St Johns Mount Rushmore

[monte]

Tony Jackson, Sonny Dove, Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, and Ron Artest

Panther as purely a college player, you take Ron over Walter and Malik? 

 

[MattyHoops]

Mullin, Jackson, Sealy, Artest 

 

[NCJohnnie]

I believe Dove (#4) and Mullin (#7) were the only top 10 NBA draft picks from St. John's, at least in my lifetime.

 

[monte]

Not sure why Walter isn't being shown more love. He was the 85-86 national POY over such notable greats as Pearl, David Robinson, Len Bias, Johnny Dawkins, Danny Manning and many others. As purely a college player, for 2 years he was as great as anyone who ever suited up for us. 

 

[panther2]

Tony Jackson, Sonny Dove, Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, and Ron Artest

Panther as purely a college player, you take Ron over Walter and Malik? 
 

As I said earlier, I have no problem switching Berry for Artest. I think Artest accomplished more in his first two years than Malik did. However, if I was only choosing 4 year players, then I would have to go with Malik.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I pretty much start from Hatten if we are talking about watching entire careers. 

Hatten, Harrison, Ponds, Hardy

Julian, Harkless, DJ, Sir Dom make the B team. 

 

[ras]

Mullin, Jackson, Sealy, Artest 
———
add Walter Berry, player of the year.
 

 

[mjmaherjr]

I pretty much start from Hatten if we are talking about watching entire careers. 

Hatten, Harrison, Ponds, Hardy

Julian, Harkless, DJ, Sir Dom make the B team. 

Holy cow I completely forgot about D'LO and Ponds. They would be on my second or third team honorable mention list too. I cant put Harkless because he was only here 1 year

 

[JD0871]

Sonny Dove, Tony Jackson, Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson & Walter Berry.

H.M. - Boo Harvey, Willie Glass, Shelton Jones, Bill Wennington & David Russell

 

[mjmaherjr]

Sonny Dove, Tony Jackson, Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson & Walter Berry.

H.M. - Boo Harvey, Willie Glass, Shelton Jones, Bill Wennington & David Russell

Shelton Jones was kind of a big reason I became a st johns fan and went to St Johns. First game I went to at Alumni Hall in 87-88 season when I was a senior in high school I saw us play providence and he scored 31 points I think and the place was rocking sellout I think or close to sold out

 

[JD0871]

“The Amityville Horror”…. He was a GREAT contributor in his soph season & was a BIG time Big East player in his last two years at SJU…. He’ll of a nice guy too.

 

[NCJohnnie]

And let's not forget Mel Davis. In his two years with the Johnnie's averaged 21 points and 16 rebounds. Those numbers.are still pretty staggering.

 

[monte]

Lots of names being tossed around. Many very good players have worn Red, but only a handful of truly great ones have.  IMO Champ may be the only great one we've had here since Artest.  Just one man's opinion. 

 

[MarkRedman]

And let's not forget Mel Davis. In his two years with the Johnnie's averaged 21 points and 16 rebounds. Those numbers.are still pretty staggering.



Mel was a man among boys in college. He would have been a very good NBA player had he not suffered that knee injury in the NIT. His running mate at St John's, Billy Schaeffer, was no slouch either and hasn't received any mention in this thread. Bill's baseline jumper was money in the bank. Mel and Billy were great players but not Mt Rushmore candidates IMO.

 

 

[RedStormNC]

Lots of names being tossed around. Many very good players have worn Red, but only a handful of truly great ones have.  IMO Champ may be the only great one we've had here since Artest.  Just one man's opinion. 

I like Champ and hope for a great season, but I'm not ready to call him great yet. 

Many would same the same about D'Lo or Ponds. Ponds won big games carrying the team... Champ hasn't (unless I'm forgetting - please correct me)

 

[NCJohnnie]

Champs got to be the guy on a successful team before I'd put him up there with the guys we talk about as Rushmore Johnnie's. Being best player on mediocre teams doesnt do it imho. He still has time to get there.

 

[monte]

Lots of names being tossed around. Many very good players have worn Red, but only a handful of truly great ones have.  IMO Champ may be the only great one we've had here since Artest.  Just one man's opinion. 

I like Champ and hope for a great season, but I'm not ready to call him great yet. 

Many would same the same about D'Lo or Ponds. Ponds won big games carrying the team... Champ hasn't.

That's why I said "he may be". Need to see how the year goes. I should have been clearer. I consider Ponds a prolific scorer, not a great player. Some great moments no doubt, but too many other moments where I screamed at him through the TV. I never did that with the great ones I've watched(Artest, Sealy, Mullin, Berry, Jackson), and haven't done that with Champ either.  

 

[RedStormNC]

Thanks Monte..

Definitely think you might be on to something with rate and tone of screaming at the TV as a true measure of a players worth.

Think mjm should start a whole new thread of SJU Rushmore of Players who got screamed at most....lol

 

 

[mjmaherjr]

Thanks Monte..

Definitely think you might be on to something with rate and tone of screaming at the TV as a true measure of a players worth.

Think mjm should start a whole new thread of SJU Rushmore of Players who got screamed at most....lol


 

LOL That would be hilarious. I would but I dont want to start a negative thread even though it would be off the wall funny

 

[monte]

Thanks Monte..

Definitely think you might be on to something with rate and tone of screaming at the TV as a true measure of a players worth.

Think mjm should start a whole new thread of SJU Rushmore of Players who got screamed at most....lol
 

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