(PRE-GAME) Providence, Wed. Feb. 12, 8:30p, CBS SN / 570 WMCA

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[quote="usguard" post=376628]We have a lot of players on this team that would be at best bench players on most BE teams it we do not or are unable to get we will stay at the bottom[/quote]

Yup...it takes at least 4 star kids regularly to have a good shot of being a top 25 team regularly making tourneys. It takes a great coach plus the 4 and 5 star kids to be a blue blood. Rankings aren't everything, but if they totally did not matter, sites like Rivals wouldn't exist and no one would be ranking recruiting classes. If we only recruit JUCO's for the most part, we will never be rated highly in recruiting classes. Yes they're physically more mature, but they should be patching a few holes in rosters, not be the lifeblood of your team. If that continues, so will the basement dwelling guaranteed.
 
[quote="Monte" post=376639][quote="RedmanMike" post=376588]Do you guys remember Lavor Postell? He was a very good player for us, and a leader on the first two Jarvis teams that were so good. He was an unheralded recruit (by Mahoney, originally) and in his freshman year he averaged 5.6 ppg, 3.3rpg, and 2.2apg on Fraschilla's first team that went 13-14. Nothing overwhelming, but he showed some flashes. I think Champ could end up having a career like Postell had. His freshman year is better statistically, and he seems to have that head-down, nose-to-the-grindstone attitude that Postell had. And he has a nose for the ball like Postell had.[/quote]

Thought he was recruited by Fran and thought he was a top 75-100 kid. Fran brought in so much high ranked talented that Postell almost seemed like an afterthought, but if I remember correctly he was highly thought of coming out of high school. Granted it took him a few years to get going, much like SirDom.[/quote]
Mahoney recruit
 
[quote="Monte" post=376639][quote="RedmanMike" post=376588]Do you guys remember Lavor Postell? He was a very good player for us, and a leader on the first two Jarvis teams that were so good. He was an unheralded recruit (by Mahoney, originally) and in his freshman year he averaged 5.6 ppg, 3.3rpg, and 2.2apg on Fraschilla's first team that went 13-14. Nothing overwhelming, but he showed some flashes. I think Champ could end up having a career like Postell had. His freshman year is better statistically, and he seems to have that head-down, nose-to-the-grindstone attitude that Postell had. And he has a nose for the ball like Postell had.[/quote]

Thought he was recruited by Fran and thought he was a top 75-100 kid. Fran brought in so much high ranked talented that Postell almost seemed like an afterthought, but if I remember correctly he was highly thought of coming out of high school. Granted it took him a few years to get going, much like SirDom.[/quote]

Postell was a Mahoney commit. He played under Fraschilla because, of course, Mahoney was fired. Postell was also a top 40 recruit out of HS.

Actually, Postell got things going around December of his sophomore season. I vividly recall a game at Notre Dame where he stepped up and came up with big play after big play when we needed it. It was his breakout game, and he ended up with 21 points, if my memory serves me correctly, in a big win in South Bend. His play that particular game kinda surprised me, and from that point forward Postell's game continued to grow.

He and Artest became my favorite players during the '97-'98 season. It didn't take Postell long to start becoming a factor.
 
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MJDinkins wrote: Postell was a Mahoney commit. He played under Fraschilla because, of course, Mahoney was fired. Postell was also a top 40 recruit out of HS.

Actually, Postell got things going around December of his sophomore season. I vividly recall a game at Notre Dame where he stepped up and came up with big play after big play when we needed it. It was his breakout game, and he ended up with 21 points, if my memory serves me correctly, in a big win in South Bend. His play that particular game kinda surprised me, and from that point forward Postell's game continued to grow.

He and Artest became my favorite players during the '97-'98 season. It didn't take Postell long to start becoming a factor.

Excellent memory Dink, much better than mine lol. Postell was probably my favorite player on that team although with that terrific starting five it was hard to choose one favorite. Those were the days my friend as the song goes.
 
Im excited to see what we get out of the duke tonight. I am assuming coach mike is going to give him a shot at starting. Hes earned it.

Could another 20 point performance be in the cards for marcellus tonight?
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=376641]Would like to see us play mostly a seven man rotation tonight of Figgy, Champ, Dunn, Williams, Earlington, Roberts and Rutherford and press the heck out of PC. Use Sears in very limited minutes against the PC bigs and Caraher to take open threes against the zone they will no doubt throw at us. We can beat PC if we play with a high level of energy, turn them over and make them shoot from the outside.[/quote]

While I like your 7 man rotation, I believe that Sears is really not a BE caliber player and should only play if absolutely needed. While he hustles and plays aggressively, I have my doubts about Caraher as well.

While this game is winnable, I am worried about PC's inside game. It may prove to be our undoing. Hopefully, we will be up to the challenge.

GO JOHNNIES!!!
 
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=376657]Im excited to see what we get out of the duke tonight. I am assuming coach mike is going to give him a shot at starting. Hes earned it.

Could another 20 point performance be in the cards for marcellus tonight?[/quote]

I've said all along that Duke reminds me of Anthony Glover
 
I believe the absence of Heron should change our offensive strategy.
Heron was one of the few who had a decent outside shot. I expect to see a lot more zone and challenge us to make threes.
Wondering where the points are going to come from. Williams is a reluctant shooter. Can we play two non shooters at the guard position at the same time?

Looks to me we have to go inside. Can only throw oops to Roberts, so it looks like Champs and Duke are our options. LJ is our outside hope, but I am never satisfied with his shot selection ... even when they go in.
Dunn will have drive and be successful or we will be toast.
As I see it those are our chances.
 
MarkRedman wrote: While I like your 7 man rotation, I believe that Sears is really not a BE caliber player and should only play if absolutely needed. While he hustles and plays aggressively, I have my doubts about Caraher as well.

MR, agree on Sears but was suggesting he might be needed against PC's big men for minor minutes especially if Roberts and/or Earlington have foul trouble. As for Caraher, since we just lost our best spot up 3 point shooter and we will absolutely face a lot of zone, I think he may be useful tonight if he can hit a few open threes.
 
[quote="usguard" post=376628]We have a lot of players on this team that would be at best bench players on most BE teams it we do not or are unable to get we will stay at the bottom[/quote]

There are what...2 guys on this team that this staff brought in who weren't emergency transfer fill-ins? And one of them is out the whole year after shoulder surgery. After they were hired they had what, 2-3 weeks to recruit for the 2019-2020 class, 95+% of which had already signed with other programs?

It takes time to turn an aircraft carrier around, especially one as badly damaged as our program was when they arrived.

Next year you have a core of their guys:
Champanie
McGriff
Dunn
Cole
Posh
Wusu
Moore

If you keep Williams, Roberts, Earlington and possibly Figeroa you have an exciting nucleus with a mix of under and upper classmen... All with skill sets that play to this staff's style. That's a very different scenario than where we are this year.

Nobody was going to come in here and make this team an NCAA tournament team without a huge amount of good fortune. Being down about this staff not being able to pull of the (nearly) impossible makes no sense for any of us.
 
[quote="Monte" post=376639][quote="RedmanMike" post=376588]Do you guys remember Lavor Postell? He was a very good player for us, and a leader on the first two Jarvis teams that were so good. He was an unheralded recruit (by Mahoney, originally) and in his freshman year he averaged 5.6 ppg, 3.3rpg, and 2.2apg on Fraschilla's first team that went 13-14. Nothing overwhelming, but he showed some flashes. I think Champ could end up having a career like Postell had. His freshman year is better statistically, and he seems to have that head-down, nose-to-the-grindstone attitude that Postell had. And he has a nose for the ball like Postell had.[/quote]

Thought he was recruited by Fran and thought he was a top 75-100 kid. Fran brought in so much high ranked talented that Postell almost seemed like an afterthought, but if I remember correctly he was highly thought of coming out of high school. Granted it took him a few years to get going, much like SirDom.[/quote]

Yes a Fran recruit Averaged 10 and 5 as a soph on a team dominated by Felipe, Zendon and Metta. Was alwasy on a team with at least 2 other NBA guys and/or to 25 recruits who were more ball or shot dominant. Came out of HS a couple years before RSCI started doing consensus rankings but I do recall him being a bottom quarter top 100, however Clark Francis had him in his top 25 [URL]https://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/top100classof1996.html.[/URL] Played 3 years for the Knicks as a reserve before heading overseas.


As others have pointed out before I posted this I guess he signed before Mahoney was fired, which makes sense. Knew he played as a frosh for Fran.
 
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Watching Butler Xavier SH Creighton how nice it is to have shooters just shows how we stick out like a sore thumb offensively Nithing we can do this yr
 
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