UConn Still Shopping ?

Agree. Other conference only grew so they could have conference football championship game. Doesn't apply to the BE and they get the best basekball schedule.
 
Mike Francessa just stated on the FAN that the best Big East expansion would be Wichita State and UCONN. Both good basketball schools that would bring good fans and prominence to the Big East

Hate Francesca...But, don't disagree...

That said, its not like he knew something that we didnt already know

The Big East already has prominence without either of them. Has UConn brought prominence to the AAC? Their open attempts to get out has done the exact opposite.

I am not against a expansion as long as their is a good fit and a rationale behind it. Having a FBS school join is not a reasonable fit.
 
A couple of things. First is that even though it was rumored that UConn was shopping for another conference, they technically didn't leave the Big East. We broke away from them.

Also, say we take on UConn and then they leave in 7-10 years. Big deal, that wouldn't damage the Big East one bit. If anything it would potentially bring big benefits in those years we have them.

Even though I've been adamant about having them in, I still don't think it's the best fit. They have great history, but they're a large state school and don't quite fit in with the rest. Dayton, VCU or Wichita State would be great.
 
I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

Disagree but respectfully. Uconn bball has been one of the very best programs over the oast 25 years, and in the big east would be in the top half. Their presence wpuld improve league profile and they are in the intended league geography

They don't fit the league profile and are a proven commodity as a scumbag partner that the power conferences have been smart enough to stay away from. Aside from that you are old enough to remember a lot of great programs that were great then not so much. Someone recently said on here that Illinois had no basketball tradition. 25 years ago nobody would have said that. Indiana was arguably the greatest program post UCLA and they are middling now for years. Things change. Yukon is full of crap on every level and I want them to fail but if I thought they were good for St John's, I'd say bring them. They are not. They screwed us in particular at every opportunity. If I were ruling the roost at Villanova, I'd want no part of reviving Yukon. If I were budding midwest partners like Creighton or Butler, I'd not want to see the emphasis you are espousing either.

Big East is doing great and exceeding all expectations and predictions based upon its own unique identity. Pining away for football schools etc is a proven recipe for failure and we are living in the beginnings of a great formula that a few private schools can have success with playing in the big pond. We should be enjoying and strengthening that, not trying to be something else. It should not be messed with trying to emulate the football conferences which as far as St Johns is concerned, will never be part of a successful equation.

"reviving Yukon"? They won the national championship 3 years ago. St. John's has never won a championship and hasn't even won an NCAA Tournament game in 17 years.
 
Mike Francessa just stated on the FAN that the best Big East expansion would be Wichita State and UCONN. Both good basketball schools that would bring good fans and prominence to the Big East

I'd say UConn & VCU would be more likely. But again, it completely depends on what the Big East is looking for. Schools like that would definitely up the level of competition and national profile, but I do get the hesitancy with going down that road again. Schools like Dayton, St. Louis, Richmond, & St. Joe's pose less of a threat.
 
Does UCONN actually make money on their football program? If so, is it a lot?
 
A couple of things. First is that even though it was rumored that UConn was shopping for another conference, they technically didn't leave the Big East. We broke away from them.

Also, say we take on UConn and then they leave in 7-10 years. Big deal, that wouldn't damage the Big East one bit. If anything it would potentially bring big benefits in those years we have them.

Even though I've been adamant about having them in, I still don't think it's the best fit. They have great history, but they're a large state school and don't quite fit in with the rest. Dayton, VCU or Wichita State would be great.

I agree with your first point as it is a reason many use it for not admitting them and I keep reminding them that they (nor did Cincy) leave the Big East.

Does UCONN actually make money on their football program? If so, is it a lot?

If you look at the bottom line, many schools don't. However, it is not just about the bottom line with the football program, it is the other things that it might bring to the school in terms of donors and other fringe items.
 
"reviving Yukon"? They won the national championship 3 years ago.

That doesn't seem like eons ago to you? It does to me. With each year spent in the AAC that program will die a little more. And if the Big 12 ever gets their asses in gear with regard to expansion, Cincy is in better position to get an invite. Could UConn make a big comeback to the national stage? I suppose it's possible, but I really think they are closer to irrelevancy than a national championship right now.
 
I'm sorry, but even with the possible addition of WS, the AAC has no juice. Granted there are top teams in Cincy and SMU (this year), and likely WS in the future. But UConn is holding on for dear life (thankfully) and most all other teams/schools are ho-hum. They have no unifying element, they have different cultures, they are spread too far apart. They may have coaching personalities in Cronin, Ollie and Marshall, but other than that there's nothing that compels me to watch them.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/18983243
 
Yukon needs a geographic rival.

IMO Yukon should fight for UMass to be admitted to the AAC.
 
You know you're in a bad fit conference-wise, when 5 of your member schools are "driving distance" from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Can you imagine if we ended up in that mess of a conference had the basketball schools not broken off.
 
Per Goodman
UConn losing Steven Enoch, now Vance Jackson. Assistant Glen Miller also gone. Lots of changes in Storrs.
 
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Sources: Wichita State to join AAC as soon as 2017-18 (link:http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...an-athletic-conference-missouri-valley-033017) foxsports.com/college-basket… via @FoxSports

Would still like to see Fox sneak in here to make a Big East offer.

You would think that Wichita State would like that as well
It doesn't look like the league will expand in the near future
However, if it did, I would think they would add 2 teams at the same time
 
Per Rothstein

"The AAC is preparing for the Wichita State Shockers to join the league for the 2017-18 season, a source told FanRag Sports on Tuesday."
 
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...dding-wichita-state-could-begin-play-in-fall/

AAC voting on Wichita, but I liked this part of the article:

Even Gonzaga AD Mike Roth addressed the interest in his school over the weekend the Final Four.

“If someday the Big East and their financial partners come together and say, ‘You know what we’ll call it the Big East but we’ll be in all four time zones and really get after that four-letter monster [ESPN] that lives in Bristol, Connecticut,” Roth said. “In that case, can other schools in the West join Gonzaga and split into two [divisions].”

The Big East has been in its current 10-team, private school configuration since the 2013-14 season. Like Gonzaga, none of the schools play major college football.

Roth said coach Mark Few has even made a point to him the Zags could fly anywhere to play conference games because it charters.

“I tell him, ‘Mark, it has nothing to do with us flying there. It’s them flying here,’” Roth said.

Gonzaga plays in the West Coast Conference.

“In January, February, we’re in San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles,” Few said. “It’s not horrible.”
 
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/aac-presidents-to-vote-this-week-on-adding-wichita-state-could-begin-play-in-fall/

AAC voting on Wichita, but I liked this part of the article:

Even Gonzaga AD Mike Roth addressed the interest in his school over the weekend the Final Four.

“If someday the Big East and their financial partners come together and say, ‘You know what we’ll call it the Big East but we’ll be in all four time zones and really get after that four-letter monster [ESPN] that lives in Bristol, Connecticut,” Roth said. “In that case, can other schools in the West join Gonzaga and split into two [divisions].”

The Big East has been in its current 10-team, private school configuration since the 2013-14 season. Like Gonzaga, none of the schools play major college football.

Roth said coach Mark Few has even made a point to him the Zags could fly anywhere to play conference games because it charters.

“I tell him, ‘Mark, it has nothing to do with us flying there. It’s them flying here,’” Roth said.

Gonzaga plays in the West Coast Conference.

“In January, February, we’re in San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles,” Few said. “It’s not horrible.”

It's not the worst idea in the world.
 
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