Storm Tracker
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=278822][quote="Storm Tracker" post=278804][quote="Beast of the East" post=278794][quote="Storm Tracker" post=278788][quote="Beast of the East" post=278724][quote="Storm Tracker" post=278719][quote="Beast of the East" post=278714][quote="Redmen07" post=278668][quote="Beast of the East" post=278652][quote="Storm Tracker" post=278634][quote="Beast of the East" post=278625]Norm was also a better basketball player than Anthony Mason at Springfield Garden High School. He even told us so.[/quote]
because we know being a good basketball player equates to being a good coach[/quote]
Norm Roberts got hired because he wasn't Mike Jarvis and Fran Fraschilla (prima donas) who both got fired as much for their attitudes as what they did or didn't do on the court. The school got tired of both of them. It's idiotic to point out whats been said here 10000000000000 times - that Mullin's 3 year record is worse than Norms.
Despite what some people say about Mullin, he didn't lobby for the job. The school reached out to him, and he took it to restore this program - no other reason. He is separated from his wife and daughter since they decided NY wasn't the best place for her right now, and he could easily have bailed then. But he committed to doing this job and from everything people very close to him have said hates losing more than anything.
To speculate that Mullin smiled through losing and doesn't care a bit is just horseshit to be honest. In my opinion, keeping the kids positive through an 11 game losing streak and instead of folding pulled out some impressive wins was a pretty masterful job. Mike Doherty self destructed at NC when his blue chip team started losing and every kid on his squad hated him by season's end.
We need better players. period. problem number 1, 2, and 3. We need more of them. problem 1, 2, and 3. Solve that and we will win more. A lot more.
When you see the roster that Loyola could assemble, you know it's possible and you also know the competition is enormous to get the best players. If Mullin can do it, he will be here. If he can't he won't. Everything else is nonsense.[/quote]
Attached photo take post Jan 9 loss to Georgetown.[/quote]
Do you want him to hit water coolers with a bat when the team strikes out. Great book for you to read - Bill Bradley's "The Values of The Game" In it he describes how in his rookie season he agonized after every loss. Finally his roommate and close friend Dave DeBusschere pulled him aside and told him, "Look, if you are going to make it in this league, you have to get over losses and just look forward to the next game."[/quote]
glad you are so content with losing[/quote]
I've sat through 40 seasons - all but one as a season ticket holder. I've been to the last 2 NCAA regionals that St. John's was in. The only season I wasn't a season ticket holder (but the spent more money on individual game tix than my season tickets cost) was Norm's last year. I figured if the university didn't care about winning, neither should I.
I'll tell you this - When it comes to basketball, Mullin is NOT a nice guy. D'Angelo once chirped that he thought he was a better shooter than Mullin, and Mullin's response was "Really? Any time" Once as Mullin became a well known HS entity, at a basketball camp some hotshot challenged him to a shooting contest. Starting close to the basket each hit shots and took a step backwards. The other kid missed early, but Mullin kept backing up and made 50 straight shots for effect, drilling all net behind the midcourt line before calling it a day, and long shutting the kid's big mouth.
At Syracuse in Mullin's senior year, St. John's ran Syracuse off the court. In the middle of the first half blowout Mullin stole the ball went ahead of the field, and his last dribble bounced it over the rim where he grabbed it with one hand and slammed it. No one ever saw that before from Mullin, and it was the exclamation point that shut up Syracuse fans.
No Mullin wants to win badly and shut up people who doubt him. I really hope that he shuts up guys like you, who may have been crapping their diapers when Mullin was proving to the nation what a winner he is.
Can he coach a winner? I don't know. But if he can't it doesn't mean that he isn't burning to be successful here. Of course you don't know that, because you have no idea who Chris Mullin is.[/quote]
Thanks for the novel about how old you are and how nobody is more loyal Than you (like we haven’t read this before). I hope Mullin proves me wrong next year too but I won’t hold my breath[/quote]
Frankly, you're an idiot and a troll. You can't read or comprehend and I'm sure your career is going fine as a result. Good luck.[/quote]
And quite frankly, you are an aging, smug, know-it-all, who has posted on this site 9000 times in a condescending manner to anybody you disagree with, by writing 1,000 word essays, citing obscure anecdotes from the 70s and 80s to make yourself seem like some kind of wise old man, but in reality you've just got a really bad case of loser denial.[/quote]
Far from the oldest person here not that it should matter. We've had users who remember the 1951 final four team. Others can describe the great Tony Jackson, who most if us missed. Our schools iconic coach is 93. But of course you don't respect experience and tradition because you are an idiot.[/quote]
LOL you dont know the first thing about me. I do know that you are the biggest blowhard on this forum and i know i am not alone in that thinking. please point to where i disrespected SJU tradition though (not counting your personal little blurbs).
because we know being a good basketball player equates to being a good coach[/quote]
Norm Roberts got hired because he wasn't Mike Jarvis and Fran Fraschilla (prima donas) who both got fired as much for their attitudes as what they did or didn't do on the court. The school got tired of both of them. It's idiotic to point out whats been said here 10000000000000 times - that Mullin's 3 year record is worse than Norms.
Despite what some people say about Mullin, he didn't lobby for the job. The school reached out to him, and he took it to restore this program - no other reason. He is separated from his wife and daughter since they decided NY wasn't the best place for her right now, and he could easily have bailed then. But he committed to doing this job and from everything people very close to him have said hates losing more than anything.
To speculate that Mullin smiled through losing and doesn't care a bit is just horseshit to be honest. In my opinion, keeping the kids positive through an 11 game losing streak and instead of folding pulled out some impressive wins was a pretty masterful job. Mike Doherty self destructed at NC when his blue chip team started losing and every kid on his squad hated him by season's end.
We need better players. period. problem number 1, 2, and 3. We need more of them. problem 1, 2, and 3. Solve that and we will win more. A lot more.
When you see the roster that Loyola could assemble, you know it's possible and you also know the competition is enormous to get the best players. If Mullin can do it, he will be here. If he can't he won't. Everything else is nonsense.[/quote]
Attached photo take post Jan 9 loss to Georgetown.[/quote]
Do you want him to hit water coolers with a bat when the team strikes out. Great book for you to read - Bill Bradley's "The Values of The Game" In it he describes how in his rookie season he agonized after every loss. Finally his roommate and close friend Dave DeBusschere pulled him aside and told him, "Look, if you are going to make it in this league, you have to get over losses and just look forward to the next game."[/quote]
glad you are so content with losing[/quote]
I've sat through 40 seasons - all but one as a season ticket holder. I've been to the last 2 NCAA regionals that St. John's was in. The only season I wasn't a season ticket holder (but the spent more money on individual game tix than my season tickets cost) was Norm's last year. I figured if the university didn't care about winning, neither should I.
I'll tell you this - When it comes to basketball, Mullin is NOT a nice guy. D'Angelo once chirped that he thought he was a better shooter than Mullin, and Mullin's response was "Really? Any time" Once as Mullin became a well known HS entity, at a basketball camp some hotshot challenged him to a shooting contest. Starting close to the basket each hit shots and took a step backwards. The other kid missed early, but Mullin kept backing up and made 50 straight shots for effect, drilling all net behind the midcourt line before calling it a day, and long shutting the kid's big mouth.
At Syracuse in Mullin's senior year, St. John's ran Syracuse off the court. In the middle of the first half blowout Mullin stole the ball went ahead of the field, and his last dribble bounced it over the rim where he grabbed it with one hand and slammed it. No one ever saw that before from Mullin, and it was the exclamation point that shut up Syracuse fans.
No Mullin wants to win badly and shut up people who doubt him. I really hope that he shuts up guys like you, who may have been crapping their diapers when Mullin was proving to the nation what a winner he is.
Can he coach a winner? I don't know. But if he can't it doesn't mean that he isn't burning to be successful here. Of course you don't know that, because you have no idea who Chris Mullin is.[/quote]
Thanks for the novel about how old you are and how nobody is more loyal Than you (like we haven’t read this before). I hope Mullin proves me wrong next year too but I won’t hold my breath[/quote]
Frankly, you're an idiot and a troll. You can't read or comprehend and I'm sure your career is going fine as a result. Good luck.[/quote]
And quite frankly, you are an aging, smug, know-it-all, who has posted on this site 9000 times in a condescending manner to anybody you disagree with, by writing 1,000 word essays, citing obscure anecdotes from the 70s and 80s to make yourself seem like some kind of wise old man, but in reality you've just got a really bad case of loser denial.[/quote]
Far from the oldest person here not that it should matter. We've had users who remember the 1951 final four team. Others can describe the great Tony Jackson, who most if us missed. Our schools iconic coach is 93. But of course you don't respect experience and tradition because you are an idiot.[/quote]
LOL you dont know the first thing about me. I do know that you are the biggest blowhard on this forum and i know i am not alone in that thinking. please point to where i disrespected SJU tradition though (not counting your personal little blurbs).
At the very least can you both please stop quoting each other we all get the back and forth.:blink:
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