Syracuse Fans Complaining About Big East Hoops

Played at Foster Park, Flatbush Bklyn back in the day. Very mixed, whites and blacks. Best games were on the first court, lesser games on the further away courts.

Mike Dunleavey was there a lot along with a bunch of other good players, Jim McMIllan, Heyward Dotson, Kenny Charles. Bunch of very good players no one ever heard of McManus brothers, George Bruns...

We played "no hanging" if it was full court.

Half court--bring it back to the foul line to give a change for the defense to set; call your own foul; if it went in it didn't count; no foul shots, you just got to keep the ball.

The games were single point each basket up to 11; you had to win by two, so you kept playing until one team won by two.

It was "losers out", so if you scored the other team got the ball behind the line.

You had to make at least two passes at the time of taking the ball out, whether it was after a made basket or out-of-bounds. Always behind the foul line which was imaginaryly extended across the court.

No three point line.

If you called too many of your own fouls no one would want to play with you--so no one did.

You also called your own turnovers, double dribble, walking, palming/carrying the ball....but again no one got crazy making calls or else they couldn't find a game. No one wanted to play with the "babies" and everyone knew who the babies were. It was sort of a man-code thing not to make calls except for teh egregious ones. And guys sometimes called a foul or turnover on themselves. That was ok. Offensive fouls were pretty rare.

If your team won, you kept the court until someone beat you. You asked for next, to get a game and if you were alone you picked from the among the guys whose team lost to get a full squad.

Most games were half court. Full-court was more rare.

Foster Park was fairly legendary for high quality of play. Immortalized in a book named "Heaven is a Playground", by a writer for SI. Played up this black guy named Rodney who was a so-so player, but was a hustler and street agent placing all sorts of kids in colleges. Later years I'd see him outside the Garden hustling tickets for all events. He remembered us 30 years later, haven't seen him for quite some time. I hope he is alive.

Thanks for bringing me back down memory lane, to the many courts I went to with my cousins when I visited them in Brooklyn and Manhattan to watch them play (I was younger) and the ones i played on in Queens.
 
The closest they cam to conference domination was '85-91 when they won the conference 4 times in 6 years and the BET one of the other two. That was when they clearly had top 3 talent every year but Boeheim couldn't win the big one and we all called him a shite coach. But damn, those teams were fun to watch. I remember a pre-season NIT one of those years with the Douglas/Coleman/Seikaly team running some other top 5 team out of the gym highlighted by a Sherman Douglas long snapper style pass for a breakaway dunk that brought the house down. I forget who it was to.

I remember the game well. It was Indiana in the semifinals of the Preseason NIT at MSG ('88-'89 season). This was the season after Seikaly. It was a dunk-a-thon, per Coleman, Owens, and Thompson. My brothers were laughing with all the dunks Syracuse was putting on Indiana.

Actually, Indiana was ranked #20 at the time (I had to look this one up, lol). By the way, several of us use to think Boeheim was suspect coach back in those days, as well. We figured he had so much talent, which was the reason he could win.

http://www.databasesports.com/ncaab/polls.htm?season=1988&week=2
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I was one of those who thought he won on talent alone.

80% of us did, 10% are too young to remember and 10% are lying.
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Foster Park was also home court to Hugh McMahon about 6'7" played college ball at Marquette for Al McGuire. He was a real bruiser, loved contact.

McNeese (not McManus. You're right) had a beautiful jump shot. Lived on my street.

Dunleavy senior led my HS team to championship. Nazareth.

I think Mullin must have played Foster Park, but we moved to NJ by his time.
 
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