Shanley : need for better basketball facilities

[Knight]

Who’s going to UBS for the first BB game played there?
I’m going.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Having moved from NYC over 5 years ago now (I've only attended 2 games in the last 5 or 6 seasons) I may be forgetting the drawbacks but I always felt such a great homecourt advantage in Carnesecca. I always thought our homecourt advantage there was underrated. When the team is good and the place is packed it feels like hell 

It still feels like hell from the heat inside

 

[room112]

Having moved from NYC over 5 years ago now (I've only attended 2 games in the last 5 or 6 seasons) I may be forgetting the drawbacks but I always felt such a great homecourt advantage in Carnesecca. I always thought our homecourt advantage there was underrated. When the team is good and the place is packed it feels like hell for the other team. Teams really hate playing there. Not badmouthing UBS without experiencing it (hopefully it's great) but I always felt like the ideal situation, for me at least, was a decent upgrade to Carnesecca where capacity can be somewhat increased without losing it's bandbox charm, the seating was more friendly on the back and legs and some upgrades in the concessions. Give me an upgraded Carnesecca with 4 or 5 "big games" at MSG per season and I couldn't ask for more. I'm sure there are significant financial hurdles for why that can't happen but it's what I envision in my head when I think of the ideal situation for the program.

I 100% agree. MSG doesn't always feel like a real home court advantage, because it's usually not full, and because you get fans of the opposing teams there. At Carnesecca, you never see fans of the opponent in there, so it can be packed with just St. John's fans.

 

[Red Drum]

Can current facility be enlarged? Haven’t been to a game there in 40 years and from what I remember there isn’t much room outside to expand.  Anyplace else on campus to build a 7,500 seat facility?

 

[RedmanMike]

I'll be there - taking the Acela up from DC that afternoon.  Cannot wait.

 

[monte]

With regard to people staying out of the city and working from home, here's what I can tell you as someone who is involved in real estate in Manhattan(and the outer boroughs); sales prices remain steady, and rental prices are above pre-covid levels and vacancies are way down. Now, I don't know if these renters are mostly former residents who are moving back, mostly newcomers or a combination of both. All I can tell you is that the rental market is booming. 

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/homes/manhattan-rents-rising/index.html[/URL]

CNN right for once lol 

 

[monte]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 

 

[room112]

I'd actually be curious to know where the majority of St John's fan base who attends games actually live. That might answer some questions about where to hold games. 

 

[19854ever]

Room 112 I would love to get those stats as well, my guess is the entirety of geographical Long Island 80%,(Brooklyn , Queens, Nassau and Suffolk 



 

 

[Double J]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 
 

Were you at the CA games against #10 Creighton where Greg Williams was on fire or the game against Marquette where Ponds had 44 or even the game we lost to Vermont after a furious comeback? When CA is jumping it is just as exciting as anywhere else and I hope we never go completely away from it. That being said, I love MSG too, the big second half comeback against Nova was probably the best game experience I've ever had. I guess what I'm saying is both arenas have their merits and I hope the school continues to use both when appropriate. 

 

[Mean Gene]

Can current facility be enlarged? Haven’t been to a game there in 40 years and from what I remember there isn’t much room outside to expand.  Anyplace else on campus to build a 7,500 seat facility?

If I remember correctly, there’s room to blow out both ends and put seats behind each basket. That would get you to 7,000. That’s enough

 

[GardenCity62]

A big game victory at MSG generates ten times the media coverage than a big win at CA. The coverage will result in a few days of newspaper articles and this is a major part of SJU’s recruiting.

 

[monte]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 

 

Were you at the CA games against #10 Creighton where Greg Williams was on fire or the game against Marquette where Ponds had 44 or even the game we lost to Vermont after a furious comeback? When CA is jumping it is just as exciting as anywhere else and I hope we never go completely away from it. That being said, I love MSG too, the big second half comeback against Nova was probably the best game experience I've ever had. I guess what I'm saying is both arenas have their merits and I hope the school continues to use both when appropriate. 

CA has definitely gotten louder in recent years. Wasn't suggesting that we abandon CA. Think both CA and MSG have their place. Don't think UBS should replace either or both. 

 

[redken]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 


 

Were you at the CA games against #10 Creighton where Greg Williams was on fire or the game against Marquette where Ponds had 44 or even the game we lost to Vermont after a furious comeback? When CA is jumping it is just as exciting as anywhere else and I hope we never go completely away from it. That being said, I love MSG too, the big second half comeback against Nova was probably the best game experience I've ever had. I guess what I'm saying is both arenas have their merits and I hope the school continues to use both when appropriate. 

CA has definitely gotten louder in recent years. Wasn't suggesting that we abandon CA. Think both CA and MSG have their place. Don't think UBS should replace either or both. 

Amen!

 

[mjmaherjr]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 

 

[Mullins Revenge]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 

New years eve vs Butler when we had that insane 2nd half comeback was insane at Carnesecca.  

 

[SJU61982]

I wonder if they have ever considered building a new facility similar to The Pit at New Mexico, where the actual arena is well below ground, you just enter through a small building.

If they can do that, then we can have a lot of freedoms with what we can do with our home court, WRT space, capacity, etc.

Now, that might not be possible, but if it is, it is something worth exploring, IMO.

 

[nysj144]

Who’s going to UBS for the first BB game played there?
I’m going.

yes.   Going to Kansas game
 

 

[monte]

There is absolutely nothing like watching an exciting St. John's team,  in close game, at MSG. CA cannot compare, even with the partisan crowd. Maybe it's the alcohol at MSG, maybe it's because CA attracts more old fans and families, not as many students as other on campus arenas. I don't really know why, all I know is that I have rarely ever heard CA truly rocking, and I've been to numerous games at MSG were it felt like we were about to blow the roof off the house. 

 

[Porgyman]

I wonder if they have ever considered building a new facility similar to The Pit at New Mexico, where the actual arena is well below ground, you just enter through a small building.

If they can do that, then we can have a lot of freedoms with what we can do with our home court, WRT space, capacity, etc.

Now, that might not be possible, but if it is, it is something worth exploring, IMO.

Don’t know if it has been considered, but it won’t work here. New Mexico = cheaper labor costs. State school with resources. St John’s = Most expensive construction labor costs in the country. Private Catholic school with limited resources. It won’t happen here.