I don't see how a conference prohibition on playing freshman would help the conference. Kids that think they are one and done, would simply not consider that conference. Similarly, kids that realize they need to improve their game won't want to sit out for a year and let their skills atrophy. I suppose the teams that played with no freshmen might be slightly more mature but I don't see that as a big plus when compared to lost talent.
Starting Lineup Next Season
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As I stated that fact has been well documented and stated (playing Freshman). I only mentioned a few that actually had. Actually if Boo had been eligible and Porter not dismissed from school (Going to the Bahamas during finals, priceless. Guess he knew he had no shot), JB might not have ever made it to campus as he was a real late spring pick-up (joining two other guards, Chucky Sproiling, a heavy recruit and Terence Mullin).
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One of my all time favorite SJU backcourts. Both could really play - Harvey the better of the two. Porter could really get off the ground for a smaller guard, and could throw it down with authority. I never knew he took off for the Bahamas but I guess that's going in style.
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Yakwe is indeed a sick athlete, but a work in progress. If you have dynamic athletes and scorers taking up 3 positions on the floor, having Yakwe and an improved Sima at the 4 and 5 will work fine. I'm also seeing the possibility of Freud at the 3, since that will be his NBA position if he gets that far. The Big East has a lot of big, strong guys at the 4 and 5. We have big skinny guys. Freud may be better at the 3, and his body will hold up longer.
We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first. 
Ray Morgan
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We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
Fwiw, would be very, very surprised if we don't land him. When he chooses to verbal is anyone's guess.
buckethead
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Pretty much agree. I could see a lot of kids going JUCO instead so they could play immediately and that would another level of headache to the whole recruiting process.
Though I realize that going to college is about academics, the reality is that for many kids college is about the stepping stone to the NBA. Force feeding them is either going to drive them somewhere else or actually cost you one extra year's worth of paying for his tuition, room and board and whatever else you pay. In reality he or she is still a one and done and you just spent thousands of dollars to try and prove a point that is moot.
Face reality, all you are doing by trying to force kids to sit a year is delaying the inevitable fact the following year that 20 (instead of 19) year old young man will be making way more than what you will make, unless you are some similarly paid university employee, like Calipari or Coach K. Quit holding him back from getting paid just for your supposedly moral compass.
We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
Fwiw, would be very, very surprised if we don't land him. When he chooses to verbal is anyone's guess.
Would your guess be the best chance of his not coming would be turning pro in Europe as opposed to signing with another school ?
College. Have distinct impression, however, it will be Johnnies. Staff thinks so.We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
Fwiw, would be very, very surprised if we don't land him. When he chooses to verbal is anyone's guess.
Would your guess be the best chance of his not coming would be turning pro in Europe as opposed to signing with another school ?
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College. Have distinct impression, however, it will be Johnnies. Staff thinks so.We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
Fwiw, would be very, very surprised if we don't land him. When he chooses to verbal is anyone's guess.
Would your guess be the best chance of his not coming would be turning pro in Europe as opposed to signing with another school ?
Dream Team 1 changed the face of international basketball. I wonder how much Mullin as a recognizable Dream Teamer helps him in Europe and around the globe in terms of recruiting
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College. Have distinct impression, however, it will be Johnnies. Staff thinks so.We should appreciate that Freudenberg is a talented player, but will have to add strength & some experience before assuming starter role IMO. Just my gut, but I think he will be content subbing at both the three & four spots his first season. Having a stretch four will be a luxury off the bench or not. Guess we should get a commitment first.
We are so beaten down as fans over ever since Looie retired, we usually spend our time dealing with worries about non-quals and player defections. It would be nice to get some good news on Freud before the next negative news hits the board.
Fwiw, would be very, very surprised if we don't land him. When he chooses to verbal is anyone's guess.
Would your guess be the best chance of his not coming would be turning pro in Europe as opposed to signing with another school ?
Dream Team 1 changed the face of international basketball. I wonder how much Mullin as a recognizable Dream Teamer helps him in Europe and around the globe in terms of recruiting
In Europe Mullin was probably referred to as one of the white guys that wasn't Larry Bird. Pretty sure Stockton and Laettner could walk into the Freudenberg house and claim to be Mullin and not be questioned.
Yes that was a sick backcourt. Boo could create for himself and others, was extremely quick, developed his jumper to three point range and had a knack for hitting clutch shots in crunch time. Porter didn't have the same range but had a nice pull-up J and could sky with the best of them. Boo was originally a Cuse recruit out of Jackson in Queens, didn't have the grades and went to San Jacinto. Porter was a McD AA out of Virginia but also didn't have the grades out of high school.