Mullin podcast interview

Chris Mullin is the greatest player to ever wear the St John's uniform. Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history. 

Regardless of what you think of them, St. Jean and Abdelmassih were the ones who saved SJU from historic disaster during those years. I will never forgive Mullin for doing nothing at St John's, while getting paid 8-10 million to do so. Though I still love him as a basketball player!
 
Maherstrodsmus when I called out that sitting on the scorers table nonsense :)
 
AlexSTJ post=439028 said:
Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history.
 
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C'mon now - y'all gotta be kidding with this.  Either that or you missed a couple of decades in there.
 
AlexSTJ post=439028 said:
Chris Mullin is the greatest player to ever wear the St John's uniform. Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history. 

Regardless of what you think of them, St. Jean and Abdelmassih were the ones who saved SJU from historic disaster during those years. I will never forgive Mullin for doing nothing at St John's, while getting paid 8-10 million to do so. Though I still love him as a basketball player!

I think he "stole" something like $13 million!
 
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lawmanfan post=439031 said:
AlexSTJ post=439028 said:
Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history.

 
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C'mon now - y'all gotta be kidding with this.  Either that or you missed a couple of decades in there.

 
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Mullin is second to last behind Norm. There will be nobody worse than Norm hopefully. 

And yes I put Brian Mahoney above Mullin because of his awesome first year with a bunch of Looie leftovers and the fact that he brought in an amazing amount of talent during his tenure except for a PG, which was his downfall.  


 
 
I’m not going to include Kevin Clark since he was an interim coach but the great Norm Roberts .445 winning percentage edged out Chris Mullins .447 as the worst coach in Redmen history. 

Chris made an NCAA barely Norm did not . Norm had more time to rebuild than Chris did. So Norm is the worst coach in the programs history.

 
 
lawmanfan post=439031 said:
AlexSTJ post=439028 said:
Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history.

 
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C'mon now - y'all gotta be kidding with this.  Either that or you missed a couple of decades in there.
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You might have a point. If he did nothing as the "Head Coach", do we really have any measurable metrics to judge?

Maybe we can compare the time spent in CA vs. NY? Let's talk about his presence at all the great local programs. How about the number of time he was not present for official visits?

Can you name a coach (Non-Interim) with a conference winning percentage lower than the Mullin's illustrious .278? Unless we want to credit St. Jean for that. He did do most of the shot calling during games.
 
19854ever post=439037 said:
I’m not going to include Kevin Clark since he was an interim coach but the great Norm Roberts .445 winning percentage edged out Chris Mullins .447 as the worst coach in Redmen history. 

Chris made an NCAA barely Norm did not . Norm had more time to rebuild than Chris did. So Norm is the worst coach in the programs history.


 
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Norm Roberts coached in a much tougher Big East conference, yet the conference winning % is still higher. Norm did more with less. He is also still a coach at one of the best programs in the country.

Mullin never made the field of 64. They had to get in via the play in games.
 
lawmanfan post=439031
AlexSTJ post=439028Chris Mullin is also the worst coach in St John's history.
 
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C'mon now - y'all gotta be kidding with this.  Either that or you missed a couple of decades in there.
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Definitely the worst.
Can you imagine the damage he'd have done to this program if he'd taken over when Norm Roberts did?  
We might never have recovered.  
Roberts wasn't a particularly good coach, and was clearly in over his head, but he was a hard worker and recruited guys that fit that profile.  
Roberts handed a team to Lavin that went on to win 21 games in Steve's first season with only Dwayne Polee as an addition. 
 
I can’t even believe I’m going to say this but if sticking ice picks and gouging out my eyes isn’t an option I’d rather see Norm as our coach over Mullin. Norm coached in a conference of hall of fame coaches. Doesn’t minimize Mullin the player one of the best ever and in my mind one of the 5 smartest ever but coaching wise I’d pick Norm if I can’t find the ice picks
 
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19854ever post=439037 said:
I’m not going to include Kevin Clark since he was an interim coach but the great Norm Roberts .445 winning percentage edged out Chris Mullins .447 as the worst coach in Redmen history. 

Chris made an NCAA barely Norm did not . Norm had more time to rebuild than Chris did. So Norm is the worst coach in the programs history.


 
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Was doing my best to resist participating in this thread in deference to those on here who have pleaded to let this subject die but couldn't resist this post's temptation. Comparing Norm to CM which coach is the one who lost to St. Thomas Aquinas by 33 points?
 
bamafan post=439044 said:
19854ever post=439037 said:
I’m not going to include Kevin Clark since he was an interim coach but the great Norm Roberts .445 winning percentage edged out Chris Mullins .447 as the worst coach in Redmen history. 

Chris made an NCAA barely Norm did not . Norm had more time to rebuild than Chris did. So Norm is the worst coach in the programs history.



 
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Was doing my best to resist participating in this thread in deference to those on here who have pleaded to let this subject die but couldn't resist this post's temptation. Comparing Norm to CM which coach is the one who lost to St. Thomas Aquinas by 33 points?

My friend played for STAC in the 80's and we went to that game together. Neither of us could believe the result.
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19854ever post=439037 said:
I’m not going to include Kevin Clark since he was an interim coach but the great Norm Roberts .445 winning percentage edged out Chris Mullins .447 as the worst coach in Redmen history. 

Chris made an NCAA barely Norm did not . Norm had more time to rebuild than Chris did. So Norm is the worst coach in the programs history.


 
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In fairness, Mullin only had 4 years here.  If he'd had 6 years like Norm I'm sure he'd have owned that record outright.  Especially with Matt A moving on to greener pastures.
 
I am a bit surprised that this has become a "Norm vs Mullin" debate.  Norm tried his best, couldn't coach at all, got not-good results.  Chris hardly tried, couldn't coach at all (or maybe he could if he had tried, we'll never know), got not-good results.  If you made me pick between those two then I would take Mullin over Roberts, probably.

However the undisputed champion of "worst coaching hire in SJU history" is the Jarvi.  Not even recruiting Marcus Hatten can redeem him.
 
I look at the Roberts era as penance for the stink of Jarvis.
 
Jarvis wasn't always bad coach.

He just got incredibly lazy and exceedingly arrogant, which made him a bad coach and person. 
 
MainMan post=439055 said:
Jarvis wasn't always bad coach.

He just got incredibly lazy and exceedingly arrogant, which made him a bad coach and person. 

He didn't "get" arrogant, he was arrogant when he came here.  I remember a Red White event in NYC where jarvi was introduced to us.  Part of his remarks included blatant references to RW members who owned businesses and how he would be glad to use/endorse their products.  He was especially keen on hooking up with someone who would give him a car.  He was trying to be subtle but simply came across as being a money grubbing leech.
 
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Harrington's experiment of hiring an individual with absolutely no D1 head coaching experienced to take over St. John's scandal ridden program that was headed to NCAA probation was unsuccessful.  Coach Roberts should never have been hired.

Likewise, Bobby G's experiment of hiring an individual with absolutely no coaching experienced to take over St. John's underperforming mens basketball program was also unsuccessful.  Mr. Mullin should never been hired.

But, lets stay positive.  AD Cragg hired an man with 20+ years college head coaching experience to head the St. John's men's program and the St. John's mens basketball program is today moving forward in the right direction under CMA.

Experience counts.
 
otis post=439060 said:
Harrington's experiment of hiring an individual with absolutely no D1 head coaching experienced to take over St. John's scandal ridden program that was headed to NCAA probation was unsuccessful.  Coach Roberts should never have been hired.

Likewise, Bobby G's experiment of hiring an individual with absolutely no coaching experienced to take over St. John's underperforming mens basketball program was also unsuccessful.  Mr. Mullin should never been hired.

But, lets stay positive.  AD Cragg hired an man with 20+ years college head coaching experience to head the St. John's men's program and the St. John's mens basketball program is today moving forward in the right direction under CMA.

Experience counts.
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Very true. My ice picks have been put away. I dont need to gouge my eyes out anymore
 
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