(PRE-GAME) #8/#10 Villanova (MSG) Tues. Jan. 28, 6:30p, FS-1 / 570 AM
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JohnnyFever
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=374460]Had a good feeling we'd beat or at least give Seton Hall a really good game at MSG and we did. Do not have the same great feeling about this one. Might need to get a bit lucky tomorrow night and hope Nova bricks some 3s they usually make.
I just do not love the matchup here. Hope I am wrong[/quote]
I think our style of defense makes us especially susceptible to wide open 3's and what is Nova? A great 3 point shooting team. If we win it will be because either A) we turned them over a ton and dominated boards or B) they had an awful day from 3. The 3 point shot is the great equalizer. The big downside is many teams tend to be quite streaky and if you rely on them almost completely, eventually you have your off days just by luck. Scoring in the paint and playing hard defense always transfers game to game if you have the right guys.
I just do not love the matchup here. Hope I am wrong[/quote]
I think our style of defense makes us especially susceptible to wide open 3's and what is Nova? A great 3 point shooting team. If we win it will be because either A) we turned them over a ton and dominated boards or B) they had an awful day from 3. The 3 point shot is the great equalizer. The big downside is many teams tend to be quite streaky and if you rely on them almost completely, eventually you have your off days just by luck. Scoring in the paint and playing hard defense always transfers game to game if you have the right guys.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=374532][quote="Jack Williams" post=374460]Had a good feeling we'd beat or at least give Seton Hall a really good game at MSG and we did. Do not have the same great feeling about this one. Might need to get a bit lucky tomorrow night and hope Nova bricks some 3s they usually make.
I just do not love the matchup here. Hope I am wrong[/quote]
I think our style of defense makes us especially susceptible to wide open 3's and what is Nova? A great 3 point shooting team. If we win it will be because either A) we turned them over a ton and dominated boards or B) they had an awful day from 3. The 3 point shot is the great equalizer. The big downside is many teams tend to be quite streaky and if you rely on them almost completely, eventually you have your off days just by luck. Scoring in the paint and playing hard defense always transfers game to game if you have the right guys.[/quote]
Actually Nova statistically isn’t a “great shooting team” from the outside. They’re 5th in the Big East in 3pt % at about 35%. It’s solid but not amazing. We also rank 7th in the Big East in 3pt% defense, while not tops in the league is not awful considering our pressure which ranked 3rd overall in FG% defense.
I just do not love the matchup here. Hope I am wrong[/quote]
I think our style of defense makes us especially susceptible to wide open 3's and what is Nova? A great 3 point shooting team. If we win it will be because either A) we turned them over a ton and dominated boards or B) they had an awful day from 3. The 3 point shot is the great equalizer. The big downside is many teams tend to be quite streaky and if you rely on them almost completely, eventually you have your off days just by luck. Scoring in the paint and playing hard defense always transfers game to game if you have the right guys.[/quote]
Actually Nova statistically isn’t a “great shooting team” from the outside. They’re 5th in the Big East in 3pt % at about 35%. It’s solid but not amazing. We also rank 7th in the Big East in 3pt% defense, while not tops in the league is not awful considering our pressure which ranked 3rd overall in FG% defense.
SJU14
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[quote="Mean Gene" post=374500]I think the main key to tomorrow nights game is to pressure Gillespie into turning the ball over. I’ve seen him get rattled in earlier games with pressure. Rutherford and Dunn will be key on D tomorrow.[/quote]
Imperative that Rutherford and LJ don’t pick up a foul each in the first minute of this game.
Imperative that Rutherford and LJ don’t pick up a foul each in the first minute of this game.
Unfortunately I will miss tonight's game. Taking a continuing ed course in Davidson on the Electoral College; tonight the professor is dissecting the five presidential elections where Electoral College and popular vote diverged. Too interesting for a political geek like me to miss, lol.
Will be a tough one for us to win imho. Nova has lost 3 times and in 2 of those 3 losses they shot only 5 and 7 free throws (other loss was to Baylor and that was just a close one where both teams played well). They are #1 in BE in FT shooting and cannot send them to the line a lot and hope to beat them. We usually send the opponent to the line a lot, not to mention that Nova tends to get a friendly whistle even at MSG. Interestingly, they weren't out rebounded in any of their 3 losses.
One clear advantage we have is depth. Nova tends to play 7 guys and if Samuel is out that will be only 6 available who typically get significant minutes. Maybe if we can apply pressure while avoiding too much fouling and get continued good play from LJ & Mustapha we can pull it out. Would love to come home to a pleasant surprise.
Will be a tough one for us to win imho. Nova has lost 3 times and in 2 of those 3 losses they shot only 5 and 7 free throws (other loss was to Baylor and that was just a close one where both teams played well). They are #1 in BE in FT shooting and cannot send them to the line a lot and hope to beat them. We usually send the opponent to the line a lot, not to mention that Nova tends to get a friendly whistle even at MSG. Interestingly, they weren't out rebounded in any of their 3 losses.
One clear advantage we have is depth. Nova tends to play 7 guys and if Samuel is out that will be only 6 available who typically get significant minutes. Maybe if we can apply pressure while avoiding too much fouling and get continued good play from LJ & Mustapha we can pull it out. Would love to come home to a pleasant surprise.
beast of the east
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I laugh when the prevailing sentiment goes from "we may not win another game" to counting wins over the next 5 games. They are the same team, who just played the other worst team in the league (now officially the worst team in the league) and got a career game from Figueroa, a solid game from Heron and Dunn, and no one else could throw it in the ocean.
We cannot expect LJ to light it up like that every night, or maybe any night. It will take a lot more to beat Villanova, but I agree they are beatable. Saturday at DePaul wasn't our "A" game, and perhaps the Seton Hall game was more indicative of the grit and effort it will take to beat Nova.
We cannot expect LJ to light it up like that every night, or maybe any night. It will take a lot more to beat Villanova, but I agree they are beatable. Saturday at DePaul wasn't our "A" game, and perhaps the Seton Hall game was more indicative of the grit and effort it will take to beat Nova.
ManhattAn1
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Nova had an extremely physical contest with providence Saturday. Hopefully there is some carryover effect into tonight
STJ11Redmen
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[quote="Manhattan1" post=374543]Nova had an extremely physical contest with providence Saturday. Hopefully there is some carryover effect into tonight[/quote]
According to Jon Rothstein, Jermaine Saumel is a game time decision as a result of an injury from that game.
According to Jon Rothstein, Jermaine Saumel is a game time decision as a result of an injury from that game.
Based on our performances to date, as well as Nova's, we can clearly compete tonight, unless we come out like we did against the Hoyas. It would be a great win of we could pull it off, but can't count on it. Let's hope we get a lift form the Garden and continue to get good performances like against DePaul.
There is no reason to believe that both LJ's and MH's worst days this year are behind them. Hopefully we will see more consistent good play form them each game, and that will make us competitive most nights.
There is no reason to believe that both LJ's and MH's worst days this year are behind them. Hopefully we will see more consistent good play form them each game, and that will make us competitive most nights.
I am afraid of this game as I have watched Villanova a lot and though young they are very talented. I am not a Gillespie fan, but he is another in a recent line of point guards that play better than you would ever guess. Let's play great D, don't let their 3 point shooters open and ride the Garden crowd to a victory, we've beaten better Nova teams in the past.
Like Maher says-- Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens, so let's send them home drunk and unhappy.
Like Maher says-- Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens, so let's send them home drunk and unhappy.
greatnecker
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[quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=374556]
Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens[/quote]
I don't think that is true at all. St John's is the Koala Bear of the Big East. Perhaps the soon-to-be conference member UConn clan will feel differently? Otherwise, SJU is the most universally liked school in the entire BEC.
Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens[/quote]
I don't think that is true at all. St John's is the Koala Bear of the Big East. Perhaps the soon-to-be conference member UConn clan will feel differently? Otherwise, SJU is the most universally liked school in the entire BEC.
[quote="greatnecker" post=374558][quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=374556]
Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens[/quote]
I don't think that is true at all. St John's is the Koala Bear of the Big East. Perhaps the soon-to-be conference member UConn clan will feel differently? Otherwise, SJU is the most universally liked school in the entire BEC.[/quote]
Really? I have not gotten that sense during my years of going to games and also lurking around other teams message boards before they play us. A lot of people hated us and I mean HATED us during the Harrison years. Mellowed out a little now
Nova fans like their drinks, and like to feel above us blue collar kids from that commuter school in Queens[/quote]
I don't think that is true at all. St John's is the Koala Bear of the Big East. Perhaps the soon-to-be conference member UConn clan will feel differently? Otherwise, SJU is the most universally liked school in the entire BEC.[/quote]
Really? I have not gotten that sense during my years of going to games and also lurking around other teams message boards before they play us. A lot of people hated us and I mean HATED us during the Harrison years. Mellowed out a little now
[quote="CMA TIME" post=374565]Up to 3.5[/quote]
As most surmise this seems low but it could be such because of the unknown Samuels factor. Team that controls tempo, wins.
As most surmise this seems low but it could be such because of the unknown Samuels factor. Team that controls tempo, wins.
Mullins Revenge
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If we lay off the double teams and not give up wide open 3s, we win.
If we play the same defense that we did against marquette and leave guys wide open behind the arc, we will lose by double digits.
If we play the same defense that we did against marquette and leave guys wide open behind the arc, we will lose by double digits.
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