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I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?

You are 100% correct and why I agree Slice isn't the issue here.
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?

You are 100% correct and why I agree Slice isn't the issue here.

The money owed to Slice is part of the issue for sure . His contract was a whopper for an assistant .
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.

If you are saying that Mitch got his job based on friendships and no experience.. Couldn't you use the same logic for our head coach? Do you have a problem with that?
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.

If you are saying that Mitch got his job based on friendships and no experience.. Couldn't you use the same logic for our head coach? Do you have a problem with that?
By your response you didn't understand my post . No I did not say that about Mitch making your 2 subsequent questions inapplicable.
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.

If you are saying that Mitch got his job based on friendships and no experience.. Couldn't you use the same logic for our head coach? Do you have a problem with that?
By your response you didn't understand my post . No I did not say that about Mitch making your 2 subsequent questions inapplicable.

I understood just fine. You said Mitch might have his position due to his friendship. How in the world do you think our coach got his job? Wasn't an attack btw just an observation
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.

If you are saying that Mitch got his job based on friendships and no experience.. Couldn't you use the same logic for our head coach? Do you have a problem with that?
By your response you didn't understand my post . No I did not say that about Mitch making your 2 subsequent questions inapplicable.

I understood just fine. You said Mitch might have his position due to his friendship. How in the world do you think our coach got his job? Wasn't an attack btw just an observation
Didn't take it as an attack but since we seem to be on different wave lengths I"ll just drop it here.
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

I don't think Slice is holding us back from hiring said assistant.

He is and couple that with the fact that there is no position open at the present time.

Mullin could easily restructure his contract if money was an issue with getting a quality assistant.

We are on the hook for a ton of money with Slice and it's not as easy as Mullin restructuring a contract . We also do not have a viable candidate to become an assistant coach or a spot. Do you think Mullin is restructuring his contract and then telling his best friend in Richmond to either beat it or move off of his cushy assistant coaches job for Mike Rice?
Is the idea to win or give and keep your friends in cushy jobs? Using your words, not saying this is my opinion but if MR has his position based on a friendship and not on ability and production than I would have a problem with that.

If you are saying that Mitch got his job based on friendships and no experience.. Couldn't you use the same logic for our head coach? Do you have a problem with that?
By your response you didn't understand my post . No I did not say that about Mitch making your 2 subsequent questions inapplicable.

I understood just fine. You said Mitch might have his position due to his friendship. How in the world do you think our coach got his job? Wasn't an attack btw just an observation


Happy's assumption is correct and very real in the world today. Many times it is who you know not what you know.
However we are talking about the greatest St. John's player and that is an easy sell. How long it last, no one knows.
 
I have no information as to who pushed for or signed off on the ridiculous contract given to Rohrssen, or what took place among the coaches which led to the impasse and dismissal of the assistant.
One suggestion for the future would be to avoid designating any of the three assistants as the "associate" head coach. Seems to promote expectations and petty disputes. It was a factor in the UNLV staff in-fighting, a few years ago, which led to everyone being dismissed.
Also, I would avoid the "special advisor" position. A head coach and three assistants should be sufficient to supervise 13 players.
 
I can only see Richmond leaving if he's had enough or wishes to go back to special asst role at his own doing...

Is St. Jean in it here for as long as Mullin is around ?

If St. Jean is looking to move on at some point to advance his aspirations, then perhaps better to make room for Rice now. Doubt Mullin would do that to the family friend.

Now, if Mullin & St. John's does get this program to where we all want it, then I could see St. Jean being a great option to hand off program to (as Mullin initially described his vision and his role).
 
I'd just like to see us cut this turd loose and hire an assistant like most teams have, who can both coach and recruit...

Agree thought Richmond was an answer but does not appear so.Not knowing his background other than NNBA all Star Guess like Mullin he lack experience which we need

What "answer" are you looking for?? More like a miracle. Starting with programs not in great shape but certainly better than what Mullin and co. inherited Coach K was 28-42 in his first 5 years in the ACC and Coach Calhoun was 53-63 in his first 7 years in the BE. How did their careers pan out? I have no idea if Mullin will even remotely approach that level but he and staff have a multi-tiered plan and are working that plan unlike every other coach we have had since Louie. Plan A is running with the big boys and that is a challenge at this point to say the least but it set the bar high from jump street and let people know we are in the game. I am not a huge "ratings" guy but I would expect we currently have as high or close to as high a rated team on paper as we have ever had. That certainly means little until it translates to W's but personally I am very impressed with the talent we have been able to get in essentially two years literally starting from scratch. As far as experience goes that is tricky and can be over-rated; how much of a difference maker was Gene Keady to Lavin's underachieving teams?

First of all no one will ever confuse Chris Mullin with Coach K when it comes to coaching the game of basketball. Coach K was very very young during his head coaching stint at Army. Mullin has arrived at St. John's in his middle age with zero coaching experience. Coach K was 28-42 in his first 5 years in the ACC because he had not mastered the art of signing high school kids not academically qualified for an Ivy level school like Duke. Once he did he mastered the art of selling 5 star B students on a "Duke education". Now he has mastered the art of signing "one-and-dones" that rivals Kentucky as Duke is becoming an NBA minor league franchise.
The only thing Mullin can do to compete with those established [strike]cheats[/strike] schools is win. This is the year he has a few horses to compete in the race. How he finishes will determine if we can compete with Duke, UCLA, North Carolina for players who would have great academic success at St. John's without having to take "special courses" as athletes do at North Carolina, Duke and Kentucky.
 
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