New hardwood court coming @ Carnesecca

Still looks better than before...not the best it can but better so I'll take it. Rome wasn't built in a day. The next things they need to work on are the seats and concessions. They should have a permanent Acquista's Trattoria booth inside. Such a great place to eat before games and have met Lou there...such a nice guy and down to earth but also has swagger. The guy was driven up to the curb in a black Mercedes...gangster! Anyway, I'm not asking for the world here...just better than popcorn and pretzels like high schools do along with little league. I believe they served food in the CA lobby a few times and their chicken parm wrap was amazing. They know basil is the key!

As for the seats, not sure what else there is to be said. I realize we can't have all seat backs, but the arena is 80% bleachers. IMO there should only be bleachers behind each basket...basically 80% seat back seats and 20% bleachers. Again, I'll go regardless because I'm a diehard but you won't lure casual fans as much. On a positive note I do like the new scoreboard and SJ lights...looks very cool. If they can get the AC working, comfier seats, and real concessions it would actually be a very nice experience.
 
We're putting lipstick on a pig IMO
Our "arena" is an absolute embarrassment
Many mid-major programs have much nicer home courts that ours
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=288176]We're putting lipstick on a pig IMO
Our "arena" is an absolute embarrassment
Many mid-major programs have much nicer home courts that ours[/quote]

I actually saw this as a positive. This was about the smallest "upgrade" you could make without sinking too much money into it and not being stuck with what you have. Obviously, many believe it to be far fetched, but a total rehaul of the arena i.e., modernization, bowl, chairs, etc is still whats needed. Doesn't need to hold much but it needs to be better for than ones it holds. Oh and btw ive never been to Carnesecca.
 
The vaunted Carrier Dome has steel benches, no backs, no A/C. It is much more uncomfortable than CA. It can feel like a hot box in there, they give you 14 inches for your ass. Their sound system is primitive. You have to park miles from the arena and then be a billy goat to climb the hills just to get to the arena. But I don't think I have ever heard or read about how terribly uncomfortable the arena is. Their fans are obnoxious, but they complain about everything concerning the team, but not the accommodations. Just saying.......
 
[quote="frank61" post=288207]The vaunted Carrier Dome has steel benches, no backs, no A/C. It is much more uncomfortable than CA. It can feel like a hot box in there, they give you 14 inches for your ass. Their sound system is primitive. You have to park miles from the arena and then be a billy goat to climb the hills just to get to the arena. But I don't think I have ever heard or read about how terribly uncomfortable the arena is. Their fans are obnoxious, but they complain about everything concerning the team, but not the accommodations. Just saying.......[/quote]

They also get 20000 people to come watch.
 
We would also get 20,000 to a game if we were the only game in town like Syracuse is. Syracuse is a college venue, NYC is a pro town.
 
[quote="frank61" post=288210]We would also get 20,000 to a game if we were the only game in town like Syracuse is. Syracuse is a college venue, NYC is a pro town.[/quote]

Carrier dome is a college venue. Plus they serve beer. Carnesecca is a high school gym.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=288213][quote="frank61" post=288210]We would also get 20,000 to a game if we were the only game in town like Syracuse is. Syracuse is a college venue, NYC is a pro town.[/quote]

Carrier dome is a college venue. Plus they serve beer. Carnesecca is a high school gym.[/quote]

The Carrier Dome is a small football stadium by big time college football standards and Syracuse football is only relevant in Syracuse. It is a terrible place to play basketball.
Carnesecca may be a very big high school gym by Texas standards but how many colleges will have the option of playing at Madison Square Garden, the Islanders Arena 5 miles from campus or in their home gym, which is still the biggest college arena in New York City?
We got it all baby!!
 
If we can be a consistent winner, go to the NCAA or NIT every year and be able to draw big crowds to the Garden, maybe a corporate sponsor would surface to help finance a new campus venue. We won't need empty slogans. The product will speak for itself.
 
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a better pic

thought the STJ logo outline would have now been the navy blue

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[quote="frank61" post=288207]The vaunted Carrier Dome has steel benches, no backs, no A/C. It is much more uncomfortable than CA. It can feel like a hot box in there, they give you 14 inches for your ass. Their sound system is primitive. You have to park miles from the arena and then be a billy goat to climb the hills just to get to the arena. But I don't think I have ever heard or read about how terribly uncomfortable the arena is. Their fans are obnoxious, but they complain about everything concerning the team, but not the accommodations. Just saying.......[/quote]

Maybe 'winning' is the magical ingredient...as to what determines what fans 'complain' about?
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=288243][quote="frank61" post=288207]The vaunted Carrier Dome has steel benches, no backs, no A/C. It is much more uncomfortable than CA. It can feel like a hot box in there, they give you 14 inches for your ass. Their sound system is primitive. You have to park miles from the arena and then be a billy goat to climb the hills just to get to the arena. But I don't think I have ever heard or read about how terribly uncomfortable the arena is. Their fans are obnoxious, but they complain about everything concerning the team, but not the accommodations. Just saying.......[/quote]

Maybe 'winning' is the magical ingredient...as to what determines what fans 'complain' about?[/quote]

I've continued to park in the CA lot even though I graduated my grad program in 2014 so I no longer have the pass. Been to tons of games and never got a ticket. There are always spots if you go early enough.
 
keep the old floor drill 4 holes in the ceiling to let the hot air out
 
haha..

that's too easy mjm…

they'll do a giveaway of evaporative cooling towels with STJ logo on them
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=288243][quote="frank61" post=288207]The vaunted Carrier Dome has steel benches, no backs, no A/C. It is much more uncomfortable than CA. It can feel like a hot box in there, they give you 14 inches for your ass. Their sound system is primitive. You have to park miles from the arena and then be a billy goat to climb the hills just to get to the arena. But I don't think I have ever heard or read about how terribly uncomfortable the arena is. Their fans are obnoxious, but they complain about everything concerning the team, but not the accommodations. Just saying.......[/quote]

Maybe 'winning' is the magical ingredient...as to what determines what fans 'complain' about?[/quote] It’s funny playing at Alumni hall was almost a guaranteed W during the 80 s. I don’t think too many fans complained then.
 
[quote="redken" post=288162][quote="Las Vegan" post=288156][quote="redken" post=288152][quote="Las Vegan" post=288146][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288101]Looks good. Although, I am not a fan of the "We Are New York's Team" on both baselines. Kinda like we're begging for respect.[/quote]

Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? :unsure:[/quote]

Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]

I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.

St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.

We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=288267][quote="redken" post=288162][quote="Las Vegan" post=288156][quote="redken" post=288152][quote="Las Vegan" post=288146][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288101]Looks good. Although, I am not a fan of the "We Are New York's Team" on both baselines. Kinda like we're begging for respect.[/quote]

Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? :unsure:[/quote]

Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]

I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.

St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.

We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.[/quote]

Very true...UConn may have had their golden years and Cuse is consistently a good program, but you will never hear them discussed even at their peak in the actual NYC area. Their fanbases seem to think this is the case when it's not. I remember a few years back when we were playing Georgetown essentially to get into the NCAA's and on the LIRR seeing more and more SJ fans jumping onboard. When we are relevant and I wear my SJ gear, I'm routinely stopped in the city, on LI, on trains, etc. asking if we won or just discussing the team in general. If that has already happened in some decent but not great years, just imagine if we become a regular top 25 tourney team. SJ is part of the very fabric of the NYC area. It's just different than Cuse and UConn which are in totally different regions. People living in the NYC metro area very likely have never even been close to Storrs or Syracuse in their lifetimes.

Back to the court, supposedly it's not finished yet and the outline will in fact be navy blue and not black.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=288269][quote="Beast of the East" post=288267][quote="redken" post=288162][quote="Las Vegan" post=288156][quote="redken" post=288152][quote="Las Vegan" post=288146][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288101]Looks good. Although, I am not a fan of the "We Are New York's Team" on both baselines. Kinda like we're begging for respect.[/quote]

Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? :unsure:[/quote]

Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]

I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.

St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.

We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.[/quote]

Very true...UConn may have had their golden years and Cuse is consistently a good program, but you will never hear them discussed even at their peak in the actual NYC area. Their fanbases seem to think this is the case when it's not. I remember a few years back when we were playing Georgetown essentially to get into the NCAA's and on the LIRR seeing more and more SJ fans jumping onboard. When we are relevant and I wear my SJ gear, I'm routinely stopped in the city, on LI, on trains, etc. asking if we won or just discussing the team in general. If that has already happened in some decent but not great years, just imagine if we become a regular top 25 tourney team. SJ is part of the very fabric of the NYC area. It's just different than Cuse and UConn which are in totally different regions. People living in the NYC metro area very likely have never even been close to Storrs or Syracuse in their lifetimes.

Back to the court, supposedly it's not finished yet and the outline will in fact be navy blue and not black.[/quote]

Did you hear that last part for certain.
 
[quote="Amaseinyourface" post=288270][quote="Mike Zaun" post=288269][quote="Beast of the East" post=288267][quote="redken" post=288162][quote="Las Vegan" post=288156][quote="redken" post=288152][quote="Las Vegan" post=288146][quote="JohnnyFan" post=288101]Looks good. Although, I am not a fan of the "We Are New York's Team" on both baselines. Kinda like we're begging for respect.[/quote]

Agree, just have "St. John's" on the baseline. We are not New York's team simply by saying we are. We have to earn it.[/quote]
Would you feel the same way if 'Cuse beat us to it? :unsure:[/quote]

Syracuse already beat us to it. We didn't like it when they proclaimed it. SJU is physically in nyc, unlike Syracuse or Conn., but we have no more right to claim "We are New York's Team," than DePaul can claim Chicago. Right now Loyola is Chicago's team. They earned it.[/quote]
Exactly ... but unlike Syracuse, which is 250 miles from New York City, Loyola is actually in Chicago, hence its claim would make sense. However, I'm quite willing to concede that 'Cuse is Upstate New York's team ... but not NYC's team, as implied.[/quote]

I don't believe Syracuse or UCONN magically becomes New York's team simply by proclamation or even by winning. When Syracuse or Uconn competed for national championships NYC did not become lit up with a sense of excitement or pride. They didn't elicit water cooler chatter or buzz on the subways, buses or streets. We didn't see a plethora of kids wearing their gear or bars tuning in to their games.

St John's, among those who follow college bball, does all of that when we win. My siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews follow st John's, maybe by extension because I went there, but more likely because we are located within city limits and have always gotten media coverage from local tv and newspapers.

We can envy their winning, but they will never be nyc's team because new Yorkers don't identify with either school the way they do with sju. All we have to do is win, and the love comes out.[/quote]

Very true...UConn may have had their golden years and Cuse is consistently a good program, but you will never hear them discussed even at their peak in the actual NYC area. Their fanbases seem to think this is the case when it's not. I remember a few years back when we were playing Georgetown essentially to get into the NCAA's and on the LIRR seeing more and more SJ fans jumping onboard. When we are relevant and I wear my SJ gear, I'm routinely stopped in the city, on LI, on trains, etc. asking if we won or just discussing the team in general. If that has already happened in some decent but not great years, just imagine if we become a regular top 25 tourney team. SJ is part of the very fabric of the NYC area. It's just different than Cuse and UConn which are in totally different regions. People living in the NYC metro area very likely have never even been close to Storrs or Syracuse in their lifetimes.

Back to the court, supposedly it's not finished yet and the outline will in fact be navy blue and not black.[/quote]

Did you hear that last part for certain.[/quote]

It appears (to steal from Paultzman hah) so.
 
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