SJU to Nike
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L J S A
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[quote="Mario DiMaria" post=322752]Guess I'll have to buy my all my SJU gear now.........I'll NEVER buy another Nike product again.[/quote]
Will you have to boycott he team now too since they are moving on to Nike? Where does your protest end? Doesn't really matter, though, because you are free to protest in this country, right?
Will you have to boycott he team now too since they are moving on to Nike? Where does your protest end? Doesn't really matter, though, because you are free to protest in this country, right?
[quote="L J S A" post=322812][quote="Mario DiMaria" post=322752]Guess I'll have to buy my all my SJU gear now.........I'll NEVER buy another Nike product again.[/quote]
Will you have to boycott he team now too since they are moving on to Nike? Where does your protest end? Doesn't really matter, though, because you are free to protest in this country, right?[/quote]
One thing has nothing to do with the other. My decision to not buy any more Nike products has nothing to do with my devotion to SJU. I wish SJU would have made a different choice, but I know it's all about the money and recruiting. Some people in this country have morals. You are right, I am free to protest and my opinion about Nike is just my opinion. i'm not forcing it on anyone because you are free to make your own choices.
Will you have to boycott he team now too since they are moving on to Nike? Where does your protest end? Doesn't really matter, though, because you are free to protest in this country, right?[/quote]
One thing has nothing to do with the other. My decision to not buy any more Nike products has nothing to do with my devotion to SJU. I wish SJU would have made a different choice, but I know it's all about the money and recruiting. Some people in this country have morals. You are right, I am free to protest and my opinion about Nike is just my opinion. i'm not forcing it on anyone because you are free to make your own choices.
L J S A
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[quote="MCNPA" post=322829]Most of the best recruits play for Nike. This is the only part of this I care about. It can’t hurt at this point.[/quote]
That's pretty much it. And as far as pros, Curry is the best UA guy, but do people actually like him? I'm in Oakland so we love him, but I get the feeling nationwide that people have a problem with him.
That's pretty much it. And as far as pros, Curry is the best UA guy, but do people actually like him? I'm in Oakland so we love him, but I get the feeling nationwide that people have a problem with him.
ErickTheRed
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I could care less if they wore target gear, just play decent basketball.
[quote="L J S A" post=322839][quote="MCNPA" post=322829]Most of the best recruits play for Nike. This is the only part of this I care about. It can’t hurt at this point.[/quote]
That's pretty much it. And as far as pros, Curry is the best UA guy, but do people actually like him? I'm in Oakland so we love him, but I get the feeling nationwide that people have a problem with him.[/quote]
Steph is kind of annoying but he’s a good guy and an even better player. It’s the warriors stacked up roster that people hate moreso than any individual on the team. Well actually a lot of people hate Durant.
I like Joel Embiid and he’s UA too.
That's pretty much it. And as far as pros, Curry is the best UA guy, but do people actually like him? I'm in Oakland so we love him, but I get the feeling nationwide that people have a problem with him.[/quote]
Steph is kind of annoying but he’s a good guy and an even better player. It’s the warriors stacked up roster that people hate moreso than any individual on the team. Well actually a lot of people hate Durant.
I like Joel Embiid and he’s UA too.
Curry is revered here in home & college town of Charlotte& Davidson.
I'm going to Davidson vs. St. Joe's game tonight. They are wearing custom uniforms to go with the new sneakers Curry's brand is releasing to market.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SC30inc/status/1096208652829159427
As for SJU move to Nike. It can't hurt and I'm sure Cragg will make sure we get the max we can based on what we bring to table at this point. It won't be Duke level but his relationship w/ Nike has to be a positive. A few refreshed looks would be great and if the brand helps in any way with recruiting all the better.
I'm going to Davidson vs. St. Joe's game tonight. They are wearing custom uniforms to go with the new sneakers Curry's brand is releasing to market.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SC30inc/status/1096208652829159427
As for SJU move to Nike. It can't hurt and I'm sure Cragg will make sure we get the max we can based on what we bring to table at this point. It won't be Duke level but his relationship w/ Nike has to be a positive. A few refreshed looks would be great and if the brand helps in any way with recruiting all the better.
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JohnnyFever
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Mario, I thought the "woke" Nike campaign was silly as well, but I'm putting my love for SJ hoops above it. Kap didn't come close to sacrificing everything as they implied...the guy is worth over $20 million and was raised in a loving home with privilege. Everything is virtue signaling today, you know that. I just try to get past the BS and look forward to seeing cool Nike jerseys and gear for us. As others have said, it will probably help recruiting too, though not sure that much. UA was pretty inventive with us and gave us some cool looks...I hope Nike gives us something. There's a lot you can do with our colorway and NYC location. I recently bought a Mullin throwback SJ jersey made by Nike on eBay. I think they came out like 15-20 years ago, so it's used but still cool. Hope they can make more like that for fans. Sorry to ramble, but one thing I haven't liked is going away from legit brands like New Era and Zephyr hats and embracing "Top of the World" and "47 Brand". The hats are a bit weird and UA hats are very weird. I recently went to LIDS in the South Shore mall in Bayshore and the guy said "We have 1 St. John's hat". When he showed me, it was a purple SJU aka St. Joe's. I rolled my eyes and said "that's not St. John's". How can St. Joe's have hats for sale in LIDS and we don't?!
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322855]Mario, I thought the "woke" Nike campaign was silly as well, but I'm putting my love for SJ hoops above it. Kap didn't come close to sacrificing everything as they implied...the guy is worth over $20 million and was raised in a loving home with privilege. Everything is virtue signaling today, you know that. I just try to get past the BS and look forward to seeing cool Nike jerseys and gear for us. As others have said, it will probably help recruiting too, though not sure that much. UA was pretty inventive with us and gave us some cool looks...I hope Nike gives us something. There's a lot you can do with our colorway and NYC location. I recently bought a Mullin throwback SJ jersey made by Nike on eBay. I think they came out like 15-20 years ago, so it's used but still cool. Hope they can make more like that for fans. Sorry to ramble, but one thing I haven't liked is going away from legit brands like New Era and Zephyr hats and embracing "Top of the World" and "47 Brand". The hats are a bit weird and UA hats are very weird. I recently went to LIDS in the South Shore mall in Bayshore and the guy said "We have 1 St. John's hat". When he showed me, it was a purple SJU aka St. Joe's. I rolled my eyes and said "that's not St. John's". How can St. Joe's have hats for sale in LIDS and we don't?![/quote]
Zephyr's Snapbacks are awesome. I miss when they collabed with St John's. I still have a couple from my time at SJU but they are worn to crap. The one UA hat that's all navy with the red "St John's" Basketball logo on the front is pretty nice, but it's gone. I got it last year and wish I picked up a second one.
Zephyr's Snapbacks are awesome. I miss when they collabed with St John's. I still have a couple from my time at SJU but they are worn to crap. The one UA hat that's all navy with the red "St John's" Basketball logo on the front is pretty nice, but it's gone. I got it last year and wish I picked up a second one.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But when we got kicked off of Jordan Brand and went to Nike in the mid 00s, I don't remember Nike doing anything inventive with the jerseys. Our team took on a new logo and the adapted the jerseys as such, but to me it seems Under Armour was way more creative with the custom gear. From the skyline jerseys to the NYC based gear the team gets that was never for sale to fans.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322855]Mario, I thought the "woke" Nike campaign was silly as well, but I'm putting my love for SJ hoops above it. Kap didn't come close to sacrificing everything as they implied...the guy is worth over $20 million and was raised in a loving home with privilege. Everything is virtue signaling today, you know that. I just try to get past the BS and look forward to seeing cool Nike jerseys and gear for us. As others have said, it will probably help recruiting too, though not sure that much. UA was pretty inventive with us and gave us some cool looks...I hope Nike gives us something. There's a lot you can do with our colorway and NYC location. I recently bought a Mullin throwback SJ jersey made by Nike on eBay. I think they came out like 15-20 years ago, so it's used but still cool. Hope they can make more like that for fans. Sorry to ramble, but one thing I haven't liked is going away from legit brands like New Era and Zephyr hats and embracing "Top of the World" and "47 Brand". The hats are a bit weird and UA hats are very weird. I recently went to LIDS in the South Shore mall in Bayshore and the guy said "We have 1 St. John's hat". When he showed me, it was a purple SJU aka St. Joe's. I rolled my eyes and said "that's not St. John's". How can St. Joe's have hats for sale in LIDS and we don't?![/quote]
Thanks Mike! I agree the Nike campaign was silly (more than silly in my opinion).....Again in my opinion, Pat Tillman would have been a much better choice. He really sacrificed everything!
The thing that bother me most is that I believe Nike chose Kap for monetary reasons (how suprising) because they thought it would resonate with the millennial population. If they really believe he sacrificed anything, then we live in a F'd up world. If Nike wants to start a crusade on social injustice, they should start in their own house. The treatment of the poor people who make their sneakers in Indonesian and Chinese factories is just the beginning. The pennies it cost to make them and ship them here and charge huge margins.....Those workers are sacrificing, much more than Kap has ever had to.
As for the gear, I've purchased many items in the past (including Nike gear) that I still have......Guess I'll have to wear it all out for the remaining years of my life. I still have a sweatshirt with the Indian dribbling a basketball.
Thanks Mike! I agree the Nike campaign was silly (more than silly in my opinion).....Again in my opinion, Pat Tillman would have been a much better choice. He really sacrificed everything!
The thing that bother me most is that I believe Nike chose Kap for monetary reasons (how suprising) because they thought it would resonate with the millennial population. If they really believe he sacrificed anything, then we live in a F'd up world. If Nike wants to start a crusade on social injustice, they should start in their own house. The treatment of the poor people who make their sneakers in Indonesian and Chinese factories is just the beginning. The pennies it cost to make them and ship them here and charge huge margins.....Those workers are sacrificing, much more than Kap has ever had to.
As for the gear, I've purchased many items in the past (including Nike gear) that I still have......Guess I'll have to wear it all out for the remaining years of my life. I still have a sweatshirt with the Indian dribbling a basketball.
[quote="RedStormNC" post=322846]Curry is revered here in home & college town of Charlotte& Davidson.
I'm going to Davidson vs. St. Joe's game tonight. They are wearing custom uniforms to go with the new sneakers Curry's brand is releasing to market.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SC30inc/status/1096208652829159427
As for SJU move to Nike. It can't hurt and I'm sure Cragg will make sure we get the max we can based on what we bring to table at this point. It won't be Duke level but his relationship w/ Nike has to be a positive. A few refreshed looks would be great and if the brand helps in any way with recruiting all the better.[/quote]
Another really cool thing Curry is doing is starting a basketball camp where only 2 and 3 star recruits who are overlooked by many get invited. He’s doing it so these underrated recruits can get some exposure and maybe get recruited more.
He’s doing this because he was an overlooked recruit. Pretty cool. See, it’s hard to hate Steph... GSW a different entity though
I'm going to Davidson vs. St. Joe's game tonight. They are wearing custom uniforms to go with the new sneakers Curry's brand is releasing to market.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SC30inc/status/1096208652829159427
As for SJU move to Nike. It can't hurt and I'm sure Cragg will make sure we get the max we can based on what we bring to table at this point. It won't be Duke level but his relationship w/ Nike has to be a positive. A few refreshed looks would be great and if the brand helps in any way with recruiting all the better.[/quote]
Another really cool thing Curry is doing is starting a basketball camp where only 2 and 3 star recruits who are overlooked by many get invited. He’s doing it so these underrated recruits can get some exposure and maybe get recruited more.
He’s doing this because he was an overlooked recruit. Pretty cool. See, it’s hard to hate Steph... GSW a different entity though
JohnnyFever
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[quote="Room112" post=322861]Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But when we got kicked off of Jordan Brand and went to Nike in the mid 00s, I don't remember Nike doing anything inventive with the jerseys. Our team took on a new logo and the adapted the jerseys as such, but to me it seems Under Armour was way more creative with the custom gear. From the skyline jerseys to the NYC based gear the team gets that was never for sale to fans.[/quote]
Agree...think UA did better for us than some are giving credit for. They had the big apple design, incorporated the skyline, etc. They also gave us that alternate gray jersey. I'm hoping that Nike agreed to do a few cool concepts for us and is paying significantly more than UA, otherwise I'd argue to stay with UA IMO.
Mario, I intentionally wasn't strong with my language trying to be careful not to derail this thread but obviously it's much more than silly. Regular everyday people make way more sacrifices than Kap ever will in his life. Ironically, he's being portrayed as some anti-establishment icon, but the funny part is that the new "woke" culture actually is the establishment now. It's mainstream. He should seek a career in politics if he feels that strongly and he's 100% entitled to his own opinions. Kap is among the most privileged people on planet earth and he is acting like some guy who overcame all the odds and made a huge sacrifice which is of course absurd. The guy made over $20 million playing a game for a living and by all accounts was raised in a nice area in a loving home from adopted parents.
Agree...think UA did better for us than some are giving credit for. They had the big apple design, incorporated the skyline, etc. They also gave us that alternate gray jersey. I'm hoping that Nike agreed to do a few cool concepts for us and is paying significantly more than UA, otherwise I'd argue to stay with UA IMO.
Mario, I intentionally wasn't strong with my language trying to be careful not to derail this thread but obviously it's much more than silly. Regular everyday people make way more sacrifices than Kap ever will in his life. Ironically, he's being portrayed as some anti-establishment icon, but the funny part is that the new "woke" culture actually is the establishment now. It's mainstream. He should seek a career in politics if he feels that strongly and he's 100% entitled to his own opinions. Kap is among the most privileged people on planet earth and he is acting like some guy who overcame all the odds and made a huge sacrifice which is of course absurd. The guy made over $20 million playing a game for a living and by all accounts was raised in a nice area in a loving home from adopted parents.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322874][quote="Room112" post=322861]Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But when we got kicked off of Jordan Brand and went to Nike in the mid 00s, I don't remember Nike doing anything inventive with the jerseys. Our team took on a new logo and the adapted the jerseys as such, but to me it seems Under Armour was way more creative with the custom gear. From the skyline jerseys to the NYC based gear the team gets that was never for sale to fans.[/quote]
Agree...think UA did better for us than some are giving credit for. They had the big apple design, incorporated the skyline, etc. They also gave us that alternate gray jersey. I'm hoping that Nike agreed to do a few cool concepts for us and is paying significantly more than UA, otherwise I'd argue to stay with UA IMO. [/quote]
Under Armour iwhen they came on board immediately made that red shirt with the STJ logo and NY crown on top, which I thought was one of the coolest designs ever made for St John's gear. In fact, I feel like they were the ones who pushed the whole New Yorks Team campaign for us and incorperated it into our gear at a time when Syracuse was trying to claim it. Nike never did anything like that for us.
Agree...think UA did better for us than some are giving credit for. They had the big apple design, incorporated the skyline, etc. They also gave us that alternate gray jersey. I'm hoping that Nike agreed to do a few cool concepts for us and is paying significantly more than UA, otherwise I'd argue to stay with UA IMO. [/quote]
Under Armour iwhen they came on board immediately made that red shirt with the STJ logo and NY crown on top, which I thought was one of the coolest designs ever made for St John's gear. In fact, I feel like they were the ones who pushed the whole New Yorks Team campaign for us and incorperated it into our gear at a time when Syracuse was trying to claim it. Nike never did anything like that for us.
[quote="Room112" post=322879]
Under Armour iwhen they came on board immediately made that red shirt with the STJ logo and NY crown on top, which I thought was one of the coolest designs ever made for St John's gear. In fact, I feel like they were the ones who pushed the whole New Yorks Team campaign for us and incorperated it into our gear at a time when Syracuse was trying to claim it. Nike never did anything like that for us.[/quote]
To play devil's advocate, we never did much for Nike either.
If my memory is correct, we were one of four schools included with the launch of the Jordan brand – along with UNC, Cincy and one other. We had a couple of decent seasons and some very nice, high quality gear. I recall a very nice display in the NikeTown in Manhattan. It felt like our stock was rising.
Then came Pittsburgh...cell phone video...sexual assaults...weed...losing...Jarvii. Plenty of reasons for Nike to lose interest.
This will be our third straight season with an improving record and growing interest. I'm happy to have that in the hands of one of the world's great marketing companies.
Under Armour iwhen they came on board immediately made that red shirt with the STJ logo and NY crown on top, which I thought was one of the coolest designs ever made for St John's gear. In fact, I feel like they were the ones who pushed the whole New Yorks Team campaign for us and incorperated it into our gear at a time when Syracuse was trying to claim it. Nike never did anything like that for us.[/quote]
To play devil's advocate, we never did much for Nike either.
If my memory is correct, we were one of four schools included with the launch of the Jordan brand – along with UNC, Cincy and one other. We had a couple of decent seasons and some very nice, high quality gear. I recall a very nice display in the NikeTown in Manhattan. It felt like our stock was rising.
Then came Pittsburgh...cell phone video...sexual assaults...weed...losing...Jarvii. Plenty of reasons for Nike to lose interest.
This will be our third straight season with an improving record and growing interest. I'm happy to have that in the hands of one of the world's great marketing companies.
[quote="Mario DiMaria" post=322866]
The thing that bother me most is that I believe Nike chose Kap for monetary reasons (how suprising) because they thought it would resonate with the millennial population. If they really believe he sacrificed anything, then we live in a F'd up world. If Nike wants to start a crusade on social injustice, they should start in their own house. .[/quote]
I get what you're saying but he did sacrifice his livelihood in his chosen profession, as the settlement yesterday indicates that the NFL knows he was blackballed, pardon the put. But I don't think they put him in the ad because of his sacrifice nor to indicate that he has it hard, but rather because he was willing to stand up for something.
Of course I can tell you will keep focusing this on the military who have fuck all to do with any of this so I will only say that the anthem is not a celebration of the great might of our country at war and those who fight for it, but of the greatness of our country overall which happened to begin with a war, which is unfortunately pretty much how most things get started on this planet.
The thing that bother me most is that I believe Nike chose Kap for monetary reasons (how suprising) because they thought it would resonate with the millennial population. If they really believe he sacrificed anything, then we live in a F'd up world. If Nike wants to start a crusade on social injustice, they should start in their own house. .[/quote]
I get what you're saying but he did sacrifice his livelihood in his chosen profession, as the settlement yesterday indicates that the NFL knows he was blackballed, pardon the put. But I don't think they put him in the ad because of his sacrifice nor to indicate that he has it hard, but rather because he was willing to stand up for something.
Of course I can tell you will keep focusing this on the military who have fuck all to do with any of this so I will only say that the anthem is not a celebration of the great might of our country at war and those who fight for it, but of the greatness of our country overall which happened to begin with a war, which is unfortunately pretty much how most things get started on this planet.