Recruiting/ Cal
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Lottery is for the first three picks. As I understand it, of the teams that don't make the playoffs, the worse your record, the more balls you get and the higher chance you have of getting one of those three picks. I believe the first 14 picks go to the non playoff teams unless they've traded those rights. So hypothetically you tank to not make the playoffs and you tank really bad if you want to increase your shot at a lottery pick.
First you're kind of correct but the lottery are all the teams with balls in the cage, the first three are just the lottery winners. And I understand all that but the worst team in the playoffs gets the 15th pick. In a very deep draft, and it looks like there will be quality into the 2nd round if prognosticators are correct, I just don't see the benefit. It's a deep draft, not a top heavy one. There's no Anthony Davis/Lebron/Yao/Dwight/etc.... I was suggesting that while Wiggins may be great, hard to say since he hasn't played a game and isn't necessarily a dominating physical specimen, are he and Parker and the KY guys definitely going to be a better NBA players than some of the guys projected to go 10-20 like Selden, Harris, McGary and Isiaih Austin (who coincidentally - or not - was one of last year's few "can't miss" NBA prospects along with Shabazz Muhammad, Noel and Kyle, and we all know how that worked out)? I don't think so.
The lottery is supposed to keep people from tanking of course. But in order to guarantee a top 5 pick you have to be one of the two worst teams. That's a large price to pay if you're not really that bad. As a season ticket holder/fan I'd be pissed if my team had a chance for the last playoff spot and instead forced itself to lose 60 games.
The following were perennial all stars before playing their first college game the past few years (as well as the four from last year mentioned above): Austin Rivers, Bradley Beal, Quincy Miller, Harrison Barnes, Xavier Henry, Jrue HOliday, Samardo Samuels, etc, etc, etc) Tanking a season for guys who are not head and shoulders above the others physically and who haven't played a game against real competition yet is a fool's quest IMVHO. Then again, it's NBA execs we're talking about so if the dunce cap fits . . .
That national championship team actually had SR Josh Harrellson (drafted), SR Eloy Vargas, SR Darius Miller (drafted), JR Jon Hood (and a few other upperclassmen walkon or walkon types that didn't play much). The year before they had Deandre Liggins. At Memphis, Cal's 2008 Final Four team had JR Robert Dozier (drafted) SR Joey Dorsey (drafted) JR Antonio Anderson (made Bobcats for a bit) and JR Chris Douglas-Roberts (drafted). Those were all starters. SR Andre Allen played a big role off the bench. They also had a guy named Derrick Rose.
It think UK's haul is ridiculous, but as good as they are, they don't have a kid that is just insane like Rose, Davis, or even Wall.
I mixed up Harrellson's grad year...you are correct. The team still had a drafted senior that played huge minutes his wole career in Darius Miller. Vargas was also part of the very short rotation, and, as you and I clearly agree, Davis was a monster. There is no Davis this year. I don't think they have a chance to win it all.
Understood Paul, but take a stance. Do you agree with me or not? I need to know!
I agree in spades. It's all crazy. Pretty much everything about the elite pro leagues (NBA, NFL, MLB) is insane. The arenas should say Barnum & Bailey instead of NBA or NFL... I'd like to see kids stay in school 4 years regardless but yes I know that is not realistic. I understand the mandate and the logic but I do think that they end up missing out on some things as human beings that the money could never replace. Considering how many pro athletes quickly go broke, that might not even be such a strong argument. Personally as a 22 year old I was a largely clueless dumbass. As an 18 year old I was a completely clueless dumbass. Those 4 years made a big difference.