Overseas Recruiting Strategy

Bad job by Zach because he appears to be paraphrasing. He should've quoted Fran because I don't think Fran said those words.

And if he did, he's dead wrong.

The overseas guards are light years ahead of local guards in regards to skillset and level of competition as most of them are playing against older players on a regular basis.

You're not going to find a local player with a consistent stroke from midrange and outside either.

I think recruiting overseas players is a gamble and I also think that Lavin does it because he's failed landing high level US players like he though he consistently would.

But I like the fact that he is recruiting foreign players because at least we'll start getting players who can stroke it from outside and hit FTs.

The lack of athleticism will hurt but we've tried it for years and it just hasn't worked.

US players aren't as enamoured by MSG and the city as they once were so many foreign players will be.

Either way, if we can't coach them up, this all is moot.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

I'm somewhat confused by your post. Are the foreign kids question marks? Grades or because they may not want to play in the US? I haven't heard that any of these kids is an academic question mark.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

He's reaching because his philosophy to recruit athletes who were simply slashers and Dunkers has failed.

I don't mind it but he's going to have to coach them up if he's still here.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

I'm somewhat confused by your post. Are the foreign kids question marks? Grades or because they may not want to play in the US? I haven't heard that any of these kids is an academic question mark.

Maybe he's just doing what the NBA's been doing for a long time and realized that NYC should give him an edge over the dumpy locations where most of the bigger programs sit.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

Why do you care? He's gone after this season no matter what according to you.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

There are just as many questions marks in America as there are overseas. Plus, we're never going to be competing with the elite programs for the can't miss HS prospects. When have we ever won those recruiting battles.
 
I like the international strategy if we are getting top level players to go with good players domestically. I think we need to add a couple of impact international players to get a pipeline going. Much easier traveling home from New York than from any other place.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

Why do you care? He's gone after this season no matter what according to you.

Yup, the party's over!

I can't wait for a real coach to come in here who wil bring much needed stability to this program. The fact that we have 13 scholarships and Felix Ballamou is playing in a game with our NCAA hopes on the line is preposterous.
 
Lavin will have a good recruiting class, make the tournament, AND will be extended!
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

Why do you care? He's gone after this season no matter what according to you.

Yup, the party's over!

I can't wait for a real coach to come in here who wil bring much needed stability to this program. The fact that we have 13 scholarships and Felix Ballamou is playing in a game with our NCAA hopes on the line is preposterous.

So you say he is gone but your father said he is hearing him be extended. Wonder which one will be right.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

Why do you care? He's gone after this season no matter what according to you.

Yup, the party's over!

I can't wait for a real coach to come in here who wil bring much needed stability to this program. The fact that we have 13 scholarships and Felix Ballamou is playing in a game with our NCAA hopes on the line is preposterous.

So you say he is gone but your father said he is hearing him be extended. Wonder which one will be right.

The Maven is saying the only talk of extension is coming from Lavin's camp and not that he is hearing extension from SJU sources. Monasch and his staff have cut off any communication with him and he is off limits. Maven wants Lavin out regardless of whether he wins 18 games or 25. He wants him out regardless of whether he signs a top 10 recruiting class. He will also tell you it is not personal. If you know the Maven you know it is personal!! I know he is in a 90 year olds ear every chance he gets. ;) I know he is on a one man crusade with Zags and Braziller to feed as much bad press as humanly possible about Lavin. With the Maven everything is personal so take all his banter with 5000 milligrams of salt. The one person the Maven has not been able to influence is the most important decision maker and that is the new president who is much more familiar with Lavin than a disgruntled alum. I don't love Lavin either, or Monasch (who deserves to be fired) and could care less about Tom Pecora but dragging their names publicly through the mud is unprofessional when done in a vile manner. Much of what he says in his anger unfortunately, as he would say in his own words, has steak but no sizzle and the big fella needs to relax. What will be will be. I am disappointed that our expectations for a new coach have revolved around names like Masiello, a lying deceitful loser, Danny Hurley whose entire family never gave St. John's the time of day and Cluess who, while a good coach with St. John's ties, is strictly a local brand name guy who will not be able to recruit with the big boys. You fire coaches who have had losing records and fail to attract recruits and not because you agreed to pay them a negotiated salary to make you relevant after an incompetent hire made you irrelevant over 6 years with losing records and low major recruiting. If you want Lavin fired you better give me Shaka Smart or Gregg Marshall or not waste my time with another 5 years of rebuilding.
 
Why are we reaching for foreigners when other programs in our league are able to bring in top level talent from America?

Isn't Lavin's MO supposed to be that he is some sort of wizard recruiter? Why then is he "reaching" for kids who will be question marks?

Why do you care? He's gone after this season no matter what according to you.

Yup, the party's over!

I can't wait for a real coach to come in here who wil bring much needed stability to this program. The fact that we have 13 scholarships and Felix Ballamou is playing in a game with our NCAA hopes on the line is preposterous.

So you say he is gone but your father said he is hearing him be extended. Wonder which one will be right.

The Maven is saying the only talk of extension is coming from Lavin's camp and not that he is hearing extension from SJU sources. Monasch and his staff have cut off any communication with him and he is off limits. Maven wants Lavin out regardless of whether he wins 18 games or 25. He wants him out regardless of whether he signs a top 10 recruiting class. He will also tell you it is not personal. If you know the Maven you know it is personal!! I know he is in a 90 year olds ear every chance he gets. ;) I know he is on a one man crusade with Zags and Braziller to feed as much bad press as humanly possible about Lavin. With the Maven everything is personal so take all his banter with 5000 milligrams of salt. The one person the Maven has not been able to influence is the most important decision maker and that is the new president who is much more familiar with Lavin than a disgruntled alum. I don't love Lavin either, or Monasch (who deserves to be fired) and could care less about Tom Pecora but dragging their names publicly through the mud is unprofessional when done in a vile manner. Much of what he says in his anger unfortunately, as he would say in his own words, has steak but no sizzle and the big fella needs to relax. What will be will be. I am disappointed that our expectations for a new coach have revolved around names like Masiello, a lying deceitful loser, Danny Hurley whose entire family never gave St. John's the time of day and Cluess who, while a good coach with St. John's ties, is strictly a local brand name guy who will not be able to recruit with the big boys. You fire coaches who have had losing records and fail to attract recruits and not because you agreed to pay them a negotiated salary to make you relevant after an incompetent hire made you irrelevant over 6 years with losing records and low major recruiting. If you want Lavin fired you better give me Shaka Smart or Gregg Marshall or not waste my time with another 5 years of rebuilding.

It's personal with albano because Lavin, like Norm before him, knows he's a turd.
Manetta let him be a groupie before the Norm days and that was a nightmare.
Just look at who this dredge hung with, the likes of Jarvis, Naclerio and Oliva.
You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.
It's never been about what's best for the program with him-it's always about him.
 
Bacically I am tired of hearing the flag waiving of not extending Lavin .I feel he has been doing better and that the has more to offer SJU You can lead a horse to water but sometimes you can not make him drink same is with recruits We now seem to be playing good basketball It is a total effort btw players and staff I said at the beginning of this yr Dom is next level potential many posters were down on him . Now opinions have changed. Lavin and players are our team now I stand behind them 100% at this point. Still feel he is a right fit of the future of our program Just my opinion which I know will be hammered
 
Bacically I am tired of hearing the flag waiving of not extending Lavin .I feel he has been doing better and that the has more to offer SJU You can lead a horse to water but sometimes you can not make him drink same is with recruits We now seem to be playing good basketball It is a total effort btw players and staff I said at the beginning of this yr Dom is next level potential many posters were down on him . Now opinions have changed. Lavin and players are our team now I stand behind them 100% at this point. Still feel he is a right fit of the future of our program Just my opinion which I know will be hammered

You shouldn't have to worry about expressing your support for the coach. Lord knows the Lavin bashers express no reservations about taking their constant pot shots. They (the ones that have one) don't even try to hide their personal agenda.
 
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