[quote="Beast of the East" post=288267][quote="redken" post=288162][quote="Las Vegan" post=288156][quote="redken" post=288152][quote="Las Vegan" post=288146][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288101]Looks good. Although, I am not a fan of the "We Are New York's Team" on both baselines. Kinda like we're begging for respect.[/quote]
Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? [/quote]
Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]
I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.
St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.
We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.[/quote]
Which is why me as a New Yorker first and UConn grad second have always been a St John's fan.
Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? [/quote]
Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]
I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.
St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.
We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.[/quote]
Which is why me as a New Yorker first and UConn grad second have always been a St John's fan.