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[quote="Paultzman" post=402398]Originally undrafted

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors, agent Brian Jungreis of @ParLay_SE told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.[/quote]

Good for him - high motor, plays within team concept and is an underrated player
I was hoping that the Knicks might have a shot at getting him
They'll probably throw big money at some over the hill guy who is past his prime
 
Gordon Hayward is signing a 4 year $120M contract with Charlotte per Woj
So much for wanting to play near home in Indiana
Glad that the Knicks didn't get him - injury prone
 
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Jae Crowder is leaving Miami and signing with the Suns per Winderman
Could well open up a spot in the starting lineup in Miami for Harkless
 
VanFleet and Hayward are the guys I most wanted for the Knicks. Surprised about Hayward....thought the Butler product would be back in Indiana.
 
Although I would have liked Knicks to get Hayward, happy to see him come to Charlotte. If he stays healthy he will be great for the franchise and the younger players like Washington, Ball etc.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=402398]Originally undrafted

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors, agent Brian Jungreis of @ParLay_SE told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.[/quote]

For the foreseeable future it will be the Tampa Bay Raptors. Team playing the upcoming season out of Tampa. The Federal Government refused to allow the Raptors and visiting teams to play in Canada this season.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=402398]Originally undrafted

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors, agent Brian Jungreis of @ParLay_SE told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.[/quote]

This is the largest NBA contract ever given to an undrafted player
Congrats to Fred - a blue collar guy who has definitely earned it!!
 
I'll never really understand why scouts don't trust their eyes. VanFleet was the consummate floor general in college and so obviously an NBA player just by watching him on TV. I definitely wanted the Warriors to draft him that year for depth, more so now than ever after the two guys they landed didn't amount to anything.

He averaged more PPG this past season than I would have expected, but not shocked at all. The guy never stops working.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=402407][quote="Paultzman" post=402398]Originally undrafted

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors, agent Brian Jungreis of @ParLay_SE told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.[/quote]

For the foreseeable future it will be the Tampa Bay Raptors. Team playing the upcoming season out of Tampa. The Federal Government refused to allow the Raptors and visiting teams to play in Canada this season.[/quote]

Any word why it wouldn't be the Buffalo Raptors?
 
[quote="L J S A" post=402411][quote="redmannorth" post=402407][quote="Paultzman" post=402398]Originally undrafted

Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors, agent Brian Jungreis of @ParLay_SE told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.[/quote]

For the foreseeable future it will be the Tampa Bay Raptors. Team playing the upcoming season out of Tampa. The Federal Government refused to allow the Raptors and visiting teams to play in Canada this season.[/quote]

Any word why it wouldn't be the Buffalo Raptors?[/quote]
Yes, because they moved to Tampa. ;) :)
 
[quote="bamafan" post=402414]Would you rather spend the winter in Tampa or Buffalo? :)[/quote]

That is a good point. I guess I didn't think of it because guys making millions of dollars a year should suck it up and not act like whiny toddlers. :lol:
 
[quote="L J S A" post=402416][quote="bamafan" post=402414]Would you rather spend the winter in Tampa or Buffalo? :)[/quote]

That is a good point. I guess I didn't think of it because guys making millions of dollars a year should suck it up and not act like whiny toddlers. :lol:[/quote]

Toronto wanted to play in a Stanley Cup town. ;) Also Tampa has a good arena from a major league franchise point of view-not sure of Buffalo. From a NBA perspective, move Toronto (Tampa) to Southeast division and Washington to Atlantic division. Move to Tampa could also have had something to do with air travel to Buffalo in winter with its massive snowstorms. Furthermore, NBA may have to resort to "bubble" if they start next month so they wouldn't be in Toronto.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=402421][quote="L J S A" post=402416][quote="bamafan" post=402414]Would you rather spend the winter in Tampa or Buffalo? :)[/quote]

That is a good point. I guess I didn't think of it because guys making millions of dollars a year should suck it up and not act like whiny toddlers. :lol:[/quote]

Toronto wanted to play in a Stanley Cup town. ;) Also Tampa has a good arena from a major league franchise point of view-not sure of Buffalo. From a NBA perspective, move Toronto (Tampa) to Southeast division and Washington to Atlantic division. Move to Tampa could also have had something to do with air travel to Buffalo in winter with its massive snowstorms. Furthermore, NBA may have to resort to "bubble" if they start next month so they wouldn't be in Toronto.[/quote]

Stanley cup Town? When was the last time any Canadian team won the cup? Lol (Canadians in 93 :) ). I kid, I kid.
 
[quote="Moose" post=402302]Many say NY basketball is dead. The city still produces players. The problem is they leave for HS and College

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/status/1329286243776163842[/quote]

This infuriates me. Much of the reason HS'ers leave their schools to play for private academies are academics. This creates a system where athletes underperforming in the classroom are given an opportunity to play while their HS grades are raised. I suspect many of them helped these private schools create superb basketball teams that in turn help keep enrollment high and increase donations from alumni. Rather than be academically ineligible, it keeps them playing, and creates a transcript that colleges find acceptable.

Here's something I just learned that goes far beyond athletics - 1/3 of all freshman entering college are reading below grade level and required to take remedial reading courses. Many schools no longer call these courses remedial, lest they hurt feelings.

The whole thing sickens me how we abuse young athletes. The ones who don't make a lot of money playing basketball are left in a scrap heap of glory days and low career prospects
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=402469][quote="Moose" post=402302]Many say NY basketball is dead. The city still produces players. The problem is they leave for HS and College

https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/status/1329286243776163842[/quote]

This infuriates me. Much of the reason HS'ers leave their schools to play for private academies are academics. This creates a system where athletes underperforming in the classroom are given an opportunity to play while their HS grades are raised. I suspect many of them helped these private schools create superb basketball teams that in turn help keep enrollment high and increase donations from alumni. Rather than be academically ineligible, it keeps them playing, and creates a transcript that colleges find acceptable.

Here's something I just learned that goes far beyond athletics - 1/3 of all freshman entering college are reading below grade level and required to take remedial reading courses. Many schools no longer call these courses remedial, lest they hurt feelings.

The whole thing sickens me how we abuse young athletes. The ones who don't make a lot of money playing basketball are left in a scrap heap of glory days and low career prospects[/quote]
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Certainly today’s athletes are used by the current system but sixty years ago when I attended SJU eighty per cent of high school players were not accepted by colleges because of grades and played out their careers in the school yards. Today’s athletes would probably choose today’s system over the old one.
 
The model for doing it right is to be found in STJ's care for and support of Rob Thomas, blew out his knee but valued his life.
 
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