Rumor from Dick Vitale "ND could say YES to ACC

FYI......... The Big East presidents had NO ADVANCE NOTIFICATION of ND's decision.  
Click to expand...
 

.......and ND was instrumental in the Big East football expansion process. Talk about a fox in the hen house!
Bottom line is NONE of the football playing schools can be trusted. The new commish just had his rude awakening. ND is a school that neither needs football $$ or additional exposure. The ACC has clearly set its target to become the Big East v.2.
 
some questions that popped in my head, since hearing the news about ND and Calhoun.

1) Long term can this hurt our recruiting, playing in a conference with no stability?
2) If the Big East does nothing significant to improve this, would our coach want to sign another deal to coach in a conference that is no longer a big name in college bball?
3) Let's say the ACC offers STJ do we try to leave early?
4) How can we move forward? what is the best scenario? Catholic school conference or a national East/West Conference?

Thanks
 
I don't understand why the ACC can't just become a giant conference and take: SJ, G'Town, SH, Prov, Cincy, UConn, Nova, Rutgers. I mean at this point they took so many BE teams, they might as well be fair and take the rest of the big guys.

If I were the head of the NCAA and I don't know if that person holds power to do this but, I would demolish the conferences and have a conference draft. The Big East president picks, the ACC president picks, the Big 10 president picks, etc. And you are locked into like a 10 year contract.
 
 The ACC commisioner was pretty clear today; letting ND in as a non-football school was a one time exception. They're not adding a basketball school he said. Specifically.


Now commisoners have been full of bs before, but it makes sense this time. ND brings a special brand, if they add another school they'll just have one more hand they have to split the pot with.

We're not getting invited, neither are Georgetown or Villanova. That's a fantasy.
 
 BTW, this rumor was not started by DICK Vitale. It was mentioned in mid July by ESPN shills behind this further rape of the Big East. That it was announced in the middle of negotiations with ESPN tells you a lot about ESPN as a business partner. Every fog has its day and ESPN's and the ACC will come sooner rather than later.
 
enough whimpering by our "commissioner"...merge the conference with someone else or watch a few more teams leave. 

the big east lost seven outstanding teams. it's over.
 
From today's Wall Street Journal:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7647364063473328.html?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks 
Click to expand...
 

The funniest quote in the article:
For lesser bowls, Notre Dame "will basically become an ACC team in our bowl structure and our bowl lineup," Swofford said. There even will be provisions under which a Notre Dame team with one fewer victory could be selected for a given bowl over an ACC team, Swofford said.

Lesser bowls? Is it not "lesser bowls" that ND is now synonymous with? LOL!
You know ND, even with "millions" of nostalgic fans, has been a "lesser bowl" school for the last quarter century when the ACC, to snag them, needs a provision where a better ACC team loses out so the ACC gets a bigger TV audience! So much for good football! LOL!
 
Wonder what my fellow posters think of the idea that The Big East should invite Xavier, Dayton, Butler and St. Louis into the conference sooner rather than later ??

I say this because I think it is inevitable that the football schools will break away from the non-football schools at some point.

If one agrees wih the aforementioned are we better off if we recruit these 4 schools now and not down the proverbial road.

When (not if) there is a split, our Catholic conf. will already be in place: St. John's, G'Town, PC, SH, Nova, Marq., DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis and "Bishop" Butler.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.  
 
Wonder what my fellow posters think of the idea that The Big East should invite Xavier, Dayton, Butler and St. Louis into the conference sooner rather than later ??

I say this because I think it is inevitable that the football schools will break away from the non-football schools at some point.

If one agrees wih the aforementioned are we better off if we recruit these 4 schools now and not down the proverbial road.

When (not if) there is a split, our Catholic conf. will already be in place: St. John's, G'Town, PC, SH, Nova, Marq., DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis and "Bishop" Butler.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.  
Click to expand...
 

I would do this in a heartbeat. I have to say that St. Louis doesn't light me up, but there aren't many good alternatives. Detroit Mercy might be another option given its market and still relativley close proximity.

I would add that if there isn't already talk of something like this by the basketball schools and the new commissioner, then I'm with the guys who have already resigned themselves to jumping to the dark side and joining the ACC (or even the Big 10 if they would let non-football schools in). The Big East needs to react or we need to get out.
 
St. Louis is a pre-season Top 10 this year.

In addition, and another name to consider, is Ceighton.

Creighton, St. Louis, Detroit, DePaul, Marquette, and "Bishop" Butler in one conf.

St. John's, PC, SH, G'Town, Villanova, and Dayton in the other conf.

Not a bad 12 team league.

It's not The "old" Big East, but it isn't bad. 
 
Interesting that Vitale is he source for this thread. Lends more credence to theory that ESPN is behind the ACC ambush  
 
Wonder what my fellow posters think of the idea that The Big East should invite Xavier, Dayton, Butler and St. Louis into the conference sooner rather than later ??

I say this because I think it is inevitable that the football schools will break away from the non-football schools at some point.

If one agrees wih the aforementioned are we better off if we recruit these 4 schools now and not down the proverbial road.

When (not if) there is a split, our Catholic conf. will already be in place: St. John's, G'Town, PC, SH, Nova, Marq., DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis and "Bishop" Butler.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.  
Click to expand...
 

Since we are all basketball fans here and football does not share with the basketball schools, the proposed conference would be a decent conference but the reality is that is not the direction the Big East is going and is not the subject of television contract negotiations for the next 10 years at least. It is akin to wishful thinking.
Let us also remind ourselves that some of these basketball schools still field FSB football teams (Gtown, Villanova) so pure basketball conference it will not be.
As for a hybrid conference, the ACC has bought into the concept with the addition of ND so whatever works monetarily is what is acceptable in today's college athletics. Schools like ND, Boise, and many other schools split their hockey, lacrosse, soccer and a few other sports amongst different conferences.
Today Syracuse played another underwhelming football game against Stony Brook. Guess what conference SB plays in? It's geographic name would make many football fans think Stony Brook was located in South Carolina! LOL!
Nothing is as it seems anymore.
Some of us older fans do not worry as much about the Big East 10 years down the road. We just want to enjoy this new moment where we are finally a national recruiter and becoming a national school.
Life is too short to let a nine game sport of helmet-banging meatheads dominate our discussions on this basketball fan message board.
Carpe Diem!

So for the double post! No edits tonight?
 
Wonder what my fellow posters think of the idea that The Big East should invite Xavier, Dayton, Butler and St. Louis into the conference sooner rather than later ??

I say this because I think it is inevitable that the football schools will break away from the non-football schools at some point.

If one agrees wih the aforementioned are we better off if we recruit these 4 schools now and not down the proverbial road.

When (not if) there is a split, our Catholic conf. will already be in place: St. John's, G'Town, PC, SH, Nova, Marq., DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis and "Bishop" Butler.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.  
Click to expand...
 

Since we are all basketball fans here and football does not share with the basketball schools, the proposed conference would be a decent conference but the reality is that is not the direction the Big East is going and is not the subject of television contract negotiations for the next 10 years at least. It is akin to wishful thinking.
Let us also remind ourselves that some of these basketball schools still field FSB football teams (Gtown, Villanova) so pure basketball conference it will not be.
As for a hybrid conference, the ACC has bought into the concept with the addition of ND so whatever works monetarily is what is acceptable in today's college athletics. Schools like ND, Boise, and many other schools split their hockey, lacrosse, soccer and a few other sports amongst different conferences.
Today Syracuse played another underwhelming football game against Stony Brook. Guess what conference SB plays in? It's geographic name would make many football fans think Stony Brook was located in South Carolina! LOL!
Nothing is as it seems anymore.
Some of us older fans do not worry as much about the Big East 10 years down the road. We just want to enjoy this new moment where we are finally a national recruiter and becoming a national school.
Life is too short to let a nine game sport of helmet-banging meatheads dominate our discussions on this basketball fan message board.
 
This may get your "irish" up:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...endent-football-fightin-mad-article-1.1160425 
Click to expand...
 

LOL!
A "homer" article that says, in effect, the ACC is getting what the Big East got from ND plus 5 football games. Yes, the Big East always benefited from the ND brand association and that will be missed but where does ND benefit in the Olympic sports that it did not benefit in the Big East....especially basketball and soccer?
This was an egotistical move by ND and a great move by the ACC that keeps slipping into the bedroom while the Providence brain trust is sipping cocktails in San Diego.
The good news is we care more about St. John's basketball here than Notre Dame football or Pittsburgh hoops.
If St. John's succeeds with Lavin in NYC, all this bullcrapolla will be a distant memory as it became footnote when BC, Miami and Virginia Tech left to cash their ACC/ESPN checks.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top