Rysheed

Aside from Chris Obepka, I didn't see anyone who I thought played well for the Red Storm yesterday.
Part of the problem was the amazingly inadequate coaching strategy on both ends of the court. This poorly thought out game plan played right into the strengths of Humbolt State, who eventually were worn down by our superior depth and talent. This game should have been a walk in the park for a coach who knew what he was doing. As for Jordan, I feel that some of you are being somewhat overcritical. After all, we've only played one game. He did score in the vicinity of 20 points. That's hardly a disaster area. Part of the problem is that he isn't really a point guard. How many really neat passes have you seen him perform in his SJU career so far...you don't need more than one hand to count them. The position calls for a "creater", whose goals are to make the team go and put other people in position to score. The kid is a scorer, and sees himself as a scorer. In his heart he wants to outscore Harrison. That is not a point guard. Only the special players meet high standards when playing out of position.
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And that is what I and a few others said. A 6'4 point guard is special. Too bad he is showing he isn't. Most of those 2nd half points came off the ball. He had two nice plays where he posted up his defender for turn around J's.
 
Yep, he needs to play off the ball. Put Branch at PG with Dee & Jordan on wings.
 
Yep, he needs to play off the ball. Put Branch at PG with Dee & Jordan on wings.
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We ve been saying this all last year. But Lavin has a love affair w Greene.
 
It was just the first scrimmage and it was only November first, but that first half was awful. We don't have a chance if Sheed and D'Angelo aren't both stars. Rysheed should have eaten these kids alive. He needs to have a better feel for what he needs to do...he can't just think "drive no matter what here." That is high school sh*t. He needs to read his defender and adjust and counter when necessary. He also needs to be more of a PG. He missed some wide open looks....Balamou was signaling with two hands for an alley-oop and Jordan's head was down. Branch has much better vision IMO. I'll never understand the short leash Lavin gives Branch while letting Dom dribble the ball at his chin and make mistake after mistake.

Sheed's chances of getting drafted in 2015 are slim and none, and he simply does not have any margin of error. I never saw Semaj Christon play this poorly as a frosh let alone as a soph--and he was only a second rounder.
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And I thought Christon didn't make a roster
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My point exactly.
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But you didn't say it:)
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I didn't know it ;) but it strengthens my argument. Semaj Christon was a monster and had no holes or question marks and had better stats than Jordan. It is sobering that a kid that good can't start off on a roster. That is the reality of playing PG in the NBA...it's the hardest position to get drafted, make a roster, and stay in the league at.

I like Jordan off the ball this year. Branch has much better vision and he runs pick-and-rolls better. The offense flows much better when Branch is at point and Harrison and Jordan are off the ball. Of course this kills Jordan's draft prospects, but the truth is out there...he's not a pure PG. I love what he does for us off the ball on both ends.
 
Rich, Humboldt game felt like Greene was being allowed to slowly fade away.
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I don't know about that. We'll certainly need him this year for about 20 mpg. He is the second best shooter on a pitiful shooting team.

Yesterday was more of a chance to give Jordan a chance to get some burn and dig himself out of his hole. You know what you are gong to get with Greene....you don't know with Jordan.
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
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But where do you see him playing ball next year?
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
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But where do you see him playing ball next year?
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No Idea, whats that matter? What about obekpa.
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
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But where do you see him playing ball next year?
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No Idea, whats that matter? What about obekpa.
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Its a question to converse. And kind of ther point of the thread.

Obekpa? He has a lot more of a chance of playing where Sheed wants to be next year. He's bought in. Sheed hasn't. I thought I was watching another Philly 'PG' yesterday and Nuri returned.
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
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But where do you see him playing ball next year?
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No Idea, whats that matter? What about obekpa.
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Its a question to converse. And kind of ther point of the thread.

Obekpa? He has a lot more of a chance of playing where Sheed wants to be next year. He's bought in. Sheed hasn't. I thought I was watching another Philly 'PG' yesterday and Nuri returned.
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IDK, didnt buy in? why because he didnt handle the ball well? Its not like he was chucking up shots. I think he will be fine. Not a selfish player, maybe he wants to be in the pros. Im sure they all do.
 
It's amazing how people can predict the future (including Sheed's future career) based on one exhibition game. Amazing!
 
Wow, I think you guys are really overreacting with Jordan. That was the worst game ive seen him play, he was terrible. But ive also seen him give Gtown 25 pts as a freshmen.
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But where do you see him playing ball next year?
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No Idea, whats that matter? What about obekpa.
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Its a question to converse. And kind of ther point of the thread.

Obekpa? He has a lot more of a chance of playing where Sheed wants to be next year. He's bought in. Sheed hasn't. I thought I was watching another Philly 'PG' yesterday and Nuri returned.
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IDK, didnt buy in? why because he didnt handle the ball well? Its not like he was chucking up shots. I think he will be fine. Not a selfish player, maybe he wants to be in the pros. Im sure they all do.
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Yepper, good points.
 
It's amazing how people can predict the future (including Sheed's future career) based on one exhibition game. Amazing!
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It is amazing.
It's actually called speculating. We know how you don't like doing that. Too bad last time someone did and you didn't like it they were right.
 
Funny I thought this was a thread about Rysheed
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I thought it was my passport for a second
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I was actually going to make the same comment. :cheer:

He'd better hope it's yours and not his, because none of the stamps came from places with decent basketball. But I suppose if he loves eating and being sweaty, there are worse places for a basketball career than Singapore.
 
Funny I thought this was a thread about Rysheed
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I thought it was my passport for a second
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I was actually going to make the same comment. :cheer:

He'd better hope it's yours and not his, because none of the stamps came from places with decent basketball. But I suppose if he loves eating and being sweaty, there are worse places for a basketball career than Singapore.
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I'm not a huge fan of the sweating my ass off part but I'd take it over the weather in buenos aires today. It was cold and a freaking monsoon today. Was funny watching the Boca soccer game being played on tv down here in an absolute swamp though. Looked like water polo
 
Rysheed will be this teams best player halfway through the year. I refuse to base anything off of this game vs Humboldt St. Last year God's Gift scored 24 points against this team, what did he give us last year?
 
It's amazing how people can predict the future (including Sheed's future career) based on one exhibition game. Amazing!
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People expressing their opinions is kind of the whole point of message boards.
Fans get too up when their teams do well and get too down when they don't. The volatility seems worse among St. John's fans because we have been burned badly many times in the recent past.
 
To offer some positivity, Jordan showed again an again during the scrimmage that he will be the best catalyst on defense in terms of creating possessions and fast breaks. His defensive ability will be his ticket to wherever he goes...he needs to embrace that.
 
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