(POST GAME) @Georgetown, Thu., Feb. 3, 6p, FS-1

[SJU85]

Does anyone know what is wrong with Pinzon? Sorry if stated in another post,

I believe it was a broken finger, than he had covid.  He was missing a lot of time and was probably not 100% with the finger so staff may be going for a medical redshirt, which is smart IMO, I think Pinzon will be a stud, wasting a year with him as the 10th or 11th guy when he's not 100% doesn't make much sense.

Not sure if the finger has anything to do with it.  Pretty sure he had a pretty good game after coming back from that injury.  Didn’t seem that the finger was holding him back 



 

Only thing I can think of.
 

I said in another thread it might be a problem with a knee which he had problems with while in high school.

 

[redmanwest]

The negativity of this board the past few weeks is understandable given the pre-season expectations.  And, given what looked like underperformance by certain players.  But, I see nothing wrong with the "audacity of hope" to think we could have a better last third of the season than first 2/3.  The past 2 years have shown that coach's teams rend to play better toward the end of season than beginning. With guys like Wheeler, Soriano, Nywie et al filing their roles better than earlier in season, I do  not think it is silly to think we could make a decent run to close out the season.  Tough games ahead, especially those compressed into the next 2 weeks, but again, the last 2 years we won a bunch of games down the stretch that earlier in those seasons we did  not think we had a chanced to compete in.  So, here's hoping....

 

[kranmars]

6-3 = 10-9 in conference, which puts us on the bubble and also means we beat some good teams down the stretch. One win in BE tournament puts us in, I think. I would be fine with that, if it is possible.

As one of the members of this forum’s wet blanket society, I still do not think that puts the team on the bubble. It may even require making the finals (or at least the semis) of BE tournament.

Regular season record would be 18-12 (19-13 if they go 1-1 in BE tourney) and may not be good enough due in part to their weak out of conference schedule.

 

[gregbodkin]

Duke, remember my pregame prediction?(Or hope LOL) Champ came back. Posh barely missed the double double and we won by 13 and not 15. I got one out of three!

You nailed it!  Now what do you got for Saturday?

I'm hoping for a hard fought, nail biting one or two point win.

 

[fordham96]

I agree I don't think that puts them in or even gets them on the bubble.  Especially if 3 of those 6 remaining wins are over DePaul and Butler twice.

kranmars post=455093

As one of the members of this forum’s wet blanket society, I still do not think that puts the team on the bubble. It may even require making the finals (or at least the semis) of BE tournament.

Regular season record would be 18-12 (19-13 if they go 1-1 in BE tourney) and may not be good enough due in part to their weak out of conference schedule.

 

[beast of the east]

6-3 = 10-9 in conference, which puts us on the bubble and also means we beat some good teams down the stretch. One win in BE tournament puts us in, I think. I would be fine with that, if it is possible.

As one of the members of this forum’s wet blanket society, I still do not think that puts the team on the bubble. It may even require making the finals (or at least the semis) of BE tournament.

Regular season record would be 18-12 (19-13 if they go 1-1 in BE tourney) and may not be good enough due in part to their weak out of conference schedule.

Without looking beyond the next game (Butler), conventional wisdom would say 9-10, we are out unless we win the BET, 10-9 with one BET win - on the bubble, 10-9 2 BET wins - definitely in.     No doubt an uphill climb

 

[monte]

I felt from the get go that if we danced I'd consider this a successful season. But if we played good ball most of the season and came close, I'd still consider it a successful season. Putting W-Ls aside for moment, we have not played good ball for the majority of our games, and the majority of the games are behind us. I know we are better then we showed in many games, I'm just not sure that we're good enough to make the kind of run its it's going to take to even be a bubble team. After watching more ball this year then I have in many years, I honestly don't think we're better then any of the 7 Big East teams who are currently projected to dance. I guess the point I'm making is that while anything is possible, I'm not expecting us to see March Madness. 

 

[paultzman]

I felt from the get go that if we danced I'd consider this a successful season. But if we played good ball most of the season and came close, I'd still consider it a successful season. Putting W-Ls aside for moment, we have not played good ball for the majority of our games, and the majority of the games are behind us. I know we are better then we showed in many games, I'm just not sure that we're good enough to make the kind of run its it's going to take to even be a bubble team. After watching more ball this year then I have in many years, I honestly don't think we're better then any of the 7 Big East teams who are currently projected to dance. I guess the point I'm making is that while anything is possible, I'm not expecting us to see March Madness. 

Very fair

 

[ras]

The negativity of this board the past few weeks is understandable given the pre-season expectations.  And, given what looked like underperformance by certain players.  But, I see nothing wrong with the "audacity of hope" to think we could have a better last third of the season than first 2/3.  The past 2 years have shown that coach's teams rend to play better toward the end of season than beginning. With guys like Wheeler, Soriano, Nywie et al filing their roles better than earlier in season, I do  not think it is silly to think we could make a decent run to close out the season.  Tough games ahead, especially those compressed into the next 2 weeks, but again, the last 2 years we won a bunch of games down the stretch that earlier in those seasons we did  not think we had a chanced to compete in.  So, here's hoping....
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let’s not forget if Champ plays like hes capable of, like we saw last night. Wheeler and Soriano are becoming bona fide BE players.
The biggest problem we have now is we are short a good shooting guard.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Absolutely have to win 2 of the next 3 to even have a discussion. Whether  that’s a road win + 1/2 between uconn and nova. Or a loss at butler but take care of business at the garden vs two top 20 teams. Then a strong finish vs softer part of schedule gives you a chance for ten + wins and, perhaps more important, momentum heading into the BE tourney. 

 

[Mullins Revenge]

The negativity of this board the past few weeks is understandable given the pre-season expectations.  And, given what looked like underperformance by certain players.  But, I see nothing wrong with the "audacity of hope" to think we could have a better last third of the season than first 2/3.  The past 2 years have shown that coach's teams rend to play better toward the end of season than beginning. With guys like Wheeler, Soriano, Nywie et al filing their roles better than earlier in season, I do  not think it is silly to think we could make a decent run to close out the season.  Tough games ahead, especially those compressed into the next 2 weeks, but again, the last 2 years we won a bunch of games down the stretch that earlier in those seasons we did  not think we had a chanced to compete in.  So, here's hoping....
———
let’s not forget if Champ plays like hes capable of, like we saw last night. Wheeler and Soriano are becoming bona fide BE players.
The biggest problem we have now is we are short a good shooting guard.

We spend too much time playing Wusu and Mathis at the same time.  The guard rotation should be Mathis or Wusu and Coburn or Smith.  Wusu and Mathis should never be on the floor at the same time.  That gives u 3 guards who cant shoot on the floor.  Cant have that.

 

[room112]

I don't think we've looked like a great team for most of the season. But what's possibly most maddening is, if we could have found a way to pull out those close games that we lost, this would be a totally different season with much more enthusiasm here.

The losses to Indiana, Pittsburgh, UConn, and Providence all easily could have been wins. 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

The negativity of this board the past few weeks is understandable given the pre-season expectations.  And, given what looked like underperformance by certain players.  But, I see nothing wrong with the "audacity of hope" to think we could have a better last third of the season than first 2/3.  The past 2 years have shown that coach's teams rend to play better toward the end of season than beginning. With guys like Wheeler, Soriano, Nywie et al filing their roles better than earlier in season, I do  not think it is silly to think we could make a decent run to close out the season.  Tough games ahead, especially those compressed into the next 2 weeks, but again, the last 2 years we won a bunch of games down the stretch that earlier in those seasons we did  not think we had a chanced to compete in.  So, here's hoping....
———
let’s not forget if Champ plays like hes capable of, like we saw last night. Wheeler and Soriano are becoming bona fide BE players.
The biggest problem we have now is we are short a good shooting guard.

We spend too much time playing Wusu and Mathis at the same time.  The guard rotation should be Mathis or Wusu and Coburn or Smith.  Wusu and Mathis should never be on the floor at the same time.  That gives u 3 guards who cant shoot on the floor.  Cant have that.

Wusu 38.5% from 3 on 65 attempts.

Smith 32.3% from 3 on 60 attempts.

Smith MAY be the better shooter but the #s this year aren’t indicating it. There is no question who brings more to the table in terms of passing, rebounding, and defense.

I don’t disagree with your point that playing non shooters together is a challenge. Mathis and Posh yeah but Wusu is a threat from deep.

 

[Redmen88]

I don't think we've looked like a great team for most of the season. But what's possibly most maddening is, if we could have found a way to pull out those close games that we lost, this would be a totally different season with much more enthusiasm here.

The losses to Indiana, Pittsburgh, UConn, and Providence all easily could have been wins. 

Excellent teams win most of the close games. Bad team lose most of those close games and good teams split those very close games.  Which one of the 3 is SJ?

 

[Anthony Mattia]

Pros

• Kids played full 40 minutes
• Julian is back
• Soriano improving
• Rebounded the ball better
• Wusu showed some signs of life
• Mike got married and was still allowed to watched the game /media/kunena/emoticons/cheerful.png

Cons

• Poor defense was camouflaged by a Hoya team that can't shoot
• The win keeps us on life support but is meaningless unless we grab multiple big wins

Georgetown has the highest 3p% in the conference, so I am not sure where this is coming from

 

[gregbodkin]

I also noticed something new in our rebounding. We were tapping the ball back out to the perimeter quickly when we got an offensive or defensive rebound which increased the pace of the game, quickly turns the other teams offense and defense and wore Gtown down last night. I used to watch other teams do this and often think "Why don't we do that?". We did that last night and I think that if we continue that type of play we will get more wins.

 

[monte]

I don't think we've looked like a great team for most of the season. But what's possibly most maddening is, if we could have found a way to pull out those close games that we lost, this would be a totally different season with much more enthusiasm here.

The losses to Indiana, Pittsburgh, UConn, and Providence all easily could have been wins. 

I agree 112, but you could say the same about Depaul and lots of other teams who lost a number of very close games. The better teams find ways to win most of those close games, the lesser teams find ways to lose them. We also won some close games early in the season against lesser comp,
so it does cut both ways. During the GT game I got frustrated because when we were up 20 we started taking contested 3s with 20 seconds +/- left on the shot clock,  which resulted in GT almost getting back in the game. GT stinks, but a better team would have seized that opportunity and we would have wound up in a nail bitter. We won, but those kinds of things are not the sign of a good or disciplined team. 

 

[JohnnyFan]

Pros

• Kids played full 40 minutes
• Julian is back
• Soriano improving
• Rebounded the ball better
• Wusu showed some signs of life
• Mike got married and was still allowed to watched the game /media/kunena/emoticons/cheerful.png

Cons

• Poor defense was camouflaged by a Hoya team that can't shoot
• The win keeps us on life support but is meaningless unless we grab multiple big wins

Georgetown has the highest 3p% in the conference, so I am not sure where this is coming from

True, but they are last in the conference in FG% (ranked 299 in the nation).  They couldn't finish anything last last night.  

 

[Mean Gene]

I don't think we've looked like a great team for most of the season. But what's possibly most maddening is, if we could have found a way to pull out those close games that we lost, this would be a totally different season with much more enthusiasm here.

The losses to Indiana, Pittsburgh, UConn, and Providence all easily could have been wins. 

If we could have won two of those four games things could be different.

 

[lawmanfan]

I don't think we've looked like a great team for most of the season. But what's possibly most maddening is, if we could have found a way to pull out those close games that we lost, this would be a totally different season with much more enthusiasm here.

The losses to Indiana, Pittsburgh, UConn, and Providence all easily could have been wins. 

If we could have won two of those four games things could be different.
 

If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a trolley car