My pitch for Chris Mullin as Coach

Everyone knows everyone about Chris Mullin's basketball experience so I'm not going to convince anyone based on what he's done on the court at SJU, in the NBA, or as an NBA executive. That's in black and white to be decided on its own merits, subjectively for his qualification as coach.

My pitch has to do with Mullin the guy. Not, the player, not the man, and more appropriately da guy.

Mullin came to SJU as I was leaving as a new graduate still working on campus. He came in heralded of course, and we were all curious. One day in mid September, I saw this tall milk white kid outside outside of Alumni Hall. I guessed it might be him, so I went up to him. I introduced myself and welcomed him to St. John's. I'd told him that I was really excited to see him play, and wished him the best. There's something about chatting with Mullin. He never puts himself above you, and is always willing to chat.

After Mullin took the court, he shined like no freshman we'd ever seen at SJU. He was heads and tails the best player on the court, but more importantly, he made everyone else better too. My friends and I sat directly below his mom and dad, and aunts who were nuns. Nice people. I don't remember if it was the end of freshmen or sophomore year when the team was eliminated from the NCAA's. My friends traveled to a ton of away games and we were at the regionals. Milling around in the rotunda after the game, Mullin, who didn't know any of us personally, spotted us and came over. "I just wanted to tell you guys that I've seen you at so many of our away games, and I really appreciate how you supported the team." This was a kid, 19 or 20, with the goodness and kindness to approach fans just to thank them. Big plus.

When he was a junior, I ran into him around Union turnpike in the spring after basketball was over, and stopped him. I asked him if he knew anything he could share about Walter Berry coming here. As always, friendly and candid, he said he hadn't heard anything new, but sure hoped he was coming. No attitude - just two guys talking SJU hoops.

I remember just before the NBA draft, how a good friend of mine who hung around the SJU bars told me that he hoped Mullin would end up somewhere else. I asked him why, and he said he'd see Mullin in the bars all the time, destroying himself. He said he had to get the hell out of New York, or he'd end up dead. To Mullin's credit, he fought demons like a man, attained sobriety, something I believe he maintains today. He whipped himself into the shape of a marine, still looks the part, and his NBA career skyrocketed.

Funny story. My cousin worked in customs at JFK. It's now known that Chris' dad, a great man himself fought alcohol and attained sobriety. Rod was his supervisor. He had the respect of everyone, but my cousin laughed when he said that it was easy to work for him before he got sober but cracked the whip after. I have some friends who have 30, 40 years of sobriety attained one day at a time. To me, anyone who has been sober for so long has become rock solid in ways beyond keeping alcohol at bay. They are better men than had they never touched a drop. Rod is one, and Chris is another.

From the time my son was 8 till he was 17, I wrote to coaches and athletes and asked them to send him a birthday card I enclosed. Mullin was one of the guys who responded, and he sent a warm note in the card.

Now most recently, when he was inducted, there was something I noticed that was different about Mullin. Same old guy for sure. I brought my wife to the induction breakfast. In those days, she came to every single game, and sitting behind the SJU basket at the garden and behind the bench at Alumni Hall, we were often on TV, a testimony more to her looks certainly than mine. So when I asked her if she wanted to go to the breakfast, she didn't hesitate.

At the breakfast,before inductions, Mullin and Coach C. withdrew from their table, and sat together on a window sill with a cup of coffee for 15 minutes or so, undisturbed, just chatting. It was Chris' day, but there was something so comfortable about it, so much of him belonging here and not jsut for a day. After the induction, I asked my wife if she wanted to go up and chat with him, and maybe get a photo with him. She was more than happy to, and grabbed a pen for Chris to autograph her program.

Mullin when we approached him was so gracious and familiar. Before we could really speak he introduced us to an older brother who had played at Siena (I always confuse which borther played at Siena and which at Bridgeport). We told Chris that we sat right beneath his parents, and he joked, "Yup. One loud one, one quiet one." We chatted about his brother Terrence coaching at St. Francis de Sales CYO and that he is often a row behind us at CA. He was really patient as someone struggled with my camera to get a shot. After 4-5 tries it worked, and Chris, patient the whole time, smiled and said "Persistence!"

The whole point is, that if we are to return to prominence, and the kid of prominence that endures, if we are to recapture what was magical about St. John's, not just in 2011, or 2000, but back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s - the whole era, for my two cents having a guy on the bench who not only was the best who ever played here, but a guy who is from the city and is one of us, and is red and white through and through.

For the doubters about a heralded player becoming a great coach, only one player is inducted into the Hall of Fame as player and coach. He was the best player in college basketball, and then went on to become arguably the greatest coach. His name - John Wooden, and as anyone who knows would tell you, was a far greater man than coach. Not a bad guy for Mullin to emulate, even it it's aiming for the stars. Then again, hasn't Mullin always done that?

I am St. John's fan for over thirty five years mainly due to idolizing Chris. I would welcome him as coach.

Living in the past will not do the basketball program any good. Mullin has never coached, he wont be shooting any basketballs, and he wont be passing to the open man. He will be on the bench and will have to outsmart very experienced coaches. For the St Johns program to pick him leads me to believe they are only interested in plugging the dam with their finger as they hope the Mullin name will put people in the seats and will draw our attention away from the state of the program. The program is falling apart as the school plays musical chairs with coaching changes

You don't think Mullin had to outsmart players every time he stepped on the court? It's not like he just ran by everyone and played above the rim. He ran off every kind of screen known to man, and if he wasn't doing it perfectly and making sure his screeners were doing the same, he wouldn't have been anywhere near as good as he was.

It's no wonder why nearly every successful player turned coach played guard...from Hoiberg to Self to Izzo, Pitino, Cal, Ollie and Marshall.
 
Didn't read Beast's post (too long) but from others comments will take it that it was a great post. That being said hope the pitch is high and outside. Sorry but the lack of any coaching experience whatsoever concerns me and as for him having the advantage of recognition, I don't think he does to high school kids. Hasn't been on the local scene for decades so local HS kids won't know him even though he is a St J's guy, let alone HS kids around the country. Only 17 year old Jack Williams knows him and I don't think he is scholarship worthy otherwise he would have told us what a great player he is by now. Would prefer an experienced college coach who has proven he can do all the things required of a coach. That being said of course would support Mully, hope for the best and would be thrilled if he is successful.
 
My pitch has to do with Mullin the guy. Not, the player, not the man, and more appropriately da guy.

While I have no argument with your comments about what a great guy Mullin is, what I'd like to see is a 1,500 word case for Mullin the coach.

Because I can't help but remember that the case for Norm was what a great guy he was. Been there. Done that.

And by the way, I believe a case can be made for Mullin the coach. However a lot of that case would rest on his ability to hire other people.
 
Forget sentimental reason. Yeah, he is our all time best player, yeah that's great and all.
SJU should be asking who would be the best coaching casndidate. Who's the man that gives us the best chance to succeed.

That's what a smartschool/team should do.
 
My pitch has to do with Mullin the guy. Not, the player, not the man, and more appropriately da guy.

While I have no argument with your comments about what a great guy Mullin is, what I'd like to see is a 1,500 word case for Mullin the coach.

Because I can't help but remember that the case for Norm was what a great guy he was. Been there. Done that.

And by the way, I believe a case can be made for Mullin the coach. However a lot of that case would rest on his ability to hire other people.

Norm and Mullin are from New York City and both played basketball. The similarities end there.

Mullin is not a local guy...he's THE local guy.

It goes beyond being a nice guy...He's tough, smart, and a hard worker. Good luck finding anyone to argue any of those points.

He's a winner...5x all-star, Final Four at St. John's, 8 playoff appearances between Golden State and Indiana, two-time Olympic Gold Medal winner....

He's universally respected and adored to a level Norm could only dream about--and literally said during his interview that he did.

The only knock on this guy is that, while he has been involved in the NBA for nearly 30 years, he hasn't been involved with the college game for a very long time. Larry Brown wasn't either and took an obscure program to the national spotlight overnight. It's not like basketball is rocket science and it's not like Mullin wouldn't outwork every single coach he went up against just like he did to the opposition when he played.

He would be the only former NBA GM in the college ranks (to my knowledge) and his NBA contacts could only be rivaled by perhaps Larry Brown. Nearly every major recruit talks about making to the league and would be drawn to a guy with that experience and those contact (in good standing unlike many of Brown's).

He has formed so many relationships and planted so many seeds over the last 30 years, that recruiting would be a breeze.

Not quite 1500 words, but I don't think more is needed.
 
HS Coach to Mullin: So glad you are back at St. John's. What type of sets do you plan on running?

Mullin: Ummm . . . Can I get back to you on that one?
 
My pitch has to do with Mullin the guy. Not, the player, not the man, and more appropriately da guy.

While I have no argument with your comments about what a great guy Mullin is, what I'd like to see is a 1,500 word case for Mullin the coach.

Because I can't help but remember that the case for Norm was what a great guy he was. Been there. Done that.

And by the way, I believe a case can be made for Mullin the coach. However a lot of that case would rest on his ability to hire other people.

Norm and Mullin are from New York City and both played basketball. The similarities end there.

Mullin is not a local guy...he's THE local guy.

It goes beyond being a nice guy...He's tough, smart, and a hard worker. Good luck finding anyone to argue any of those points.

He's a winner...5x all-star, Final Four at St. John's, 8 playoff appearances between Golden State and Indiana, two-time Olympic Gold Medal winner....

He's universally respected and adored to a level Norm could only dream about--and literally said during his interview that he did.

The only knock on this guy is that, while he has been involved in the NBA for nearly 30 years, he hasn't been involved with the college game for a very long time. Larry Brown wasn't either and took an obscure program to the national spotlight overnight. It's not like basketball is rocket science and it's not like Mullin wouldn't outwork every single coach he went up against just like he did to the opposition when he played.

He would be the only former NBA GM in the college ranks (to my knowledge) and his NBA contacts could only be rivaled by perhaps Larry Brown. Nearly every major recruit talks about making to the league and would be drawn to a guy with that experience and those contact (in good standing unlike many of Brown's).

He has formed so many relationships and planted so many seeds over the last 30 years, that recruiting would be a breeze.

Not quite 1500 words, but I don't think more is needed.

Why not get Larry Brown then? He is a ny guy. Wouldn't have to kiss local coaches asses, and he has a great staff for a transition phase. I love Mullin but way too risky. I think Mullin doesn't understand the sneaker company game, the booster scams, the AAU scams that are run. Remember he was a stipend guy!
 
Greattt article

http://nypost.com/2015/03/28/the-sentimental-case-for-chris-mullin-to-reject-st-johns/


And in that time, in that place, there was but one basketball player worth talking about: Chris Mullin. To this day, 30 years later, we can recall, from memory, our five or 10 favorite Mullin moments.
True story: Not so long ago, at a basketball reunion, we were talking about our single-favorite moment.
It occurred Feb. 27, 1984, Alumni Hall, against Syracuse, a game the Orange actually would win, 82-81. Ron Stewart had the ball, top of the key. Mullin flashed to the high post, Stewart passed it to him, in one motion Mullin touch-passed it behind his head to Bill Wennington, Wennington flushed it.
 
Love Mullin. I understand he is a man of great character. I, too, idolized him and would say he essentially IS St. John's. I never met him, but I am reading such nice things about him. However, these personal accounts and memories of his playing days are coming straight from the heart. A basketball coach should not be chosen with one's heart.

We have been waiting over 10 years for a true basketball coach to fill this position. Let's go get Miller or Hurley. They have a proven ability to both recruit and coach. That is exactly what we have been clamoring for! Why role the dice?

Great player, great guy........never coached, never recruited. Rolling the dice.

I'm not going to dispute one word of what you said. I woke up early and came down to delete my post before anyone read it, and saw 28 replies. I expected to get dumped on. It's emotional and sentimental - a pile of goop. Then again, the things I wrote have little to do with X's and O's, but everything to do with the foundation on which SJU basketball sits.

Three years ago, Danny Hurley was coaching in the obscurity of Wagner College. I mean, do you knwo how easy it is to get a job at a place like that? Schools at that level still have PT coaches, guys who drive bread routes, or work in offices. Ten years ago, Mullin was an upper executive of an NBA franchise. Yea, he never coached a single game (except a few charity games here and there, notably one at SJU a couple of summers ago). But I'd also argue that for 4 years, he coached SJU from the court, directing traffic, encouraging teammates, and leading by example.

Funny, among the plays that people remember about Mullin, I have one that wouldn't be on anyone's list. It annoyed me. Mullin top of the key wide open at Alumni Hall - an uncontested layup for him. He squares to shoot, and instead zips a laser to Jeff Allen, wide open from 8 feet. Allen muffs the shot. I'm pissed - I mean Mullin passed up a layup, Mullin from 23 feet wide open is better than Allen or anyone else from 10. Still rankles me. But the thing is, Mullin was and is right. The right way to play the game is to involves teammates and get the best possible shot, and an 8 foot wide open shot, is better than a 23 foot shot. He taught me something that day, it's stayed with me, and given the chance, I believe he will teach kids who all have been the man in HS, how to play the game. Because for Mullin, there is only one way to play the game, beyond X's, or O's - a team game that is beautiful when played well.

What St. John's basketball needs - what COLLEGE BASKETBALL needs - is a great ambassador. For the game, for our tradition, for our university. Can you think of a better, more appropriate person than Chris Mullin? I can't, because one doesn't exist, and the closes thing for us just turned 90.
 
Well said Beast...

While he doesn't have the coaching experience, one thing is for certain...he would certainly have a presence in any gym with any of the top coaches in attendance...

some kids may be too young to remember him, but their coaches are not...word will get out...You Tubes viewed etc...

This is not the typical player that got over with athletic ability...he used his head, made quick decisions and just plain knew the game...I don't know if any moment in his college career epitomizes this more than the GT win in '85 when he was awareness and instincts made him simply let the clock run out...lot of guys may have inbounded the ball on instinct alone
 
My worry about Mullin would be he is basically a rookie coach trying to rebuild a program from pretty much Ground Zero since ex-SJU Coach Lavin has done an abomination of a job of filling the roster for the future and giving valuable scholarships to kids who aren't BE players.

Obviously, Mullin assembling a "home run" staff would be a great start. Mullin is very likeable. He doesn't come off like a snake oil salesman who will grasp at straws to save face like ex SJU coach Lavin. He is a genuine guy through and through and I think the fact that he has "conquered his demons" speaks volumes of his character.

Bringing in Barry R. Who has haunted us for years on the recruiting trail would be awesome, but again, big IF there. Kentucky and SJU are on different levels although I personally would rather live in NY than Kentucky and Slice is a NY guy through and through. So who knows....

Biggest concern is God forbid worst case scenario the Mullin experiment fails and in five years it's time to move on it would be very bad for SJU to have to part ways with the best player in our history. We already don't respect our past guys enough and although unintentional and a business move I think we would walk away with egg on our face there. A better option I like more is to make Mullin the AD he will not have to put in the long hours the coach does and he has NBA admin experience already so leading SJU can work I think.
 
Whether Chris was accommodating to you at a cocktail party is really no indication of how he'll do as a coach.

More pertinent is how he presents himself to recruits as in:

"Oh hai Scout Top 15 Player X! My name is Chris Mullin. You may remember me from such basketball institutions as The Dream Team, Run TMC and the Springfield Hall of Fame. I used to draft college players and hand out multi-million contracts. Oh and I just beat the entire Sacramento Kings in a 3-point shootout. Youtube that shit. Anyways, I'm currently coaching a team in New York City and looking for players....."
 
This is a bad idea. He doesn't need the money. He's old. He has no real ties to the current new York hoops scene and he's never coached. If this happens it will end badly.
 
Whether Chris was accommodating to you at a cocktail party is really no indication of how he'll do as a coach.

More pertinent is how he presents himself to recruits as in:

"Oh hai Scout Top 15 Player X! My name is Chris Mullin. You may remember me from such basketball institutions as The Dream Team, Run TMC and the Springfield Hall of Fame. I used to draft college players and hand out multi-million contracts. Oh and I just beat the entire Sacramento Kings in a 3-point shootout. Youtube that shit. Anyways, I'm currently coaching a team in New York City and looking for players....."[/quote

My God, I hope you are not a salesperson, if so change careers pronto. Mullin if he wants will have a story and a strong one for that matter. Does he want to deal with all the BS, at this is point in his life, would worry me. But just my opinion if he commits himself, I would welcome him.
 
My pitch has to do with Mullin the guy. Not, the player, not the man, and more appropriately da guy.

While I have no argument with your comments about what a great guy Mullin is, what I'd like to see is a 1,500 word case for Mullin the coach.

Because I can't help but remember that the case for Norm was what a great guy he was. Been there. Done that.

And by the way, I believe a case can be made for Mullin the coach. However a lot of that case would rest on his ability to hire other people.

Norm and Mullin are from New York City and both played basketball. The similarities end there.

Mullin is not a local guy...he's THE local guy.

It goes beyond being a nice guy...He's tough, smart, and a hard worker. Good luck finding anyone to argue any of those points.

He's a winner...5x all-star, Final Four at St. John's, 8 playoff appearances between Golden State and Indiana, two-time Olympic Gold Medal winner....

He's universally respected and adored to a level Norm could only dream about--and literally said during his interview that he did.

The only knock on this guy is that, while he has been involved in the NBA for nearly 30 years, he hasn't been involved with the college game for a very long time. Larry Brown wasn't either and took an obscure program to the national spotlight overnight. It's not like basketball is rocket science and it's not like Mullin wouldn't outwork every single coach he went up against just like he did to the opposition when he played.

He would be the only former NBA GM in the college ranks (to my knowledge) and his NBA contacts could only be rivaled by perhaps Larry Brown. Nearly every major recruit talks about making to the league and would be drawn to a guy with that experience and those contact (in good standing unlike many of Brown's).

He has formed so many relationships and planted so many seeds over the last 30 years, that recruiting would be a breeze.

Not quite 1500 words, but I don't think more is needed.

Well, wait a minute. Before Larry Brown went to rescue SMU, he had 45 years of coaching experience and 9 of those were in college (UCLA, Kansas). It's not exactly the same.
 
Chris Mullin is not just my favorite SJU player, he is my favorite athlete. However, we should be looking for a proven commodity as a coach. If Looie was retiring now with the program in great shape and lots of returning players, then why not. But we are in rebuilding mode. I want a coach that has rebuilt programs. Chris will have no time to ease into this. The first year or 2 can be ugly. I want a guy who has been through the ugly as a coach, and turned it into something better. A guy who needs this job, a guy with something to prove on the big stage. If it's Chris, it may turn out fine, depending on the staff. I just don't think this is the right time to take the chance.
 
If only nostalgia won games.

Hiring Mullin as coach is a splash hire and an emotional hire.

Would love to have him still connected to the school, preferably as an AD.

But head coach? Only if he had a coach in waiting on his staff like Jim Calhoun and Kevin Ollie.

To be a head coach has way too many responsibilities and I just cannot see Mullin chasing down recruits.

Some of our fanbase can't get themselves out of "the glory days". Time to move on.
 
Chris Mullin is not just my favorite SJU player, he is my favorite athlete. However, we should be looking for a proven commodity as a coach. If Looie was retiring now with the program in great shape and lots of returning players, then why not. But we are in rebuilding mode. I want a coach that has rebuilt programs. Chris will have no time to ease into this. The first year or 2 can be ugly. I want a guy who has been through the ugly as a coach, and turned it into something better. A guy who needs this job, a guy with something to prove on the big stage. If it's Chris, it may turn out fine, depending on the staff. I just don't think this is the right time to take the chance.

Great Post.......nailed it.
 
Whether Chris was accommodating to you at a cocktail party is really no indication of how he'll do as a coach.

More pertinent is how he presents himself to recruits as in:

"Oh hai Scout Top 15 Player X! My name is Chris Mullin. You may remember me from such basketball institutions as The Dream Team, Run TMC and the Springfield Hall of Fame. I used to draft college players and hand out multi-million contracts. Oh and I just beat the entire Sacramento Kings in a 3-point shootout. Youtube that shit. Anyways, I'm currently coaching a team in New York City and looking for players....."

+1000

Everything is about rubbing elbows with coaches, coaches lighting up a room, R&W dinners, donations, etc.

No one cares.

The Dream Team was 23 years ago. These 16-17 year old recruits weren't even born. Ask them to name 5 Dream Teamers not named Michael or Scottie.

Mullin is a great representative of the school and would be more than welcomed.

But the constant reminiscing is nauseous.
 
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