No. However, I wish I more confidence in our commissioner.
NCAA & Power Conferences Lobbying Juggernaut
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Certainly looks like the Big East commissioner is doing exactly that.
Working hard, maybe...but are they working smart? History tells me otherwise.
Ummm…yes. 100 f*cking percent yes.
Yes
They meet, consult, discuss, calendar, etc. — just read Akerman press release when the big east was screwed on selection Sunday. Tell me if that gives you any confidence. They need to litigate. They only understand an antitrust treble damage lawsuit.
Football market dwarves ny basketball money. They can live without SJU. Rutgers will be in new football conference. Maybe Syracuse. They will also be scheduling basketball games in MSG. Doubleheaders. Duke, Purdue, Auburn, etc. The power schools are simply unwilling to share revenue anymore.
Technically OT, but not really since the BEC's capability to compete for recruits in the future hinges 100% on the the NCAA's policies and the Power 5 conferences' strategy to expand their brand and squeeze hoops-only conferences' revenue streams.
So, would a lawsuit against the NCAA have a chance in court and / or at least force policy changes that would protect the revenue streams of high-major basketball-only conferences?
So, would a lawsuit against the NCAA have a chance in court and / or at least force policy changes that would protect the revenue streams of high-major basketball-only conferences?
Anthony Mattia
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You may very well be correct. All speculation at this point. Unfortunately, I think we will have an answer relatively soon. Real question may be can the Big East secure a new TV contract before the hammer drops?
Bangkok Johnny
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I'm not suggesting we shouldn't post our opinions. I read them all and enjoy a lot of them. We're all frustrated, overthinking and waiting for things to happen that we have no control over. The tension is growing and it's going to be a half year before the team takes the court. In the meantime, we're speculating on who's going on jump ship and what kids' motivations for playing are, when we know little about them, really. The poor mods have been begging us to stay on topic, but...
Yes, in a sense. Are they doing SOMETHING, especially the media consultants and lobbyists, I am sure they are, after all they have to justify their existence (fees). Have they remotely been effective, accomplished anything? Not in the least, they are getting steamrolled. Did they make a single public statement regarding the NCAA lobbying the House, no; not until they got taken to the cleaners with their “share” of the retroactive NIL price tag.
Prove me wrong, show me one provable, concrete development that has put the conference in a better position via a vis, the P5. I will be glad to eat crow, I have no problem admitting I am wrong when I am wrong.
IMO, the NCAA and the football conferences threw down the gauntlet and went public with their opinion of the BE on Selection Sunday and “the Big East school presidents, its athletic directors, its media consultants, and its paid lobbyists” met it with the loudest, most deafening SILENCE I have heard in a long time.
A popular view on this Board--that I share--is that the BEC would benefit by litigating against the NCAA and the the P5?
If so, why wouldn't the conference speak out and at least increase public / media awareness of the P5's monopolistic strategy?
Would be interested to hear from some of our attorney posters what Big East prospects would be in litigation against power five and or NCAA. I don’t see it, but then again I was not an anti trust attorney.
Personally, I expect Big East is screwed in the long run.
Silly Donovan
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This thread has nothing to do with portal targets.
Very true Silly. Apologies for my post.
The 22 conferences outside of the P5 , should band together, sue the P5 and refuse to pay a dime of the settlement money until it’s done in a fair and equitable manner.
SJU stalwart
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That’s what I don’t understand. This just isn’t a Big East problem. It’s also a mid-major problem. Whether or not the Big East wants to be lumped in with non-P5 conferences, the non P5 conferences have the power of numbers, if not money. Why can’t they join together and reject the proposal and sue.
I know I must be missing something. But the NCAA tournament wouldn’t be this big money maker without Cinderella teams. Given two bad choices, the NCAA has decided to throw their lot in with the P5. They must be thinking about all the non-revenue sports and their own survival. (I think it’s a bad bet. Why does the P5 need them without basketball? ) But I still don’t get why the non-P5 schools have to take it instead of banding together.
Rocket
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The irony is that the football schools are trying to save money with a settlement on the backs of the non-P5. THEY were the BIG offenders in the suit.
Now, the non-power 5 schools can sue the NCAA for the excessive damages imposed on them.
Do it in a Manhattan court where the Big East headquarters is located.
Now, the non-power 5 schools can sue the NCAA for the excessive damages imposed on them.
Do it in a Manhattan court where the Big East headquarters is located.
This is nothing more than the NCAA and P5 conferences feeling they can have the non-football conferences foot a large part of the bill by dangling the “carrot” that they will remain part of “college sports” moving forward.
The time to have started maneuvering politically and financially to separate football and other sports, obviously primarily basketball, into separate solutions may have come and gone but the organized unity needed of non-P5 schools should have been led by the BE IMO, they are in the media centers and should have been strategizing and planning a long time ago. Outside of possibly the exact details, none of this should be a surprise.
The time to have started maneuvering politically and financially to separate football and other sports, obviously primarily basketball, into separate solutions may have come and gone but the organized unity needed of non-P5 schools should have been led by the BE IMO, they are in the media centers and should have been strategizing and planning a long time ago. Outside of possibly the exact details, none of this should be a surprise.