-by, but the reality is a lot of them don't get converted into baskets (and certainly not assists). He loves the pull-up jumper, but it's a low percentage shot to begin with, and it's not going in at a high rate for him.

Nicely done. Will add his "floater" has also become less effective it seems.

For sure. And there is no doubt that floater was a major strength his first two years.

The funny thing is in terms of "roles", Phil turning into a 3 point specialist couldn't come at a better time, with Rysheed emerging as the primary playmaker and Harrison clearly being the primary perimeter scorer. The more Phil can space the floor for them (and Sampson and Obekpa on the interior) the better. And, as Marillac noted above, we could do more to get Phil more looks out there.

Where we get into trouble is when Phil and/or Lavin think Phil is (A) the primary playmaker/ballhandler, or (B) the primary scorer.

 

[Andrew]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Spot on, and it may even go one step further than that - his main asset is shooting with his feet set from 3.

Phil has shot 50% from the floor only 1 time in the last 16 games. However, he's shot 50% (or better) from three 9 times in the last 16 games.

Over those 16 games, he's shooting a paltry 32% from 2. Yet, he's shooting an excellent 43% from 3 in that same span, and if you start counting from the Dartmouth game, he's an outrageous 52% from 3.

Phil really needs to be a spot up shooter for us. It's great that he has the ability to keep defenders honest because there is the threat of a dribble-by, but the reality is a lot of them don't get converted into baskets (and certainly not assists). He loves the pull-up jumper, but it's a low percentage shot to begin with, and it's not going in at a high rate for him.

Nicely done. Will add his "floater" has also become less effective it seems.

For sure. And there is no doubt that floater was a major strength his first two years.

The funny thing is in terms of "roles", Phil turning into a 3 point specialist couldn't come at a better time, with Rysheed emerging as the primary playmaker and Harrison clearly being the primary perimeter scorer. The more Phil can space the floor for them (and Sampson and Obekpa on the interior) the better. And, as Marillac noted above, we could do more to get Phil more looks out there.

Where we get into trouble is when Phil and/or Lavin think Phil is (A) the primary playmaker/ballhandler, or (B) the primary scorer.

I would like to see Jordan kick it out to Greene or Harrison for threes more when he gets doubled team driving to the hole.

 

[Marillac]

Phil Greene has become a pretty good three point shooter this season when left open. He is making 42 percent. We need to free him for more open looks when the defense extends on him.

His main asset is shooting with feet set, as noted by many.

Spot on, and it may even go one step further than that - his main asset is shooting with his feet set from 3.

Phil has shot 50% from the floor only 1 time in the last 16 games. However, he's shot 50% (or better) from three 9 times in the last 16 games.

Over those 16 games, he's shooting a paltry 32% from 2. Yet, he's shooting an excellent 43% from 3 in that same span, and if you start counting from the Dartmouth game, he's an outrageous 52% from 3.

Phil really needs to be a spot up shooter for us. It's great that he has the ability to keep defenders honest because there is the threat of a dribble-by, but the reality is a lot of them don't get converted into baskets (and certainly not assists). He loves the pull-up jumper, but it's a low percentage shot to begin with, and it's not going in at a high rate for him.

Nicely done. Will add his "floater" has also become less effective it seems.

The floater has vanished. Such a devastating weapon too...bigs can't resist going for the block and it leaves the basket wide open for rebounds.

 

[montyaloofah]

I don't mind Phil Greene taking spot up 3's. I actually feel better about him taking that kind of shot than Sanchez (very flat shot). It's a bit more of an adventure when he tries to create off the dribble. I don't want to kill the kid too much because his threes at the beginning were big to get us back in the game. And if i were to play devil's advocate, maybe his attempts at dribble penetration keeps the defense a lil honest. Anyway, beat Xavier...

 

[jerseyshorejohnny]

http://nypost.com/2014/02/23/st-johns-rewind-six-game-win-streak-snapped-by-villanova/

 

[Section3]

I spoke to a Villanova fan yesterday, and we of course discussed the game and our tournament chances. I told him I thought that St. John's would get in, and he said that our problem is we have an overrated coach.

He said that he's a "good cheerleader and recruiter, but he can't be trusted in close games,"

The nova fan was also at the game, in the second row, and said Harrison was complaining the ENTIRE game. He said he whined all day, and the travel call at the end really set him off, and he thought he might get a Technical.

Hopefully John Lucas can give him a quick call and calm him down, cause I've noticed just on television he's been acting a lot like he did last year of late.

Different fans...Different views...

Harrison has a tendency to show his emotions...that is a fact...but he was getting banged all game long

Jay Wright (like him) was working refs entire game

I am sure the Nova fan would have been whining had Arcidiacano been called for using his off hand on just about every drive

 

[mjmaherjr]

I spoke to a Villanova fan yesterday, and we of course discussed the game and our tournament chances. I told him I thought that St. John's would get in, and he said that our problem is we have an overrated coach.

He said that he's a "good cheerleader and recruiter, but he can't be trusted in close games,"

The nova fan was also at the game, in the second row, and said Harrison was complaining the ENTIRE game. He said he whined all day, and the travel call at the end really set him off, and he thought he might get a Technical.

Hopefully John Lucas can give him a quick call and calm him down, cause I've noticed just on television he's been acting a lot like he did last year of late.

I am sure the Nova fan would have been whining had Arcidiacano been called for using his off hand on just about every drive

that was driving me crazy him doing that

 

[Chris7]

Yes we lost and that is what matters most. But am I crazy for feeling happy with the effort we put fourth and how we had a never die attitude at a huge away game? I think we are still heading in the right direction and are clicking at just the right time. We (the team) should vibe off of this battle and use this loss as motivation to finish the season strong and wreak havoc in the BE tournament.

I would put big money on the fact that other teams, not just in our conference, but throughout the top 25 do not want to play St. John's at all. We are dangerous.

 

[Moose]

Yes we lost and that is what matters most. But am I crazy for feeling happy with the effort we put fourth and how we had a never die attitude at a huge away game? I think we are still heading in the right direction and are clicking at just the right time. We (the team) should vibe off of this battle and use this loss as motivation to finish the season strong and wreak havoc in the BE tournament.

I would put big money on the fact that other teams, not just in our conference, but throughout the top 25 do not want to play St. John's at all. We are dangerous.

The reason I'm not quite ready to call us dangerous if because we struggle to close out games.

 

[logen]

Yes we lost and that is what matters most. But am I crazy for feeling happy with the effort we put fourth and how we had a never die attitude at a huge away game? I think we are still heading in the right direction and are clicking at just the right time. We (the team) should vibe off of this battle and use this loss as motivation to finish the season strong and wreak havoc in the BE tournament.

I would put big money on the fact that other teams, not just in our conference, but throughout the top 25 do not want to play St. John's at all. We are dangerous.

The reason I'm not quite ready to call us dangerous if because we struggle to close out games.

I would agree and add we still have not committed to an approach on offense and stuck with it. I am a tough critic but I thought our guard play against Nova was horrendous in terms of trying to get us into any consistent offensive flow. Lavin's refusal to use Branch was puzzling to say the least.

 

[Moose]

Yes we lost and that is what matters most. But am I crazy for feeling happy with the effort we put fourth and how we had a never die attitude at a huge away game? I think we are still heading in the right direction and are clicking at just the right time. We (the team) should vibe off of this battle and use this loss as motivation to finish the season strong and wreak havoc in the BE tournament.

I would put big money on the fact that other teams, not just in our conference, but throughout the top 25 do not want to play St. John's at all. We are dangerous.

The reason I'm not quite ready to call us dangerous if because we struggle to close out games.

I would agree and add we still have not committed to an approach on offense and stuck with it. I am a tough critic but I thought our guard play against Nova was horrendous in terms of trying to get us into any consistent offensive flow. Lavin's refusal to use Branch was puzzling to say the least.

The 2nd half of the year we have seemed to play isolation in 2nd halves but first halves we play a more clear motion offense. Baffling.

 

[paultzman]

Yes we lost and that is what matters most. But am I crazy for feeling happy with the effort we put fourth and how we had a never die attitude at a huge away game? I think we are still heading in the right direction and are clicking at just the right time. We (the team) should vibe off of this battle and use this loss as motivation to finish the season strong and wreak havoc in the BE tournament.

I would put big money on the fact that other teams, not just in our conference, but throughout the top 25 do not want to play St. John's at all. We are dangerous.

The reason I'm not quite ready to call us dangerous if because we struggle to close out games.

I would agree and add we still have not committed to an approach on offense and stuck with it. I am a tough critic but I thought our guard play against Nova was horrendous in terms of trying to get us into any consistent offensive flow. Lavin's refusal to use Branch was puzzling to say the least.

College basketball is a guards game &, as you noted,we fell short Saturday in that regard? Better tempo and flow tonight a must!

 

[Eddyman11]

We lost at Nova by 3 without Sanchez and with Obekpa on one leg. When we meet them in the Big East Tourney, We will win by 7 to 10 points. Our guys competed till the end. I am not one for excuses, but some of those calls were atrocious. Maybe I am bias, maybe I am right. Nova is a great team, but we are just playing better Basketball, putting more effort on both ends and putting together more consistent performances. I feel good about where the program is right now and where it can be in the near future.

Anyhow- #HammerToRock #OneGameAtATime . Tonight if we can stay infront of Semaj Christon and keep Stainbrook off the glass. should be starting a new win streak comfortably.

 

[westchesterjoe]

I thought we reverted to much of our pre-streak standing around offense game plan. And, while it's harsh, Greene and Pointer played way too much, even without Sanchez. Branch did not play enough .
Nova also had 9's 3 's for 27 points. We had 3 for 9 points. Enough said there. We still don't defend the 3 very well and don't shoot it well ourselves. The 18 point differential was enormous.

DLO and Jordan did not finish their usual inside layups, mostly due to not getting any foul calls while they were pounded. DLO let it get to him..

NOVA IS A GOOD team, well coached, don't beat themselves.

 

[tom in salem]

I thought we reverted to much of our pre-streak standing around offense game plan. And, while it's harsh, Greene and Pointer played way too much, even without Sanchez. Branch did not play enough .
Nova also had 9's 3 's for 27 points. We had 3 for 9 points. Enough said there. We still don't defend the 3 very well and don't shoot it well ourselves. The 18 point differential was enormous.

DLO and Jordan did not finish their usual inside layups, mostly due to not getting any foul calls while they were pounded. DLO let it get to him..

NOVA IS A GOOD team, well coached, don't beat themselves.

3-POINT FG PCT DEFENSE G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Providence 15 78 250 .312
2. St. John's 15 86 274 .314
3. Seton Hall 14 78 234 .333
4. Georgetown 15 89 261 .341
5. Creighton 15 99 288 .344
6. Butler 15 87 242 .360
7. Villanova 14 96 245 .392
8. Xavier 14 113 285 .396
9. Marquette 14 116 292 .397
10. DePaul 15 102 246 .415

 

[redman#13]

at one point when Branch was in the game he took an ill advised shot and you can see Lavin call for his replacement on a bench. The short leash on branch is mind boggling. But he does make some real bone headed plays