(POST-GAME) St. Francis (Brooklyn), Tues., Nov. 23, 7p, FS-2
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Wusu is a tough, valuable and clutch player - but cannot be allowed to handle the ball. Routinely dribbles into traffic as does Coburn and a few others.
Soriano needs to be told that he either rebounds or sits.
Team needs to understand the importance of getting layups or fouls - especially when shots aren't falling. Stops other team from getting comfortable and gaining momentum.
Only good thing that I saw was that they seem to cover the 3 better in the 2nd half.
Soriano needs to be told that he either rebounds or sits.
Team needs to understand the importance of getting layups or fouls - especially when shots aren't falling. Stops other team from getting comfortable and gaining momentum.
Only good thing that I saw was that they seem to cover the 3 better in the 2nd half.
I know Champagnie filled up the stat sheet, had his 20 points, and helped us down the stretch to the win. But man, I kept waiting for him to take over. He still can't create his own shot. Can't break down a defender 1 on 1. He really just has to score in the flow of the game.
MarkRedman
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Champ is our best player
Posh is our Most Valuable Player
Posh is our Most Valuable Player
3-way tie with the above and committing 5 turnovers down the stretch trying to protect the lead. Five turnovers all of the non composed variety. Maybe a timeout after the second one could have avoided the last three.Phil G post=443871 said:
The rebounding was pitiful.mjmaherjr post=443879 said:
When we made the comeback, we didn't really get better on the boards, as much as we took potential rebounds away. St. Francis turned it over a lot, and we converted them into baskets, so there were not many rebounds to get.
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billthetruth
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Making blanket statements about how the team is going to play all year off games like FDU and STF is so Redmen.com.
great passion here but the level of the way people get carried away at times can be a head scratcher
great passion here but the level of the way people get carried away at times can be a head scratcher
I don't buy into the playing down to level of comp theory so much. Think they'd want to stuff the stat sheet like they did vs. MVS. Perhaps opening game but after a tough loss to Indiana and dreadful showing vs. FDU you've got to have fire in the belly no matter who you play.
Champ again w big stats but watching the game you would not have known it or thought he was the leader.
Champ again w big stats but watching the game you would not have known it or thought he was the leader.
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Ugly. Of all things the rebounding worries me the most. let’s get healthy and take care of NJIT.
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Hopefully, this is the ultimate survive and move on. Winning by 6 is still winning. We were also missing Posh and Pinzon which made us particularly thin at the point.
The concern I have is that even though we had major roster turnover, some of the “weaknesses” look very familiar. Their is no way to spin the amount of wide open looks at the 3 point line. St. Francis deserves a lot of credit for hitting those shots but way too many were great looks. Defense should be there every night. A lot of defense is “want to”. Didn’t look good tonight.
The second familiar concern is another “want to” and it’s rebounding. I don’t have the final number in front of me but SFB was beating our ass off the boards for a good portion of the night. That is not acceptable. It’s an effort stat.
Like I said, a win is a win. One more “should win” game before the Kansas game. No excuses. They need to really get after it in practice. Play like this against Kansas and we will be embarrassed. Time to pick up the effort level.
The concern I have is that even though we had major roster turnover, some of the “weaknesses” look very familiar. Their is no way to spin the amount of wide open looks at the 3 point line. St. Francis deserves a lot of credit for hitting those shots but way too many were great looks. Defense should be there every night. A lot of defense is “want to”. Didn’t look good tonight.
The second familiar concern is another “want to” and it’s rebounding. I don’t have the final number in front of me but SFB was beating our ass off the boards for a good portion of the night. That is not acceptable. It’s an effort stat.
Like I said, a win is a win. One more “should win” game before the Kansas game. No excuses. They need to really get after it in practice. Play like this against Kansas and we will be embarrassed. Time to pick up the effort level.
MakingPlays
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Bigs have been a disappointment thus far. Jackson-Davis took Soriano's soul, he hasn't been the same since he got dominated by him. Wheeler and Stanley have had their moments, but both also are not great rim protectors and seem to foul a lot and not rebound well. Best lineup when everyone is healthy seems to be Champ, Wusu, Mathis, Smith, and Posh. If we had Mathis to finish the Indiana game could have been different, I like what he's done so far, been one of the few bright spots since the Indiana loss.Monte post=443876 said:
Agree those are our 5 best players, but that combo gives us very little low post presence. We'll get eaten alive by teams with even average sized front lines. Champ does not want to guard big men, and Wusu, as strong and tough as he is, is going to be overmatched against most big men. Still hoping CMA finds a role for Wheeler, but becoming less and less confident by the game. Stanley may be a solid player for us down the road, just don't see him giving us much this year. I believe he hasn't scored a point in the last 3 games, and hasn't exactly made an impact on the boards or on D either. Not sure what the answer is.Making Plays post=443904 said:
... i miss Moore....
I didn't see that, but when he was leaving the court after the game, Champ seemed upset about something. Anderson was talking to him, and from a distance, it appeared to be in a consoling manner, not an angry one.Knight post=443877 said:
The players on St. Francis were doing a lot of yapping while they were building their lead, and our guys likewise during the comeback. I thought maybe someone had said something that Julian was sensative too, but maybe it was this.
Still, I think this is something we really shouldn't speculate over. If it's true, let the staff handle it. If it's false, we're stirring up unnecessary controversy.
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