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I don't think they want to visit a Tulsa too often.
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I don't think they want to visit a Tulsa too often.
the other night I was enjoying watching Duke down by 15 to Miami and Uconn down by 10 to Tulsa. The conference talk didn't even give Uconn consideration as best in the conference. It was Tulsa and SMU. Uconn currently 7th in the aac. For perspective, Tulane is third behind Tulsa and SMU.
Larry Brown wins but absolutely no one was not fully expecting SMU to be run like a professional franchise complete with incentives and signing bonuses.
Larry Brown wins but absolutely no one was not fully expecting SMU to be run like a professional franchise complete with incentives and signing bonuses.
That is a poor reason to bring UCONN back into the BE. A highly competitive BE, especially with a strong St. John's team, will sell out the BE Tournament every year.
I say no to UCONN coming back under ANY circumstances.
I don't think this is true, otherwise we would've lost it last year and this would be a big deal in the media. Do you mean post 2027 or whatever when the contract runs out? Also, each school buys or is allocated a certain amount of tickets (think it's 2500 each) from MSG so MSG still gets paid.
Coaster1955
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Right...know they took an L there the other night (I'm shedding a tear). Was referring more to the "major market" that Tulsa is 
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Avon, what school did you attend?
Did you know that depending on which college within the university, we are ranked fairly well. Our law school for example is literally neck and neck with Villanova's - which is considered well regarded. I beat on the school for poor decisions affecting academic ranking, including relaxing admissions to let a flood of less qualified students in, but generally when I criticize our ad campaigns or when the subject matter is academics, generally not basketball. BTW, NC state is not a school of higher learning.
Well said, Beast.
L J S A
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UConn's best bet for a change of scenery would have been if the Big 12 had countered poaching by blowing up to 16 teams and having an eastern-ish division. They should have gone balls out trying to get a Miami, FSU, Louisville, possibly a Clemson. UConn could have played in the eastern half with them, West Virginia, Iowa St., maybe Memphis. Great basketball and still good football.
chronicbucks
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Larry is doing very similar things to Lavin. He wants to bring in talent so badly to the school that he needs to take risks on guys to keep up with the big boys.
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Did I say we were esteemed? Once I did a sales presentation in North Carolina. In a big meeting, some people told me that in public schools in the area, they nicknamed the smartest classes in the grade Tarheels, and so on down the line, with the lowest performing kids in the class they called "Wolfpack". It was a while ago, and #95 isn't that horrible and likely influenced by the influx of smart NYC people into NC.
Avon Barksdale
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ACC has 14 schools in the top 100 (undergrad)
Big East has two (2) schools
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
not that i care about the academics...im all for the sports..... and i was mistaken about UConn they are # 58 on the list
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It's a very good discussion for a non basketball thread. Most Catholic schools are urban, having been established to educate poorer Irish Catholic then Italian Catholic immigrants. As the ethnic landscape changed, many have stayed true to their mission. Georgetown and Villanova are obvious exceptions in the Big East, and Providence isn't very far behind, and I'm surprised they aren't a top 100 school. But other than that, some urban Catholic schools - St. John's, Marquette, DePaul, for example, will have a hard time cracking the top 100 unless they change strategy and become more selective over time.
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At least you are honest Hit about caring for the sports and agree with me and some others that when it comes to college basketball academics is likely down near the bottom of the list of a high major recruit who wants to play professional ball.
Recruits will go to schools like Louisville, UNLV, Memphis or St. John's for their basketball even though they are not top 100 schools.
Schools in the top 50 will always be there because of huge endowments and high selectivity. They can be very selective and exclusive because they are filthy rich and do not depend on tuition as much as most private schools, especially Catholic ones. The rankings are very deceptive after the first 50. Remember, this ranking that St. John's is in falls under national universities, and it gets evaluated against truly "national" and in the case of the top 50 "international" universities. The best high school grads all have those schools near the top of their list so schools like St. John's accept kids that may take longer to graduate and are from less affluent families. If St. John's did not admit the bottom 20 % they currently admit over a four year period their ranking likely would be in the 80' or 90's. There is really very little difference between DePaul, Seton Hall and St. John's but they are 20 points higher in the ranking. The Big East is full of very good schools from top to bottom and certainly more so than the football rich and powerful SEC.