He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
I "spout off" as much as anyone and in almost 15 years of posting find me more than a handful of times I've ever been wrong. Same cycle every single season...I make my crazy claims, take on criticism, try to find a common ground because I am an STJ fan and want these kids to succeed, and then almost every time I am right. I started a thread two years ago comparing Hardy to Hatten...even predicted his scoring average...and took ish on both boards. The blind squirrel thing is a little off.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
I "spout off" as much as anyone and in almost 15 years of posting find me more than a handful of times I've ever been wrong. Same cycle every single season...I make my crazy claims, take on criticism, try to find a common ground because I am an STJ fan and want these kids to succeed, and then almost every time I am right. I started a thread two years ago comparing Hardy to Hatten...even predicted his scoring average...and took ish on both boards. The blind squirrel thing is a little off.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
Funny you mention that loose ball that Pointer tried to dribble instead of grabbing the damn ball. You may have noticed Lavin dramatically demonstrating to Pointer to grab the ball. The same thing happened with Porter in the G'Town - Indiana game last night. Bugs the hell out me - don't try to dribble a loose ball.
He's alone in the land of Marillac
Let me put this one out there for Marillac and others. Obekpa is averaging 5 rpg. Jones 3 rpg and pretty much same minutes. Shouldn't Obekpa's numbers be higher? Is he just getting the free pass because he is swatting 5 a game?
Five rebounds is still way too low, but that is almost double Jones. What gives me hope is Obekpa is averaging two offensive boards per game, 4x what Jones has thus for. That tells me the effort is there and he will go and get the ball. There is no question he needs to lock it down on the defensive end. I've posted that Obekpa needs work with rebounding, he thinks it's still high scool where he can just play volleyball and tap the ball to himself.
I see guys like Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa crashing the offensive glass and be annoying to other teams, just missing a lot of boards. I don't see Jones doing that at all. Also, neithe Sampson nor Obekpa had dismall rebounding #'s in high school. Traylor averaged more than double the boards on the same team, with the same coach, against nearly the same schedule a year earlier than Jones at IMG--and they were almost identical in size.
Does Obekpa get a pass, maybe a little. He changes the game defensively and because he challenges so many shots, he's not always in the best rebouding position.
Seriously, give me a break; Just missing a lot of boards!!! Is that anything like just missing a lot of 2 strike pitches? No one is boarding but everyone gets a pass except Jones..........
Where did I say everyone gets a pass? Jones doesn't move his feet at all. He's had at least a half-dozen rebounds bounce off his hands or ripped away fro him. I've watched every minute of the season and I can only remember him rebounding uncontested missed FT's on the defensive end, one rebound that bounced off the floor and was shared with Sampson (credit given to Jones and not a team rebound), and a ball that bounced once in the Baylor game. The worst for me was watching him lazily go for a 50/50 ball where he had the advantage and watching a Baylor guard close the distance and take the rebound. Obekpa blocks shot after shot and contests everything, leaving him in poor defensive position. He still averages nearly twice the rebounds. And forget about the offensive glass...Jones hasn't had a SINGLE offensive rebound in 75% of our games!!! Think about that.
Rebounding is all about effort...hitting a two-strike pitch is almost entirely skill.
Funny you don't mention the loose ball against Baylor that Pointer bent down for and Walton dove for and got and a similar play involving Greene where Baylor hit the floor and Phil didn't; both were huge plays down the stretch and required only more effort. You used to spout about how you were/are some big time coach and I have always found that laughable; no one with a modicum of real basketball knowledge would judge a player on four games or high school stats or take one or two plays out of context and say that is what the player is. I have seen Greene and Harrison both attempt to dribble the ball through double teams instead of kicking to the open man so I guess both are just point hungry selfish players who don't care about winning, only their own stats. Give the kid a chance, you may be right about Jones but only by the blind squirrel theory not because of some great basketball insight.
Funny you mention that loose ball that Pointer tried to dribble instead of grabbing the damn ball. You may have noticed Lavin dramatically demonstrating to Pointer to grab the ball. The same thing happened with Porter in the G'Town - Indiana game last night. Bugs the hell out me - don't try to dribble a loose ball.
Like a football player trying to pick up a fumble
