Mike Anderson - contract extended

L J S A post=434034 said:
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L J S A post=434010 said:
MCNPA post=434009 said:
Beast of the East post=434008 said:
Hopefully the school learned its lesson and have reasonable buyouts along the way so if things go bad he only gets a small Slice of the remainder and not a big Slice

if things “go bad” it would mean Mike Anderson had bud first losing season ever and I think he’d be more pissed about it than anybody.  The guy is a winner and a class act. I think we are in pretty good shape.




 
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I think when dealing with Anderson it's more a case of things "not going great enough" as opposed to "things going bad." He has a high floor, and since we're not a football school, I don't ever envision a scenario where his lower-than-high ceiling results in donors successfully calling for his head.




 
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I think the rap he gets for having a high floor/low ceiling needs to be framed properly...if you’re not cheating in the SEC, you have a hand tied behind your back. . . And, he still had one of the better records.

Once he gets going here he will be able to recruit well against most of the BE
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Just to be clear, I didn't even know he got a rap for high floor/low ceiling.

And by high ceiling, I meant 30+ wins every year like the Kentuckys of the world. I have no issue whatsoever with what I suspect Anderson will be giving us.
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Wasn’t meant as a rebuttal to your post. Just came to mind when you mentioned the “floor” and reminded me that a low ceiling reference has been posted on a few occasions
 
IDRAFT post=452642 said:
This seems worth a bump.
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ph man that was some fun reading. Lololololol. And for the record I was fine with the extension coming off last year too
 
Interesting and entertaining read. Yeah, I was a clear "no comment" on the extension. Amazing what can happen in less then a year. 
 
Monte post=452644 said:
Interesting and entertaining read. Yeah, I was a clear "no comment" on the extension. Amazing what can happen in less then a year. 
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Or as they say--In a New York Minute
 
Adam post=433999 said:
Surprised it happened this soon, but probably necessary for recruiting purposes. Assuming his original contract was 5 (?) years, then he'd only have 3 remaining. We need stability and CMA should provide that.

I feel CMA has accomplished less than Lavin in his first 2 years (Tournament bid plus first round pick), but far more than Mullin and arguably has the brightest future of the 3 given how much he has gotten out of lower level talent. I'd still like to see recruiting pick up and a Tournament bid, but extending him should help sustain the positive momentum of this program. Good call by SJU, certainly looking forward to this year.
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Lol I remember typing this out and my draft originally being more negative (mostly confused) given how early it seemed, but figured there was no point in being a downer and I was optimistic about this year. I still did leave in my concerns, though. 1. Mentioned it seemed too early (but was probably necessary for recruiting purposes), 2. Wanted to see better recruiting (ties into #1) and 3. Wanted to see a Tournament bid this year. All of my concerns thus far have unfortunately come true and that's resulted in a much worse season/outlook than I ever would've imagined.

This time I'll be more blunt for if this topic ever resurfaces again: this was extended way too early. It did not result in the positive momentum I was hoping for and CMA's recruiting remains a major concern. I am very doubtful he will ever be successful here, and I believe he'll be gone by the spring of 2023.
 
As others have noted, extensions are sometimes PR messages after reasonably good seasons that also is a recruiting tool. I was surprised Mike got one so early in his tenure, but not knowing the extension language, it is hard to gauge how locked in SJU is. Hopefully it has a degree of flexibility and terms that don’t take the school to the cleaners in the event of parting of the ways. “Hopefully” is the operative word. :)
 
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Too much is being made about the extension.  The buyout is all that matters (it is not like the extra years are guaranteed).  

I remember when Norm was extended after year 4 when a bunch of people were predicting he was going to be fired.  Everyone was like "Oh great he is going to be the coach forever under Harrington...." he was let go 2 years later.

Paultzman post=452657
As others have noted, extensions are sometimes PR messages after reasonably good seasons that also is a recruiting tool. I was surprised Mike got one so early in his tenure, but not knowing the extension language, it is hard tongauge how locked in SJU is. Hopefully it has a degree of flexibility and terms that don’t take the school to the cleaners in the event of parting of the ways. “Hopefully” is the operative word. :)
 
That's true, I've been trying to find out what the buyout is but it appears nobody here knows (or will say). That's the most important thing. 
 
fordham96 post=452660 said:
Too much is being made about the extension.  The buyout is all that matters (it is not like the extra years are guaranteed).  

I remember when Norm was extended after year 4 when a bunch of people were predicting he was going to be fired.  Everyone was like "Oh great he is going to be the coach forever under Harrington...." he was let go 2 years later.

Paultzman post=452657
As others have noted, extensions are sometimes PR messages after reasonably good seasons that also is a recruiting tool. I was surprised Mike got one so early in his tenure, but not knowing the extension language, it is hard tongauge how locked in SJU is. Hopefully it has a degree of flexibility and terms that don’t take the school to the cleaners in the event of parting of the ways. “Hopefully” is the operative word. :)
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Pretty certain that the extension came with a raise for CMA and his entire staff. I don't personally care how much the man makes, but the school should not be crying poverty to the fan base, while at the same time upping the salary of someone making millions per year for providing mediocrity. Also, how long was the  original contract that it needed to be renegotiated so soon? If it was 5 years there zero reason to renegotiate in the 2nd year. CMA wasn't going anywhere and if he was, the contract wasn't stopping him. Lastly, pretty sure that the facilities didn't change since last year, so kind of baffling that he was given an extension supposedly to help with recruiting, and now lack of facilities are being used as an excuse for poor recruiting. FYI all of these comments were not directed at you, just didn't feel like starting another post, 
 
Adam post=452663 said:
That's true, I've been trying to find out what the buyout is but it appears nobody here knows (or will say). That's the most important thing. 
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It probably wouldn't be financially advantageous to the school to give out that kind of information. Especially while at the same time crying poverty and asking for donations. The less informed the flock are, the easier it is to control them. 
 
Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but wasn't there some speculation that Anderson could use us as a stepping stone to bigger job, and the extension kind of put that to rest? 
 
I know the details.  

He got custom tailored suits, 2 patek Philippe watches, envelopes with cash for the poor, a caribbean vacation, and zero interest loans to his top assistant.

Maybe I'm confusing this.

No one would know the contract details except those who should at sju and CMA.   
 
Room112 post=452666 said:
Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but wasn't there some speculation that Anderson could use us as a stepping stone to bigger job, and the extension kind of put that to rest? 
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I wouldn't be shocked to learn that another school put out feelers to CMA after the job he did in 2 seasons here
 
I think I was pretty even-keeled here. I did notice Knight and Mean Gene were happy with the extension though./media/kunena/emoticons/grin.png
 
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