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Loved Mark, and he was a great Johnnie and pro, but I just never saw him listed on any top 50 lists.
Not sure he is even top 500.
They did not have player ratings array back then like now. Mark, Kenny Smith and Pearl were all highly recruited in same year obviously. I believe the three also stayed at Loughlin, Molloy and Boys High, which would not be the case today with so many good players going prep school route.
Of the three, Pearl and Kenny were perceived as the top two of the group and touted to be great pros. Mark surprised in that regard eclipsing both professionally imo.
Sorry for being off topic.
I don't completely disagree, but I was just responding to his claim that this was without a doubt the most talented roster St. John's ever had. We weren't old enough for that 85 team, but on paper it looks completely ridiculous. What a 2-time Big East player of the year like Mullin would command in the portal coming off an Olympic Gold medal would be astronomical.
I'm also not old enough, but 84/85 team would be hard to top for any program - frankly. Two college basketball player of the years, and two other guys who played 10+ years in the NBA.
I do think we can see a team during Pitino's tenure with one NBA all-star and one 10+ year NBA pro guy. But those four guys on one team? I dunno...
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You fail reading comprehensionMullin was 3X POY in BE one year sharing with Ewing. You fail history
He was entering his senior year with two, correct?Even Mullin is not listed among the top 50 NBA players of all-time.You fail reading comprehension
I think in the typical list, he is.
You fail reading comprehension
BTW, we were at the St. Lucie Mets game in April and my son was wearing a Mullin St. John’s jersey when AJ Ewing (good looking prospect) came up to the plate. He excitedly connected the Ewing-Mullin thing instantly and made me take a photo.
Not sure what you mean by the “typical” list, but he’s not on the most recent lists.
But it’s 2025 so we have the benefit of retrospect.You fail reading comprehension
To be honest though I was a little behind in reading comprehension in grade school luckily I caught up. 
On topic though guess Matt A is already working back channels to lay the groundwork for next years portal hall.
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I believe you are right! Surprised... Probably his membership on the dream team fooled me.
I think the 3 point guards that year were Mark, Kenny the Jet and Pearl. Wow!!!!!
If I remember correctly, Coach Looie told the 3 that the first one who commits, gets the scholarship. Mark quickly committed.
I believe we would have taken Pearl no matter what, and made it work.
I believe Pearl’s girlfriend went to STJs at the time, thus giving us a chance.
I don’t remember how long we stayed alive in the Pearl recruitment.
I imagine that the Pre NIL package that Syracuse offered was too much to resist.
There were 4 great point guards in that class. Kenny Hutchinson was considered #1. He won a city and state championship in 1982 playing with Gary Springer, Richie Adams, and Walter Berry. He went to the University of Arkansas but personal problems derailed his career.He later went back to college and received his degree from CCNY. He is currently living in Mew York City.
It is hard to compare teams forty years apart but you can compare them with their peers. The 84-85 team was the second best team in the county all season and made the Final Four. This team will likely start the season near the top 5. If they make the Final Four we can debate. Otherwise they may not even be the second best team. Fingers crossed.