Rick Pitino - Head Coach at St John’s University!!!

I am guilty of leading threads into crazy directions, but this is the nuttiest.

I have no idea what kind of trash talking this is, but it is stupid. Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley, et. al made an art of trash talking.

They would be embarrassed to call this trash talking.

Now, get back on topic.
 
Rocket said:
ESPN (@espn) tweeted at 6:07 PM on Sun, Apr 02, 2023:
ANGEL REESE HIT CAITLIN CLARK WITH THE "YOU CAN'T SEE ME" 👀 https://t.co/Zj3mqIzkk9


If you actually watched the games, the arguments used to defend the player on the National Champion team Reese hold no water.

WHY?
*Reese accused Clark of disrespecting members of her team as well as South Carolina players at a previous game.
- There is nothing shown during the game that validates Reese's accusation.
If dropping a shit load of points on LSU is disrespectful, then the whooping LSU gave South Carolina Carolina during the season by piling on the points in a 24 point win must be beyond disrespectful.

*Her LSU teammate Alexis Morris criticized the Iowa defense, saying she found the way they guarded South Carolina "disrespectful" and vowing to "take it personally" going into the final.
- in the Final Four against South Carolina, Clark is defending Gamecocks guard Raven Johnson on the perimeter. Johnson is open for a 3-pointer – she was 14-for-58 from distance this season (24.1%) – and Clark dismisses her with a wave of the hand. Note, THIS is the purported disrespectful way she defended a player 15 feet away from Clark.
Since when does how a team or player defend another team justification for unsportsmanlike conduct?

The DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO subosed slights?
* Clark doesn't pursue and taunt the opposing player of the losing team.
Reese does and whips out the race card as a defense.
America cheers Reese for her outspoken behavior.
Clark. who doesn't SPEAK to the opposing players, is the privileged National Player of the Year who gets the same heat.

If you don't see the difference in the above video then you enable bad post game sportsmanship in the men's game. It can't be OK with women but not OK with the men or vice-versa.

Next time a male player makes the TREY sign or raises his arms at the crowd while whooping the opposing team, let us know if we should apply equity standards.
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Who TF cares?! I sure don't care one way or the other.
 
MJDinkins said:
Who TF cares?! I sure don't care one way or the other.
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Neither do I and I have no clue why it is discussed, especially in the Rick Pitino thread. The only thing we should care about is that the LSU coach took over a total crap program and won close to 60 games in 2 years using the portal. As she said she has a team full of big personalities and some how she got them to play together. She took back a player she had kicked off her Baylor team years before who saw the light.
This gives me a ton of optimism that Coach Pitino can find 6-7 players in the next few weeks who fit his system and will buy into his vision. He has a great Center to build around as well as players 9 and 10 and hopefully we will get positive news re Gardner on Thursday. By Friday we may be in a much better place if Gardner stays on board and a guard or two commit. We have a ton of pt to give at the 1-4 positions.
 
redmannorth said:
Neither do I and I have no clue why it is discussed, especially in the Rick Pitino thread. The only thing we should care about is that the LSU coach took over a total crap program and won close to 60 games in 2 years using the portal. As she said she has a team full of big personalities and some how she got them to play together. She took back a player she had kicked off her Baylor team years before who saw the light.
This gives me a ton of optimism that Coach Pitino can find 6-7 players in the next few weeks who fit his system and will buy into his vision. He has a great Center to build around as well as players 9 and 10 and hopefully we will get positive news re Gardner on Thursday. By Friday we may be in a much better place if Gardner stays on board and a guard or two commit. We have a ton of pt to give at the 1-4 positions.
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Oh no. Not you too.

Paragraphs please. 😉
 
redmannorth said:
Neither do I and I have no clue why it is discussed, especially in the Rick Pitino thread. The only thing we should care about is that the LSU coach took over a total crap program and won close to 60 games in 2 years using the portal. As she said she has a team full of big personalities and some how she got them to play together. She took back a player she had kicked off her Baylor team years before who saw the light.
This gives me a ton of optimism that Coach Pitino can find 6-7 players in the next few weeks who fit his system and will buy into his vision. He has a great Center to build around as well as players 9 and 10 and hopefully we will get positive news re Gardner on Thursday. By Friday we may be in a much better place if Gardner stays on board and a guard or two commit. We have a ton of pt to give at the 1-4 positions.
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Well, it's nice to see you slowly come back to being optimistic about Rick Pitino completely overhauling a dysfunctional program by trying to do exactly what the LSU women's coach did with NINE new players.

That wasn't your position two weeks ago. When I suggested the need for a complete overhaul you questioned my "values".

The LSU thing was being discussed because someone brought up what the LSU coach accomplished in year two. The national media took a "gesture" and Stephen Smith made it a "national black-white" issue.
I don't know about Montreal but it, the gesture, made more news than the basketball game. The topic should have been separated into its own thread somewhere else.
Safe to say from all the usual suspects in the sports world, it became an issue only because the Iowa team was basically five white girls playing against 5 black girls. The lines were drawn by so-called fans from the tip and there are dozens of ops about why and what happened.
The only person not shooting off their mouth is Caitlin Clark who said "
I don't think Angel should be criticized at all," Clark said. "No matter which way it goes, she should never be criticized for what she did," the Iowa star said after Reese, 20, was heavily criticized for taunting during Sunday's title game, which LSU ultimately won 102-85.
Clark continued, "I think everybody knew there was gonna be a little trash talk in the entire tournament," Clark explained. "It's not just me and Angel."

Some claim that they don't give a .......sure!

That the championship was tainted by comments like " girls that look like me", and the subsequent delineation of opinions based on race is disgusting.

Now, let's not discuss the nickname of the program or mascot or any of 4 other off topic senior moments and actually get back on the Pitino bandwagon because this took six coaches to get to finally hiring a coach with proven credibility.
 
Rocket said:
Sorry but then you clearly miss the difference.
It has nothing to do with plain Ole trash talking during a game. This was at the end of the game and during the lining up to shake hands.
In a "men's" what Reese did warrants a warning and if the stalking continues, grounds for a technical.
You guys are acting like college guys watching a cat fight and think it's part of the game.
It's not.
If you pursue a player with verbal or physical taunts, it is a technical.
Much different than flashing your hand in the "flavor of the week" gesture.
I don’t even appreciate our players use of the TREY SIGN when they were getting their asses kicked by Creighton and Xavier.
I'm done with the girls.

Now, back to Rick Pitino cleaning house here which has been long overdue.

We got so used to mediocrity that some wanted the same mediocre players back to transform into superheroes.

On with the reorganization.
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You missed the fact that there is no difference. It’s bad sportsmanship period no matter what degree it goes to.

I am sure Pitino will not stand for such actions and behavior by his players as evidence by his press conference statements and subsequent comments in interviews.
 
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SJU85 said:
You missed the fact that there is no difference. It’s bad sportsmanship period no matter what degree it goes to.

I am sure Pitino will not stand for such actions and behavior by his players as evidence by his press conference statements and subsequent comments in interviews.
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LOL!
That's rich considering why Louisville used certain "behavior" as cause to fire Rick Pitino.
As evident from his press conference statements, some fans were betwixted, bothered and bewildered when coach Pitino made reference to changing the "culture" of St. John's basketball and went so far as saying that he would need 6 to 8 new players to do so.
Initially, those who agreed were branded as throwing our children aside who shed blood, sweat and tears for St. John's and our dear alma mater.
Then a miraculous lightbulb went off and we finally figured it out.
Our loyal players and sons of St. John's are just like the other 1,000 student athletes (?) in the transfer porta potty. They are all chasing the same shit........the almighty DOLLAR.
 
Rocket said:
LOL!
That's rich considering why Louisville used certain "behavior" as cause to fire Rick Pitino.
As evident from his press conference statements, some fans were betwixted, bothered and bewildered when coach Pitino made reference to changing the "culture" of St. John's basketball and went so far as saying that he would need 6 to 8 new players to do so.
Initially, those who agreed were branded as throwing our children aside who shed blood, sweat and tears for St. John's and our dear alma mater.
Then a miraculous lightbulb went off and we finally figured it out.
Our loyal players and sons of St. John's are just like the other 1,000 student athletes (?) in the transfer porta potty. They are all chasing the same shit........the almighty DOLLAR.
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???

Again lumping everyone into one basket. Outside of posting Rick Pitino is the coach and will want his on players, posting I hoped Traore would stay, posting I was happy that Soriano is coming back, and posting I wish the players leaving luck, the above has nothing to do with me and barely to the response you are replying to.

This thread has been derailed enough.
 
Age and perspective have made this transition time less anxiety ridden than at anytime in the previous 20+ year of transitions. Don't get me wrong, I want to know Rick's plans and which players we will have right now, but at the same time I am mentally just chill. This is a HoF coach who knows how to build and run a program. He's had one losing season (I am not counting the 2-4 Hawaii season) in 34 years.
I see a little "sky is falling" commentary popping up. Relax people, if we can survive 5 straight coaches who were not Xs and Ox experts, we will survive this rebuild time with one who is, and come out stronger on the other side. And if not...well I refuse to think of that right now.
 
SJU85 said:
???

Again lumping everyone into one basket. Outside of posting Rick Pitino is the coach and will want his on players, posting I hoped Traore would stay, posting I was happy that Soriano is coming back, and posting I wish the players leaving luck, the above has nothing to do with me and barely to the response you are replying to.

This thread has been derailed enough.
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You are 100% correct!
The thread went off topic because fans are anxious.
This is a case of no news is not good news.😉

SJ fans are prone to argue amongst themselves when anxious to the point of
 
Damn, Luv that clip, JohnnyFan! Thanks,
We are in for some fun times.
Just are...it's gonna happen.
This guy is 'real'.
And, if he got to those guys, he'll 'get to' college players.
 
Wolfie said:
Damn, Luv that clip, JohnnyFan! Thanks,
We are in for some fun times.
Just are...it's gonna happen.
This guy is 'real'.
And, if he got to those guys, he'll 'get to' college players.
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Are you sure? After seeing that clip I’m a bit concerned. There was no “Let’s make it a rock fight” admonition. 🤪
 
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