Questions/Concerns about this team..

[paultzman]

So a few games in, I’m going with the notion that Aaron Wheeler is purely a perimeter player (or at least thinks he is) and will give us little to no inside help.

Am I wrong?


 

No

 

[L J S A]

So a few games in, I’m going with the notion that Aaron Wheeler is purely a perimeter player (or at least thinks he is) and will give us little to no inside help.

Am I wrong?



 

No

Maybe he really does look like a world beater in preseason practices, but 6 and 4 is the best he'll ever be for us, and I suspect that 6 will drop closer to his career average once Big East play starts. He can play at this level and be useful, but he'll never be a stud. We are digging our own grave if we send him out there with other guys who don't rebound or play aggressively, though.

 

[monte]

So a few games in, I’m going with the notion that Aaron Wheeler is purely a perimeter player (or at least thinks he is) and will give us little to no inside help.

Am I wrong?




 

No

Maybe he really does look like a world beater in preseason practices, but 6 and 4 is the best he'll ever be for us, and I suspect that 6 will drop closer to his career average once Big East play starts. He can play at this level and be useful, but he'll never be a stud. We are digging our own grave if we send him out there with other guys who don't rebound or play aggressively, though.

I know the term "junkyard" or "junkpail" or "lunchpail"'or something like that,  is used to describe the guys who bang down low and do the dirty work. We need someone like that. I like Soriano, and he'll contribute , but he'll need a lot of help. 

 

[MarkRedman]

That's what this team lacks - a junkyard dog who can battle inside on offense and defense. After a handful of games, it appears that Soriano is willing but very limited. He will hold his own against average guys but I don't think he will hold up against highly skilled inside players. I had never seen Wheeler play before this season and had high hopes for him, but he is clearly a perimeter player who looks like he might be able to play inside.

Two guys who have some toughness are Wusu and Mathis. Montez is not afraid to mix it up and is a good slasher who will take it to the hoop and is a pretty good rebounder. Having seen most of the Rutgers games the past two years, I can tell you that he is not a consistent outside shooter. If he stays in his lane and does what he does best, he will be a valuable addition. If he starts to stray outside too much, he becomes a bit of a liability.

Our ability to rebound and defend inside will largely determine how far this team can go this year. We don't have one guy we can depend upon to do this. It will take a full team effort to get the job done.

 

[RedStormNC]

I think we're gonna need Stanley to play 10 min a game even if he picks up 5 fouls...

Wonder what Traore would have delivered on defense this year.

 

[usguard]

I haven’t seen the stats but it does not appear that there has been much improvement in WUSU shot

 

[RedStormNC]

I haven’t seen the stats but it does not appear that there has been much improvement in WUSU shot

he's at 50% from 3... 5 of 10.

[URL]https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dylan-addae-wusu-1.html[/URL]

 

[monte]

I think we're gonna need Stanley to play 10 min a game even if he picks up 5 fouls...

Wonder what Traore would have delivered on defense this year.

I like Stanley, but tough to absorb a stat line of 0 Pts 1 Board 0 blocks and 5 fouls regularly. He hasn't scored the last 3 games, and other then hustle, has given us nothing else. I like the Traore idea. What do we have to loose? 

 

[Windy City Johnny Fan]

I think we're gonna need Stanley to play 10 min a game even if he picks up 5 fouls...

Wonder what Traore would have delivered on defense this year.

I like Stanley, but tough to absorb a stat line of 0 Pts 1 Board 0 blocks and 5 fouls regularly. He hasn't scored the last 3 games, and other then hustle, has given us nothing else. I like the Traore idea. What do we have to loose? 

Why not give Nyiwe some burn against NJIT to see what we have?   Perhaps he’s a really bad practice player, but not sure what the point of him was if we aren’t throwing him out there against these kenpom 300+ teams, particularly when the other bigs haven’t shown much.  If nothing else, I feel like his size and athleticism could be disruptive

 

[prjohnnies]

Have no issue with Wheeler being more of a perimeter player in the half court if he can still help on the boards, defensively with the press and in transition.  We need him and Soriano to player better on the glass and interior.  Not world beaters, just better.

I don't see Cole when I watch Coburn.  I think Coburn is better.

Pinzon is the backup PG from what I've seen.

 

[boo haarvey]

Have no issue with Wheeler being more of a perimeter player in the half court if he can still help on the boards, defensively with the press and in transition.  We need him and Soriano to player better on the glass and interior.  Not world beaters, just better.

I don't see Cole when I watch Coburn.  I think Coburn is better.

Pinzon is the backup PG from what I've seen.

Agree on Coburn and Pinzon
 

 

[rehobie]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

 

[Mean Gene]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

 

[beast of the east]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

More than anything, suffocating defense is effort.   Not standing and watching a shot as it goes up, and instead putting a body on the man closest to you is paramount to not allowing second shots.    Part of that is stamina, and having guys trust the staff enough to ask for a quick blow when winded.   We have enough depth for a lot of guys to play 25 minutes and feel like they played 45.    Even in schoolyard full court, boxing out helps immensely.  Posh is the key to our defense, but basically with CMA the rule should be is that if you don't bust it on D you sit.

 

[monte]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

More than anything, suffocating defense is effort.   Not standing and watching a shot as it goes up, and instead putting a body on the man closest to you is paramount to not allowing second shots.    Part of that is stamina, and having guys trust the staff enough to ask for a quick blow when winded.   We have enough depth for a lot of guys to play 25 minutes and feel like they played 45.    Even in schoolyard full court, boxing out helps immensely.  Posh is the key to our defense, but basically with CMA the rule should be is that if you don't bust it on D you sit.

No only does CMA's  defensive system  take a deep bench and players with stamina, it relies on a certain level of athleticism. I'm don't believe we have too many players who have the athleticism to be highly effective in his system. And if posh is not on the floor, the system takes a real hit. So maybe some sort of adjustment to the system needs to happen, for 2 reasons:
-all the newcomers 
-not having the athletes 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

More than anything, suffocating defense is effort.   Not standing and watching a shot as it goes up, and instead putting a body on the man closest to you is paramount to not allowing second shots.    Part of that is stamina, and having guys trust the staff enough to ask for a quick blow when winded.   We have enough depth for a lot of guys to play 25 minutes and feel like they played 45.    Even in schoolyard full court, boxing out helps immensely.  Posh is the key to our defense, but basically with CMA the rule should be is that if you don't bust it on D you sit.

No only does CMA's  defensive system  take a deep bench and players with stamina, it relies on a certain level of athleticism. I'm don't believe have too many players who have the athleticism to be highly effective in his system. And if posh is not on the floor, the system takes a real hit. So maybe some sort of adjustment to the system needs to happen, for 2 reasons:
-all the newcomers 
-not having the athletes 

Your man Dunn’s defensive work in the press is missed.

 

[monte]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

More than anything, suffocating defense is effort.   Not standing and watching a shot as it goes up, and instead putting a body on the man closest to you is paramount to not allowing second shots.    Part of that is stamina, and having guys trust the staff enough to ask for a quick blow when winded.   We have enough depth for a lot of guys to play 25 minutes and feel like they played 45.    Even in schoolyard full court, boxing out helps immensely.  Posh is the key to our defense, but basically with CMA the rule should be is that if you don't bust it on D you sit.

No only does CMA's  defensive system  take a deep bench and players with stamina, it relies on a certain level of athleticism. I'm don't believe have too many players who have the athleticism to be highly effective in his system. And if posh is not on the floor, the system takes a real hit. So maybe some sort of adjustment to the system needs to happen, for 2 reasons:
-all the newcomers 
-not having the athletes 

Your man Dunn’s defensive work in the press is missed.

Glad you said it. I would have gotten crucified for saying it lol. I also miss his ball handling, especially his bringing the ball up. 

 

[Ray Morgan]

I’m concerned about our switching man to man.  In many cases the guy who has given up primary responsibility doesn’t know who he has to box out on the shot,  thus giving up inside positioning on the shot.  I believe this is a big reason for us giving up second shots and sub par rebounding.

I agree Rehobie. It’s all part of CMA’s complex defensive system. That’s the only thing that concerns me about having him as our coach. We can’t have a situation where every year it takes the team 15 games before they begin to feel comfortable playing in his system. It’s puts us behind the 8 ball every year.

It's the  enormous turnover  in personnel that makes playing a complex system more problematic. It will be the same issue next season.  Team will lose 65-70% of their productivity. So that has to be replaced by new players learning a system they never played. That's a best case scenario if there are no surprise transfers. Makes  success this year very important. 

 

[usguard]

Agree,thought we would be get a lot more from him.Looking at his stats I can see his mins declining.

 

[bucketshardy]

Something I have noticed a couple times - and I really hope I’m being paranoid, but for as much as coaches/players preached “we are a family” in the preseason….I don’t know what families they have, but not seeing what I consider “family” actions. A couple times when players hit the floor after a fouls, I would expect guys to rush over to said player and help him up- haven’t seen that. 

a couple posters mentioned, at this juncture, seems more a collection of individuals than a true team.

this clip SJU Twitter just posted I think speaks volumes… Joel makes a huge and1 hook shot at a critical point of the game…why is no one chest bumping him?

https://twitter.com/stjohnsbball/status/1464975726088753155?s=21

tell me I’m seeing something that isn’t there…