Ponds Part of SJU & Jefferson HS History

[quote="Class of 72" post=272897][quote="Monte" post=272894][quote="Class of 72" post=272891]I grew up a few blocks from Jeff saw all those Jefferson high kids play. My older teen friends who didn't attend Catholic schools went to Jeff and took me to games with them. Jefferson was in Brownsville, Brooklyn and was the heart and soul of Jewish Brooklyn but more importantly the home of many of the Jewish high school stars that eventually became college stars, including St. John's. My fondest memories are of Tony Jackson and LeRoy Ellis from my neighborhood who went on to star at St. John's.
For those of you, especially some of the older fans, who want to remenice if you grew up in Brooklyn and where all the Jeff players are mentioned, I highly recommend reading "Basketball Is in My Blood: A Basketball Addict’S Autobiography
By Martin Groveman.
You will not be disappointed.;)[/quote]

Not sure if there was an earlier location, but the one on Pennsylvania Ave which has been there at least going back to the 60's(I remember it from drives to Canarsie to visit my Mom's family) is in East NY, not Brownsville.[/quote].

Jeff is on the border of ENY and Brownsville but back then the kids from Brownsville were zoned to Jefferson while the kids from East New York were zoned to Franklin K. Lane on Jamaica Ave. Since the Brownsville kids all went to Jeff everyone considered it a Brownsville school.
It was reorganized by the NYC Dept. of Education into 4 separate schools so the old Jeff technically no longer exists but they are located in the original building.

FYI:
On May 11, 1922, ground was broken by Mayor Hylan for the construction of Thomas Jefferson High School, located in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Over the years, the large school was instrumental in the education of many notable people, but by the 1990s the neighborhood and school had fallen into decline. In the fall of 2002, Thomas Jefferson High School was named one of seven low-performing Brooklyn high schools scheduled for restructuring under the Brooklyn New Century High Schools initiative. In 2004 it was announced that Jefferson would no longer accept incoming 9th graders, although the existing students would be allowed to stay and graduate. Four new small schools opened in the building in September 2004:
1. The Performing Arts and Technical High School (PATH)
2. High School for Fire and Life Safety (FDNY)
3. High School for Civil Rights (CIVIL RIGHTS)
4. World Advocacy for Total Community Health High School (WATCH)

Famous alumni of Thomas Jefferson High School include actors Danny Kaye, Shelley Winters, and Jimmy Smits.[/quote]

I hate to break this to you 72', but it ain't even on the border of Brownsville. Its a good 1/2 mile away. Look at any map
 
[quote="Monte" post=272902][quote="Class of 72" post=272897][quote="Monte" post=272894][quote="Class of 72" post=272891]I grew up a few blocks from Jeff saw all those Jefferson high kids play. My older teen friends who didn't attend Catholic schools went to Jeff and took me to games with them. Jefferson was in Brownsville, Brooklyn and was the heart and soul of Jewish Brooklyn but more importantly the home of many of the Jewish high school stars that eventually became college stars, including St. John's. My fondest memories are of Tony Jackson and LeRoy Ellis from my neighborhood who went on to star at St. John's.
For those of you, especially some of the older fans, who want to remenice if you grew up in Brooklyn and where all the Jeff players are mentioned, I highly recommend reading "Basketball Is in My Blood: A Basketball Addict’S Autobiography
By Martin Groveman.
You will not be disappointed.;)[/quote]

Not sure if there was an earlier location, but the one on Pennsylvania Ave which has been there at least going back to the 60's(I remember it from drives to Canarsie to visit my Mom's family) is in East NY, not Brownsville.[/quote].

Jeff is on the border of ENY and Brownsville but back then the kids from Brownsville were zoned to Jefferson while the kids from East New York were zoned to Franklin K. Lane on Jamaica Ave. Since the Brownsville kids all went to Jeff everyone considered it a Brownsville school.
It was reorganized by the NYC Dept. of Education into 4 separate schools so the old Jeff technically no longer exists but they are located in the original building.

FYI:
On May 11, 1922, ground was broken by Mayor Hylan for the construction of Thomas Jefferson High School, located in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Over the years, the large school was instrumental in the education of many notable people, but by the 1990s the neighborhood and school had fallen into decline. In the fall of 2002, Thomas Jefferson High School was named one of seven low-performing Brooklyn high schools scheduled for restructuring under the Brooklyn New Century High Schools initiative. In 2004 it was announced that Jefferson would no longer accept incoming 9th graders, although the existing students would be allowed to stay and graduate. Four new small schools opened in the building in September 2004:
1. The Performing Arts and Technical High School (PATH)
2. High School for Fire and Life Safety (FDNY)
3. High School for Civil Rights (CIVIL RIGHTS)
4. World Advocacy for Total Community Health High School (WATCH)

Famous alumni of Thomas Jefferson High School include actors Danny Kaye, Shelley Winters, and Jimmy Smits.[/quote]

I'm not saying it didn't serve Brownsville, all I'm saying is that it's located in ENY. From Wiki:

Thomas Jefferson High School was a high school in the East New York section of Brooklyn, New York. It was the alma mater of many people who grew up in the Great Depression and World War II and rose to prominence in the arts, literature, and other fields.[1] In 2007, the New York City Department of Education closed the school and broke it into several small schools because of low graduation rates.[[/quote]

I appreciate the Wiki reference Monte!;)
I grew up in zip code 11233. We considered our neighborhood East New York but if you look it up it will say it's in Community Board 16 which did not exist when Jeff was built. Today 11233 is considered Brownsville. When the school was built it was considered Brownsville (see my reference above from NYC Hist.). Today,the school is 5 city blocks from the new ENY -Brownsville border but if you dug deeper into your Wiki research you would have noted that on the Brownsville site it states " located in Brooklyn Community Board 16, Brownsville is generally considered part of greater East New York." Since Jefferson is on the extreme western edge of greater East New York, which includes New Lots, Highland Park and City Line, it serves the students (almost exclusively) from Brownsville. If take the time to read the book I suggested you will notice that the Jefferson neighborhood is referred to as Brownsville. In the 30's 40's and 50's there were more cultural and ethnic boundaries that defined whether you considered yourself a Jewish kid from Brownsville, an Italian kid fro East New York or a German American kid from Highland Park.
Now, tell me about your hood.;)
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=272907][quote="Monte" post=272902][quote="Class of 72" post=272897][quote="Monte" post=272894][quote="Class of 72" post=272891]I grew up a few blocks from Jeff saw all those Jefferson high kids play. My older teen friends who didn't attend Catholic schools went to Jeff and took me to games with them. Jefferson was in Brownsville, Brooklyn and was the heart and soul of Jewish Brooklyn but more importantly the home of many of the Jewish high school stars that eventually became college stars, including St. John's. My fondest memories are of Tony Jackson and LeRoy Ellis from my neighborhood who went on to star at St. John's.
For those of you, especially some of the older fans, who want to remenice if you grew up in Brooklyn and where all the Jeff players are mentioned, I highly recommend reading "Basketball Is in My Blood: A Basketball Addict’S Autobiography
By Martin Groveman.
You will not be disappointed.;)[/quote]

Not sure if there was an earlier location, but the one on Pennsylvania Ave which has been there at least going back to the 60's(I remember it from drives to Canarsie to visit my Mom's family) is in East NY, not Brownsville.[/quote].

Jeff is on the border of ENY and Brownsville but back then the kids from Brownsville were zoned to Jefferson while the kids from East New York were zoned to Franklin K. Lane on Jamaica Ave. Since the Brownsville kids all went to Jeff everyone considered it a Brownsville school.
It was reorganized by the NYC Dept. of Education into 4 separate schools so the old Jeff technically no longer exists but they are located in the original building.

FYI:
On May 11, 1922, ground was broken by Mayor Hylan for the construction of Thomas Jefferson High School, located in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Over the years, the large school was instrumental in the education of many notable people, but by the 1990s the neighborhood and school had fallen into decline. In the fall of 2002, Thomas Jefferson High School was named one of seven low-performing Brooklyn high schools scheduled for restructuring under the Brooklyn New Century High Schools initiative. In 2004 it was announced that Jefferson would no longer accept incoming 9th graders, although the existing students would be allowed to stay and graduate. Four new small schools opened in the building in September 2004:
1. The Performing Arts and Technical High School (PATH)
2. High School for Fire and Life Safety (FDNY)
3. High School for Civil Rights (CIVIL RIGHTS)
4. World Advocacy for Total Community Health High School (WATCH)

Famous alumni of Thomas Jefferson High School include actors Danny Kaye, Shelley Winters, and Jimmy Smits.[/quote]

I'm not saying it didn't serve Brownsville, all I'm saying is that it's located in ENY. From Wiki:

Thomas Jefferson High School was a high school in the East New York section of Brooklyn, New York. It was the alma mater of many people who grew up in the Great Depression and World War II and rose to prominence in the arts, literature, and other fields.[1] In 2007, the New York City Department of Education closed the school and broke it into several small schools because of low graduation rates.[[/quote]

I appreciate the Wiki reference Monte!;)
I grew up in zip code 11233. We considered our neighborhood East New York but if you look it up it will say it's in Community Board 16 which did not exist when Jeff was built. Today 11233 is considered Brownsville. When the school was built it was considered Brownsville (see my reference above from NYC Hist.). Today,the school is 5 city blocks from the new ENY -Brownsville border but if you dug deeper into your Wiki research you would have noted that on the Brownsville site it states " located in Brooklyn Community Board 16, Brownsville is generally considered part of greater East New York." Since Jefferson is on the extreme western edge of greater East New York, which includes New Lots, Highland Park and City Line, it serves the students (almost exclusively) from Brownsville. If take the time to read the book I suggested you will notice that the Jefferson neighborhood is referred to as Brownsville. In the 30's 40's and 50's there were more cultural and ethnic boundaries that defined whether you considered yourself a Jewish kid from Brownsville, an Italian kid fro East New York or a German American kid from Highland Park.
Now, tell me about your hood.;)[/quote]

My head is spinning from your last post, I give up ;) FWIW My parents met in the bank on Penn and Atlantic. My Mom worked there and my Dad banked there. Her fav customer? Mr. Fortunoff. Wonderful man she has always said. When I was born my parents lived in an apt building at the very top of Miller Hill(Miller Ave), right on the corner of Highland Blvd. St. Malachy on Atlantic Ave was our Parish till we moved to Bushwick. Tom Jeff was in East NY then, and it's still in East NY!!! Ok so maybe I didn't give up lol
 
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[quote="Monte" post=272908][quote="Class of 72" post=272907][quote="Monte" post=272902][quote="Class of 72" post=272897][quote="Monte" post=272894][quote="Class of 72" post=272891]I grew up a few blocks from Jeff saw all those Jefferson high kids play. My older teen friends who didn't attend Catholic schools went to Jeff and took me to games with them. Jefferson was in Brownsville, Brooklyn and was the heart and soul of Jewish Brooklyn but more importantly the home of many of the Jewish high school stars that eventually became college stars, including St. John's. My fondest memories are of Tony Jackson and LeRoy Ellis from my neighborhood who went on to star at St. John's.
For those of you, especially some of the older fans, who want to remenice if you grew up in Brooklyn and where all the Jeff players are mentioned, I highly recommend reading "Basketball Is in My Blood: A Basketball Addict’S Autobiography
By Martin Groveman.
You will not be disappointed.;)[/quote]

Not sure if there was an earlier location, but the one on Pennsylvania Ave which has been there at least going back to the 60's(I remember it from drives to Canarsie to visit my Mom's family) is in East NY, not Brownsville.[/quote].

Jeff is on the border of ENY and Brownsville but back then the kids from Brownsville were zoned to Jefferson while the kids from East New York were zoned to Franklin K. Lane on Jamaica Ave. Since the Brownsville kids all went to Jeff everyone considered it a Brownsville school.
It was reorganized by the NYC Dept. of Education into 4 separate schools so the old Jeff technically no longer exists but they are located in the original building.

FYI:
On May 11, 1922, ground was broken by Mayor Hylan for the construction of Thomas Jefferson High School, located in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Over the years, the large school was instrumental in the education of many notable people, but by the 1990s the neighborhood and school had fallen into decline. In the fall of 2002, Thomas Jefferson High School was named one of seven low-performing Brooklyn high schools scheduled for restructuring under the Brooklyn New Century High Schools initiative. In 2004 it was announced that Jefferson would no longer accept incoming 9th graders, although the existing students would be allowed to stay and graduate. Four new small schools opened in the building in September 2004:
1. The Performing Arts and Technical High School (PATH)
2. High School for Fire and Life Safety (FDNY)
3. High School for Civil Rights (CIVIL RIGHTS)
4. World Advocacy for Total Community Health High School (WATCH)

Famous alumni of Thomas Jefferson High School include actors Danny Kaye, Shelley Winters, and Jimmy Smits.[/quote]

I'm not saying it didn't serve Brownsville, all I'm saying is that it's located in ENY. From Wiki:

Thomas Jefferson High School was a high school in the East New York section of Brooklyn, New York. It was the alma mater of many people who grew up in the Great Depression and World War II and rose to prominence in the arts, literature, and other fields.[1] In 2007, the New York City Department of Education closed the school and broke it into several small schools because of low graduation rates.[[/quote]

I appreciate the Wiki reference Monte!;)
I grew up in zip code 11233. We considered our neighborhood East New York but if you look it up it will say it's in Community Board 16 which did not exist when Jeff was built. Today 11233 is considered Brownsville. When the school was built it was considered Brownsville (see my reference above from NYC Hist.). Today,the school is 5 city blocks from the new ENY -Brownsville border but if you dug deeper into your Wiki research you would have noted that on the Brownsville site it states " located in Brooklyn Community Board 16, Brownsville is generally considered part of greater East New York." Since Jefferson is on the extreme western edge of greater East New York, which includes New Lots, Highland Park and City Line, it serves the students (almost exclusively) from Brownsville. If take the time to read the book I suggested you will notice that the Jefferson neighborhood is referred to as Brownsville. In the 30's 40's and 50's there were more cultural and ethnic boundaries that defined whether you considered yourself a Jewish kid from Brownsville, an Italian kid fro East New York or a German American kid from Highland Park.
Now, tell me about your hood.;)[/quote]

My head is spinning from your last post, I give up ;) FWIW My parents met in the bank on Penn and Atlantic. My Mom worked there and my Dad banked there. Her fav customer? Mr. Fortunoff. Wonderful man she has always said. When I was born my parents lived in an apt building at the very top of Miller Hill(Miller Ave), right on the corner of Highland Blvd. St. Malachy on Atlantic Ave was our Parish till we moved to Bushwick. Tom Jeff was in East NY then, and it's still in East NY!!! Ok so maybe I didn't give up lol[/quote]

That bank on the corner of Atlantic and Pennsylvania was the original East New York Savings Bank and where I opened up my first account in the 5th grade at Our Lady of Loretto School. You see, we were neighbors! But you were up by Highland and lived in a more "upscale" section of East New York! If you had to go to public high school back then you would have gone to Lane while I would have walked to Jefferson. Today, Ocean Hill, Brownsville, Highland Park, New Lots and City Line are among the most dangerous neighborhoods in NYC. This is where Shamorie's family lives now and why he will take a very serious look at the NBA. If he gets the slightest interest from an NBA team we are looking at a smaller scale rebuild whether fans here like to hear that or not.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=272909][quote="Monte" post=272908][quote="Class of 72" post=272907][quote="Monte" post=272902][quote="Class of 72" post=272897][quote="Monte" post=272894][quote="Class of 72" post=272891]I grew up a few blocks from Jeff saw all those Jefferson high kids play. My older teen friends who didn't attend Catholic schools went to Jeff and took me to games with them. Jefferson was in Brownsville, Brooklyn and was the heart and soul of Jewish Brooklyn but more importantly the home of many of the Jewish high school stars that eventually became college stars, including St. John's. My fondest memories are of Tony Jackson and LeRoy Ellis from my neighborhood who went on to star at St. John's.
For those of you, especially some of the older fans, who want to remenice if you grew up in Brooklyn and where all the Jeff players are mentioned, I highly recommend reading "Basketball Is in My Blood: A Basketball Addict’S Autobiography
By Martin Groveman.
You will not be disappointed.;)[/quote]

Not sure if there was an earlier location, but the one on Pennsylvania Ave which has been there at least going back to the 60's(I remember it from drives to Canarsie to visit my Mom's family) is in East NY, not Brownsville.[/quote].

Jeff is on the border of ENY and Brownsville but back then the kids from Brownsville were zoned to Jefferson while the kids from East New York were zoned to Franklin K. Lane on Jamaica Ave. Since the Brownsville kids all went to Jeff everyone considered it a Brownsville school.
It was reorganized by the NYC Dept. of Education into 4 separate schools so the old Jeff technically no longer exists but they are located in the original building.

FYI:
On May 11, 1922, ground was broken by Mayor Hylan for the construction of Thomas Jefferson High School, located in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Over the years, the large school was instrumental in the education of many notable people, but by the 1990s the neighborhood and school had fallen into decline. In the fall of 2002, Thomas Jefferson High School was named one of seven low-performing Brooklyn high schools scheduled for restructuring under the Brooklyn New Century High Schools initiative. In 2004 it was announced that Jefferson would no longer accept incoming 9th graders, although the existing students would be allowed to stay and graduate. Four new small schools opened in the building in September 2004:
1. The Performing Arts and Technical High School (PATH)
2. High School for Fire and Life Safety (FDNY)
3. High School for Civil Rights (CIVIL RIGHTS)
4. World Advocacy for Total Community Health High School (WATCH)

Famous alumni of Thomas Jefferson High School include actors Danny Kaye, Shelley Winters, and Jimmy Smits.[/quote]

I'm not saying it didn't serve Brownsville, all I'm saying is that it's located in ENY. From Wiki:

Thomas Jefferson High School was a high school in the East New York section of Brooklyn, New York. It was the alma mater of many people who grew up in the Great Depression and World War II and rose to prominence in the arts, literature, and other fields.[1] In 2007, the New York City Department of Education closed the school and broke it into several small schools because of low graduation rates.[[/quote]

I appreciate the Wiki reference Monte!;)
I grew up in zip code 11233. We considered our neighborhood East New York but if you look it up it will say it's in Community Board 16 which did not exist when Jeff was built. Today 11233 is considered Brownsville. When the school was built it was considered Brownsville (see my reference above from NYC Hist.). Today,the school is 5 city blocks from the new ENY -Brownsville border but if you dug deeper into your Wiki research you would have noted that on the Brownsville site it states " located in Brooklyn Community Board 16, Brownsville is generally considered part of greater East New York." Since Jefferson is on the extreme western edge of greater East New York, which includes New Lots, Highland Park and City Line, it serves the students (almost exclusively) from Brownsville. If take the time to read the book I suggested you will notice that the Jefferson neighborhood is referred to as Brownsville. In the 30's 40's and 50's there were more cultural and ethnic boundaries that defined whether you considered yourself a Jewish kid from Brownsville, an Italian kid fro East New York or a German American kid from Highland Park.
Now, tell me about your hood.;)[/quote]

My head is spinning from your last post, I give up ;) FWIW My parents met in the bank on Penn and Atlantic. My Mom worked there and my Dad banked there. Her fav customer? Mr. Fortunoff. Wonderful man she has always said. When I was born my parents lived in an apt building at the very top of Miller Hill(Miller Ave), right on the corner of Highland Blvd. St. Malachy on Atlantic Ave was our Parish till we moved to Bushwick. Tom Jeff was in East NY then, and it's still in East NY!!! Ok so maybe I didn't give up lol[/quote]

That bank on the corner of Atlantic and Pennsylvania was the original East New York Savings Bank and where I opened up my first account in the 5th grade at Our Lady of Loretto School. You see, we were neighbors! But you were up by Highland and lived in a more "upscale" section of East New York! If you had to go to public high school back then you would have gone to Lane while I would have walked to Jefferson. Today, Ocean Hill, Brownsville, Highland Park, New Lots and City Line are among the most dangerous neighborhoods in NYC. This is where Shamorie's family lives now and why he will take a very serious look at the NBA. If he gets the slightest interest from an NBA team we are looking at a smaller scale rebuild whether fans here like to hear that or not.[/quote]

Highland Blvd was where Brooklyn aristocracy lived!!! Vito Batista, amongst others, My Uncle Jerry, a Dentist and one of the first Italian-Americans to be accepted in to an Ivy(Penn) lived on Highland Bvld. .Lots of other professionals lived in the mansions. By the time I was born, ENY was already going to hell. The trip down Penn Ave to visit my Mom's family in Canarsie was always an adventure. . They also bused kids from Glendale down to FKL. Lots of my cousins went there when they should have gone to Cleveland. School zoning has always been a mess.
 
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Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)
 
[quote="bamafan" post=272911]Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)[/quote]

Hahaha, I probably should have added "....until my Dad walked in to the bank"
 
[quote="Monte" post=272915][quote="bamafan" post=272911]Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)[/quote]

Hahaha, I probably should have added "....until my Dad walked in to the bank"[/quote]

Since ENY was full of mobsters I assume your dad had a mask on and your mom didn't get a good look at him until she met him again in Highland Park and noticed he was wearing the same devil's horn necklace.:p
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=272918][quote="Monte" post=272915][quote="bamafan" post=272911]Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)[/quote]

Hahaha, I probably should have added "....until my Dad walked in to the bank"[/quote]

Since ENY was full of mobsters I assume your dad had a mask on and your mom didn't get a good look at him until she met him again in Highland Park and noticed he was wearing the same devil's horn necklace.:p[/quote]

So you're acknowledging that the bank is in ENY(hard to refute, considering the name), but still claiming that the high school across the street(further away from the border) is in Brownsville???????? lol
 
[quote="Monte" post=272922][quote="Class of 72" post=272918][quote="Monte" post=272915][quote="bamafan" post=272911]Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)[/quote]

Hahaha, I probably should have added "....until my Dad walked in to the bank"[/quote]

Since ENY was full of mobsters I assume your dad had a mask on and your mom didn't get a good look at him until she met him again in Highland Park and noticed he was wearing the same devil's horn necklace.:p[/quote]

So you're acknowledging that the bank is in ENY(hard to refute, considering the name), but still claiming that the high school across the street(further away from the border) is in Brownsville???????? lol[/quote]

Mama Mia you must be Calabrese!:cheer:
When the school opened it was considered to be in Brownsville and when community boards were drawn with district lines 5 blocks were chopped from Brownsville along "ethnic lines" and assigned to the ENY district. To make you happy, the school is now in East New York.;)
Please read the short book I suggested as I think you will enjoy it and it gives identity to both the school and the Brownsville Boys Club that nurtured most of the early Jewish players that attended Jefferson. It is now available on line for free reading so don't respond to this thread again unless you read it!:)
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=272938][quote="Monte" post=272922][quote="Class of 72" post=272918][quote="Monte" post=272915][quote="bamafan" post=272911]Monte, how did your Dad feel about your Mom considering Mr. Fortunoff as being her favorite customer? ;) :)[/quote]

Hahaha, I probably should have added "....until my Dad walked in to the bank"[/quote]

Since ENY was full of mobsters I assume your dad had a mask on and your mom didn't get a good look at him until she met him again in Highland Park and noticed he was wearing the same devil's horn necklace.:p[/quote]

So you're acknowledging that the bank is in ENY(hard to refute, considering the name), but still claiming that the high school across the street(further away from the border) is in Brownsville???????? lol[/quote]

Mama Mia you must be Calabrese!:cheer:
When the school opened it was considered to be in Brownsville and when community boards were drawn with district lines 5 blocks were chopped from Brownsville along "ethnic lines" and assigned to the ENY district. To make you happy, the school is now in East New York.;)
Please read the short book I suggested as I think you will enjoy it and it gives identity to both the school and the Brownsville Boys Club that nurtured most of the early Jewish players that attended Jefferson. It is now available on line for free reading so don't respond to this thread again unless you read it!:)[/quote]

110 % Siciliano. We’re even more testa dura than the Calabrese
 
Monte and '72 you guys are so funny over the different neighborhoods. Meanwhile I grew up in Flatbush but now they call it East Flatbush (no such thing back then). And my aunts and uncles lived in different parts of Flatbush but now we have Albemarle and Ditmas Park, Lefferts Gardens, it all kinda of made up by real estate people to make things sound "nicer".

I grew up about 10 blocks from Chris Mullin but his neighborhood was either Flatlands or Marine Park, though back then among Catholics you went by Parishes not neighborhood names, so St. Jerome's vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, but my neighborhood had the BB mecca Foster Park.

I delivered flowers in Bklyn during high school and college and got to know all of the areas in Bklyn very well, so all the talk about Brownsville versus East NY brought back a flood of memories, thanks, guys.
 
[quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=272946]Monte and '72 you guys are so funny over the different neighborhoods. Meanwhile I grew up in Flatbush but now they call it East Flatbush (no such thing back then). And my aunts and uncles lived in different parts of Flatbush but now we have Albemarle and Ditmas Park, Lefferts Gardens, it all kinda of made up by real estate people to make things sound "nicer".

I grew up about 10 blocks from Chris Mullin but his neighborhood was either Flatlands or Marine Park, though back then among Catholics you went by Parishes not neighborhood names, so St. Jerome's vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, but my neighborhood had the BB mecca Foster Park.

I delivered flowers in Bklyn during high school and college and got to know all of the areas in Bklyn very well, so all the talk about Brownsville versus East NY brought back a flood of memories, thanks, guys.[/quote]

Its funny you mention the renaming of neighborhoods. I identify more with growing up in Bushwick than by Highland Park. Both my parents were from Bushwick and my Grandparents and countless relatives lived there. We moved there when I was about 11. Anyhow when the Williamsburg real estate market took off, brokers started calling parts of Bushwick(especially those along the L train stops) "East Williamsburg" in an effort to make it sound more appealing. Of course then the Bushwick market took off it was back to being called Bushwick. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years if they don't start calling parts of Williamsburg "West Bushwick". Or possibly even calling parts of ENY "East Brownsville" lol.
 
[quote="Monte" post=272961][quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=272946]Monte and '72 you guys are so funny over the different neighborhoods. Meanwhile I grew up in Flatbush but now they call it East Flatbush (no such thing back then). And my aunts and uncles lived in different parts of Flatbush but now we have Albemarle and Ditmas Park, Lefferts Gardens, it all kinda of made up by real estate people to make things sound "nicer".

I grew up about 10 blocks from Chris Mullin but his neighborhood was either Flatlands or Marine Park, though back then among Catholics you went by Parishes not neighborhood names, so St. Jerome's vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, but my neighborhood had the BB mecca Foster Park.

I delivered flowers in Bklyn during high school and college and got to know all of the areas in Bklyn very well, so all the talk about Brownsville versus East NY brought back a flood of memories, thanks, guys.[/quote]

Its funny you mention the renaming of neighborhoods. I identify more with growing up in Bushwick than by Highland Park. Both my parents were from Bushwick and my Grandparents and countless relatives lived there. We moved there when I was about 11. Anyhow when the Williamsburg real estate market took off, brokers started calling parts of Bushwick(especially those along the L train stops) "East Williamsburg" in an effort to make it sound more appealing. Of course then the Bushwick market took off it was back to being called Bushwick. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years if they don't start calling parts of Williamsburg "West Bushwick". Or possibly even calling parts of ENY "East Brownsville" lol.[/quote]

Some of our Brooklyn peeps will remember South Brooklyn.  That name went out of fashion in the 70s when gentrification took place and real estate brokers listed properties in old South Brooklyn neighborhoods as Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, Columbia Heights, and Gowanus.  Portions of Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill were granted landmark status in the 1970s and were carved out of Red Hook. 

Monte, my first summer job as a teen was in Bushwick at the old Paramount Macaroni Plant. My friend's dad was brought over from Italy to be the head pasta maker. I brought home a years' supply of pasta because broken pasta visible from the plastic window on the boxes were pulled. :)
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=272966][quote="Monte" post=272961][quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=272946]Monte and '72 you guys are so funny over the different neighborhoods. Meanwhile I grew up in Flatbush but now they call it East Flatbush (no such thing back then). And my aunts and uncles lived in different parts of Flatbush but now we have Albemarle and Ditmas Park, Lefferts Gardens, it all kinda of made up by real estate people to make things sound "nicer".

I grew up about 10 blocks from Chris Mullin but his neighborhood was either Flatlands or Marine Park, though back then among Catholics you went by Parishes not neighborhood names, so St. Jerome's vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, but my neighborhood had the BB mecca Foster Park.

I delivered flowers in Bklyn during high school and college and got to know all of the areas in Bklyn very well, so all the talk about Brownsville versus East NY brought back a flood of memories, thanks, guys.[/quote]

Its funny you mention the renaming of neighborhoods. I identify more with growing up in Bushwick than by Highland Park. Both my parents were from Bushwick and my Grandparents and countless relatives lived there. We moved there when I was about 11. Anyhow when the Williamsburg real estate market took off, brokers started calling parts of Bushwick(especially those along the L train stops) "East Williamsburg" in an effort to make it sound more appealing. Of course then the Bushwick market took off it was back to being called Bushwick. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years if they don't start calling parts of Williamsburg "West Bushwick". Or possibly even calling parts of ENY "East Brownsville" lol.[/quote]

Some of our Brooklyn peeps will remember South Brooklyn.  That name went out of fashion in the 70s when gentrification took place and real estate brokers listed properties in old South Brooklyn neighborhoods as Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, Columbia Heights, and Gowanus.  Portions of Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill were granted landmark status in the 1970s and were carved out of Red Hook. 

Monte, my first summer job as a teen was in Bushwick at the old Paramount Macaroni Plant. My friend's dad was brought over from Italy to be the head pasta maker. I brought home a years' supply of pasta because broken pasta visible from the plastic window on the boxes were pulled. :)[/quote]

Holy F!!! The Paramount Macaroni plant overlooked the PS 123 Schoolyard. That's where I honed my schoolyard hoop and stickball skills. Right across the street was Foto's Pizzeria on the corner of Suydam St and Irving ave. Our meeting and hang out place. Spent a lot of time in Knickerbocker park as well. Drove past there this morning. I'm still always around there. Seems you and I travelled similar roads, literally.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=272966][quote="Monte" post=272961][quote="BrookJersey Redmen" post=272946]Monte and '72 you guys are so funny over the different neighborhoods. Meanwhile I grew up in Flatbush but now they call it East Flatbush (no such thing back then). And my aunts and uncles lived in different parts of Flatbush but now we have Albemarle and Ditmas Park, Lefferts Gardens, it all kinda of made up by real estate people to make things sound "nicer".

I grew up about 10 blocks from Chris Mullin but his neighborhood was either Flatlands or Marine Park, though back then among Catholics you went by Parishes not neighborhood names, so St. Jerome's vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, but my neighborhood had the BB mecca Foster Park.

I delivered flowers in Bklyn during high school and college and got to know all of the areas in Bklyn very well, so all the talk about Brownsville versus East NY brought back a flood of memories, thanks, guys.[/quote]

Its funny you mention the renaming of neighborhoods. I identify more with growing up in Bushwick than by Highland Park. Both my parents were from Bushwick and my Grandparents and countless relatives lived there. We moved there when I was about 11. Anyhow when the Williamsburg real estate market took off, brokers started calling parts of Bushwick(especially those along the L train stops) "East Williamsburg" in an effort to make it sound more appealing. Of course then the Bushwick market took off it was back to being called Bushwick. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years if they don't start calling parts of Williamsburg "West Bushwick". Or possibly even calling parts of ENY "East Brownsville" lol.[/quote]

Some of our Brooklyn peeps will remember South Brooklyn.  That name went out of fashion in the 70s when gentrification took place and real estate brokers listed properties in old South Brooklyn neighborhoods as Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, Columbia Heights, and Gowanus.  Portions of Carroll Gardens and Cobble Hill were granted landmark status in the 1970s and were carved out of Red Hook. 

Monte, my first summer job as a teen was in Bushwick at the old Paramount Macaroni Plant. My friend's dad was brought over from Italy to be the head pasta maker. I brought home a years' supply of pasta because broken pasta visible from the plastic window on the boxes were pulled. :)[/quote]

I think we've gone way past the threshold for being "off topic" lol
 
Getting sense Monte or 72 sold this cigar to Carmine. :)
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