Time To Man Up Posters-The Line Forms Here

preseason I thought we would easily make the tourney. mid-season I thought we had no chance with the rysheed drama among other things. And early march I thought we were a potential sweet 16 team. Basically I'm an idiot. I'd like to continue that trend and predict we will not win on Friday!
 
There were plenty of naysayers on this board. Early on, the question asked was whether this team would make the tournament. Plenty, including me, said no way. Deeper into the season, maybe after the poor conference start, the question was asked again. And the answer was no way from some more posters, including me. I underestimated this team's will to win, to bounce back, and to deal with adversity like suspensions, missing players, and banged up players who could not, and would not, rest.

So man up and post if you were on the wrong side of this one. If you were a believer and put that opinion on the board, feel free to take your bows. Marillac and others believed, and put up with some crap for doing so. One or more posters said early on that our 3 guard lineup could create match up problems, and not just be victimized by them. They were right, some of us were wrong. Credit has to be given to the team and coaching staff. This was not an easy path.
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This is a fan board about a basketball team, not a confessional. I think there were ample threads and posts.about the teams success, ackowledging their overachievement by almost every regular poster. Yes, there were negative posts about the teams performance duriing our losing streaks and rightfully so, this is a fan board and posters are passionate or they wouldn't be here. Anyway, I never predict because I think it is silly and goes against the very essence of sport which is that you NEVER know what is going to happen. So yes, Marillac was more right than wrong this year but last year he posted essentially the same optimistic posts and he was wrong. So what, he doesn't know what is going to happen any more than anyone does but he likes to predict and that comes under the no harm, no foul rule as far as I am concerned; he should predict away if he is so inclined. But people keep confusing the teams performance this year with the state of the program and they are two entirely different things. So asking for people to "man up" because they were wrong in their outlook before the season began is as unneccessary to me as many think the "Next Coach" thread is.
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Everyone else that posted on this thread seems to be handling this theme rather well. Call it a confessional, apology, retrospective or whatever. I was wrong. I underestimated the players. See, that's not so hard.
 
At 3-6 in the conference I thought we had no shot at making the NCAAs. And clearly I was wrong. The wins against providence, xavier and Georgetown were impressive, and unexpected considering how inconsistent we started the new year.

I do think Logan has a point about not conflating the direction of the program and extension talks with this topic. They are different animals.

But at the end of the day I was wrong about the team making the tournament.
 
College basketball is a guards game. We have very good guards. Thought we would make the tourney day after the season ended last year.
 
College basketball is a guards game. We have very good guards. Thought we would make the tourney day after the season ended last year.
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With that being said if Dom didn't improve the way he did we'd be in the NIT right now
 
College basketball is a guards game. We have very good guards. Thought we would make the tourney day after the season ended last year.
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With that being said if Dom didn't improve the way he did we'd be in the NIT right now
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Well if you asked lavin he would tell you dom is a guard ;)
 
College basketball is a guards game. We have very good guards. Thought we would make the tourney day after the season ended last year.
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With that being said if Dom didn't improve the way he did we'd be in the NIT right now
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Spot on. At 3-6 I thought we had no chance of making it. Pointer's play was the difference.
 
At 3-6 in the conference I thought we had no shot at making the NCAAs. And clearly I was wrong. The wins against providence, xavier and Georgetown were impressive, and unexpected considering how inconsistent we started the new year.

I do think Logan has a point about not conflating the direction of the program and extension talks with this topic. They are different animals.

But at the end of the day I was wrong about the team making the tournament.
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I think one thing that sports holds for fans is hope. We cling to such things, as the Mets improbable runs of 1969 and 1973, the Mookie grounder in 1986 when all hope was lost, the Jets putting legitimacy into the AFLso damned soon.

Improbable, but consider this. Should this team win one NCAA game, the feeling about Lavin will change for many. If we are to win two and knock Duke out of the tournament, as improbable as that seems, there will be an uproar to extend Lavin on the spot.

We hope against hope, and all I've ever said is let's see where this thing ends up. Right now, with dings and dents, we are in the dance, and that was the goal. New season, 0-0, and all that matters is winning one game at a time, a theme many of us adopted this season.
 
Thought we would make it after I went to the Gonzaga game. Then it was a roller coaster. I think we beat San Diego State but I also thought we would beat Robert Morris.
 
I said fron day one that we would make it and I have never waivered. Unfortunately, we did fall two games short of my win total prediction and probably a lower seeding than I had expected at the beginning of the year. Still happy with the overall body of work.

My two major disappointments this year have both come courtesy of Obekpa. The elbow to the Butler kid's head was an absolute embarrassment and the positive drug test is a big disappointment.

Sir'Dom's emergence has been my most pleasant experience. He has been, for four years, my favorite among this terrific group. D'lo achieving 2,000 pts is also up there, along with Phil's consistent and valuable contribution.
 
I said fron day one that we would make it and I have never waivered. Unfortunately, we did fall two games short of my win total prediction and probably a lower seeding than I had expected at the beginning of the year. Still happy with the overall body of work.

My two major disappointments this year have both come courtesy of Obekpa. The elbow to the Butler kid's head was an absolute embarrassment and the positive drug test is a big disappointment.

Sir'Dom's emergence has been my most pleasant experience. He has been, for four years, my favorite among this terrific group. D'lo achieving 2,000 pts is also up there, along with Phil's consistent and valuable contribution.
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As an aside, DailyNews Roger Rubin's reference to Obekpa missing therapy sessions recently for his ankle injury speaks volumes. Selfish, immature kid in my opinion.
 
I said fron day one that we would make it and I have never waivered. Unfortunately, we did fall two games short of my win total prediction and probably a lower seeding than I had expected at the beginning of the year. Still happy with the overall body of work.

My two major disappointments this year have both come courtesy of Obekpa. The elbow to the Butler kid's head was an absolute embarrassment and the positive drug test is a big disappointment.

Sir'Dom's emergence has been my most pleasant experience. He has been, for four years, my favorite among this terrific group. D'lo achieving 2,000 pts is also up there, along with Phil's consistent and valuable contribution.
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As an aside, DailyNews Roger Rubin's reference to Obekpa missing therapy sessions recently for his ankle injury speaks volumes. Selfish, immature kid in my opinion.
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Makes our next recruiting class so important. I don't think he will grow up.
 
I said fron day one that we would make it and I have never waivered. Unfortunately, we did fall two games short of my win total prediction and probably a lower seeding than I had expected at the beginning of the year. Still happy with the overall body of work.

My two major disappointments this year have both come courtesy of Obekpa. The elbow to the Butler kid's head was an absolute embarrassment and the positive drug test is a big disappointment.

Sir'Dom's emergence has been my most pleasant experience. He has been, for four years, my favorite among this terrific group. D'lo achieving 2,000 pts is also up there, along with Phil's consistent and valuable contribution.
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As an aside, DailyNews Roger Rubin's reference to Obekpa missing therapy sessions recently for his ankle injury speaks volumes. Selfish, immature kid in my opinion.
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I have no idea how this happens. How could you not want to recover from an injury? To me, the realm of basketball selfishness is wanting to take more shots or do things outside the framework of an offense or be lazy on D. Unless these physical therapy sessions were scheduled for 6 am and the kid wanted to sleep in, how the hell do you miss something that will help you heal faster. Just unbelievable.
 
Much respect to everyone in this thread that stepped up and showed that the team's success is more important than being right. That's really what it's all about.

It's not easy to be a fan of St. John's. Lavin has a very hard job and, as a whole, us fans only make it harder on him and ourselves.

I think we'll win Friday and I have hope for Sunday, but realize that we'll probably take a 15 point thumping. I'm just going to enjoy the best chance at a tournament win in 16 seasons and hold on to that hope of beating Duke until the final buzzer sounds.
 
I said fron day one that we would make it and I have never waivered. Unfortunately, we did fall two games short of my win total prediction and probably a lower seeding than I had expected at the beginning of the year. Still happy with the overall body of work.

My two major disappointments this year have both come courtesy of Obekpa. The elbow to the Butler kid's head was an absolute embarrassment and the positive drug test is a big disappointment.

Sir'Dom's emergence has been my most pleasant experience. He has been, for four years, my favorite among this terrific group. D'lo achieving 2,000 pts is also up there, along with Phil's consistent and valuable contribution.
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As an aside, DailyNews Roger Rubin's reference to Obekpa missing therapy sessions recently for his ankle injury speaks volumes. Selfish, immature kid in my opinion.
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I have no idea how this happens. How could you not want to recover from an injury? To me, the realm of basketball selfishness is wanting to take more shots or do things outside the framework of an offense or be lazy on D. Unless these physical therapy sessions were scheduled for 6 am and the kid wanted to sleep in, how the hell do you miss something that will help you heal faster. Just unbelievable.
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Weatherman, I agree, except I don't care what time therapy is scheduled for, he must to show up. Even if it is 6 am. He can sleep when the season is over. Just a lazy, uncaring, and selfish.

I was hoping Lavin (or whoever is coach next year), first order of business after the season was to recruit Jordan and Obekpa to come back.

Now, I just want that energy applied towards Jordan. Forget Obekpa, he certainly isn't worth the trouble. He will just screw up again.
 
I thought at the beginning of the season that we would make the Tournament, I suffered at different points of our schedule, but never vaccilated as the season moved forward. I guess most posters on here would call me a homey, but I don't dissect every win, or loss. This tournament is a report card on a season of work. The kids played hard and deserved the reward. The coach should be commended for keeping everything together, in a very timultuous season! He should be extended.
 
At the beginning of the year I thought we would go 9-3 pre conference and 9-9 in conference for an 18-12 record and miss the NCAA tournament without a significant run in the Big East tourney. We won a couple we probably shouldn't have and lost a couple we probably shouldn't have, like any Big East season. Happy for the seniors that they're in though.
 
Now that I've gotten past MJ Maher's comment back around page 1 about there being "passionate friends" in his section (not that there's anything wrong with that, of course) ...

I believe my comment pre-season was that the team would have some big wins, a few bad losses, would probably be a bubble team at the end of the season, and would probably end up in the NIT.

It looks like I was off by maybe a game. Otherwise, my expectation for a Lavin-led squad was pretty accurate. No apologies from here.
 
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