(POST GAME) @Xavier, Wed., Feb. 16, 6:30p, CBSSN
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More turnover. Starting 5 for Creighton last year against SJU: Jefferson, Bishop, Ballock, Mahoney and Mitchell.
Starting 5 for Creighton this year: Hawkins, Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard and O'Connell.
In other words Creighton lost all 5 starters off of last year's team. In addition they lost the best recruit to ever sign with Creighton, TyTy Washington. Would've probably been pre-season BE Rookie of the year. Current starting PG for Kentucky.
That is pretty significant turnover from year to year no?
In a perfect world there would be no COVID and no injuries. But they are part of the game. SJU biggest problem is not enough good players. They have some parts but they need better players to compete and win at the top. I think it is more than possible to do that.
But look they have a chance to salvage this season. They have to get to 10 wins minimum which means they will have to get the sweep of Xavier(now possible) and get the Marquette game. They need those 3 for quality.
Starting 5 for Creighton this year: Hawkins, Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard and O'Connell.
In other words Creighton lost all 5 starters off of last year's team. In addition they lost the best recruit to ever sign with Creighton, TyTy Washington. Would've probably been pre-season BE Rookie of the year. Current starting PG for Kentucky.
That is pretty significant turnover from year to year no?
In a perfect world there would be no COVID and no injuries. But they are part of the game. SJU biggest problem is not enough good players. They have some parts but they need better players to compete and win at the top. I think it is more than possible to do that.
But look they have a chance to salvage this season. They have to get to 10 wins minimum which means they will have to get the sweep of Xavier(now possible) and get the Marquette game. They need those 3 for quality.
Fordham , question wasn’t Zegarowski still on that Creighton Team ? If so , wouldn’t he have started ? I know he was injured the year before but, returned last year . Just asking .
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In terms of the COVID excuse, that's nonsense. I don't remember posters mentioning the COVID excuse last year since it clearly favored St. John's. If you recall, the Johnnies were the only team not to suffer a halt due to COVID and Anderson and the team were the beneficiaries of that and parlayed it into a decent record. When we played Nova last year, they came off a halt in activities as did many other teams. You may also recall at the end of the year when the team lost to such teams as DePaul and a blowout loss to Nova the second time around, was when other teams were playing regularly without COVID issues. Funny how the Anderson defenders will try to spin things to find excuses for a dismal season to date.
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Yes he was and he missed the game last year against SJU. Good catch and obviously he would have been a starter. Which makes what Creighton is doing even more impressive.
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Fordham , question wasn’t Zegarowski still on that Creighton Team ? If so , wouldn’t he have started ? I know he was injured the year before but, returned last year . Just asking .
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Fordham , question wasn’t Zegarowski still on that Creighton Team ? If so , wouldn’t he have started ? I know he was injured the year before but, returned last year . Just asking .
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Losing our best player for multiple games to Covid, losing our top incoming recruit for most of the season due to Covid, not being able to practice for weeks due to Covid with many new players coming in, is all "nonsense" to you?Jermane Attoil post=458481 said:
Funny how the armchair coaching experts-Anderson haters will try to spin things to find him to blame for everything.
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I agree Covid cannot, and should not, be used as a sole excuse for a team's play or lack of success. We can parse words, but to call it "dismal" is a bit harsh. Disappointing yes, as I thought the prediction for a 4th place finish was justified.Jermane Attoil post=458481 said:
Marquette, currently sitting in 5th place in the standings at 9-6, is 2-1/2 games up on us and SH, currently tied for 7th at 6-8. Can we make up ground to get to 5th and avoid playing on Wednesday in the BE tournament? Perhaps. That is my hope. One game at a time.
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The next thing you know, you're putting Pinzon in the Hall of Fame? Would he have helped maybe, but a difference maker, come on now. I tell you what, I'll admit that Champs absence was an issue if you admit that we were the benefit of COVID last season.Proud Alumn post=458484 said:
UCONN lost James Bouknight for a long stretch who was probably the most talented player in the BE picked #11 in draft after just 2 years. Still made Tourney. Bouknight missed SJU game last year that SJU won in OT.
Marcus Zegerowski missed several games including SJU game at Creighton. Creighton still won by 18.
Marcus Zegerowski missed several games including SJU game at Creighton. Creighton still won by 18.
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Exactly, if you are going to blame COVID for this year, then give credit to it last year for much of the teams success. I guess the memory of many posters is short term here as no one brings up last year and how the Johnnies benefitted from the pandemic.fordham96 post=458490 said:
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None of what you are posting equates to the combined set of issues stated earlier with respect to our team this year.fordham96 post=458490 said:
Proud Alumn post=458492 said:
I have been know to steer us of topic on a thread or add on to a comment that has already brought the thread off topic (as one of my comments here did) but I kindly suggest any more discussion on this be taken to the Anderson thread where it can and will be debated to death.
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I partially agree with that. But let's say you have two teams with identical records and played an identical schedule. One team loses by an average of 2-6 points and plays 1 and 2 possession games. The other team loses by an average of 25 points.NCJohnnie post=458493 said:
Are they equal? If they each are what there record is, they certainly aren't the same.
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MarkRedman
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I just finished watching the game.
Great win. Best effort this team has put forth since we beat The Hall
A key stat that I didn't see mentioned in this thread -24 assists on 34 made baskets
When we share the ball like that, we can play with anybody
Unfortunately, we haven't done that too often this season
Hopefully, this is the start of good things to come
I've got the broom ready for a Butler sweep tomorrow
Great win. Best effort this team has put forth since we beat The Hall
A key stat that I didn't see mentioned in this thread -24 assists on 34 made baskets
When we share the ball like that, we can play with anybody
Unfortunately, we haven't done that too often this season
Hopefully, this is the start of good things to come
I've got the broom ready for a Butler sweep tomorrow
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MarkRedman wrote:
I just finished watching the game.
Great win. Best effort this team has put forth since we beat The Hall
A key stat that I didn't see mentioned in this thread -24 assists on 34 made baskets
When we share the ball like that, we can play with anybody
Unfortunately, we haven't done that too often this season
Hopefully, this is the start of good things to come
I've got the broom ready for a Butler sweep tomorrow.
Johnnies generally share the ball well, have the best assist to turnover ratio in the Big East - 18.6 assists to 12.4 turnovers to game; only Marquette comes close (16.8 assists to 12.2 turnovers).
I just finished watching the game.
Great win. Best effort this team has put forth since we beat The Hall
A key stat that I didn't see mentioned in this thread -24 assists on 34 made baskets
When we share the ball like that, we can play with anybody
Unfortunately, we haven't done that too often this season
Hopefully, this is the start of good things to come
I've got the broom ready for a Butler sweep tomorrow.
Johnnies generally share the ball well, have the best assist to turnover ratio in the Big East - 18.6 assists to 12.4 turnovers to game; only Marquette comes close (16.8 assists to 12.2 turnovers).
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NCJohnnie post=458524 said:
MarkRedman wrote:
I wasn't referring to the assists to turnover ratio at all
I was referring to the percentage of made baskets that were assisted by a teammate
We assisted on 71% of our made baskets last night - a very good percentage
Sorry MR, my mistake. Having said that, we are still quite good at assists per baskets made for the year, in a virtual tie with Marquette for Big East best at 63%. Sharing the ball has been a relative strength of ours this year imho although not quite as well as last night.
I wasn't referring to the assists to turnover ratio at all
I was referring to the percentage of made baskets that were assisted by a teammate
We assisted on 71% of our made baskets last night - a very good percentage
Sorry MR, my mistake. Having said that, we are still quite good at assists per baskets made for the year, in a virtual tie with Marquette for Big East best at 63%. Sharing the ball has been a relative strength of ours this year imho although not quite as well as last night.
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