Midnight Madness - 2015

[L J S A]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

You mean the geezers who were the only fans going to games for years while young New Yorkers jumped on the Duke, UNC, Kentucky, and Syracuse bandwagons?

 

[Happy]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

Don't have a problem with the cost if this was planned better with a bigger performer to justify the cost. My understanding that the staff didn't want this event and there will be no scrimmage. If administration wanted to go big in Mullin year 1 they should have planned accordingly.

 

[Andrew]

When do they ever plan accordingly?

 

[STJ11Redmen]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

You mean the geezers who were the only fans going to games for years while young New Yorkers jumped on the Duke, UNC, Kentucky, and Syracuse bandwagons?

I've been to this event a few times, it's not geared for anyone who isn't in college. Save your time and your nickle and don't bother with this event. It's brutal.

 

[OLV72]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

Is there an open practice again at MSG? It was a good event last year.

 

[simplyred]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

You mean the geezers who were the only fans going to games for years while young New Yorkers jumped on the Duke, UNC, Kentucky, and Syracuse bandwagons?

I've been to this event a few times, it's not geared for anyone who isn't in college. Save your time and your nickle and don't bother with this event. It's brutal.

While I didn't go last year, I have also attended several. I always enjoy seeing the players and the excitement of a new season. I don't go for the musical act.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

Is there an open practice again at MSG? It was a good event last year.

I believe they're having an open scrimmage at Carnesecca on Halloween in the afternoon.

 

[mjmaherjr]

It's a glorified pep rally. This is probably their nice way of trying to keep the old geezers out without actually only allowing students to attend. Go to the open scrimmage in a few weeks, you'll see a lot more there.

Is there an open practice again at MSG? It was a good event last year.

I believe they're having an open scrimmage at Carnesecca on Halloween in the afternoon.

In costumes. It's game of thrones vs lord of the rings

 

[psk938]

absolutely absurd that they are charging for this and the same price as a game ticket. Make it a $10 ticket and you might make it worth it for some people to go. You will get absolutely no families or anything at this.

If this was a free event or cheap it could be a great way to increase the fan base and reach out to some areas that would create a buzz.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

absolutely absurd that they are charging for this and the same price as a game ticket. Make it a $10 ticket and you might make it worth it for some people to go. You will get absolutely no families or anything at this.

If this was a free event or cheap it could be a great way to increase the fan base and reach out to some areas that would create a buzz.

The buzz they want is college age kids making it a party atmosphere so recruits have a good time. They don't want the red sweater brigade discussing why the freshmen can't properly execute a pick and roll during the scrimmage.

 

[Moose]

The reason they are charging is because the act refused to perform unless they were charging. They actually had a previous act who refused to perform as well because he wanted tickets sold. This act was fine with students getting in for free and compromised on the non students having to pay.

As for the event itself I didn't go last year and not sure about the year before. For whoever said sell out last year don't they cut off half the building? I remember that when I last went. It is a student driven event but we know our students arent exactly breaking turnstiles when it comes to SJU hoops. If you can get some recent alums still young enough to appreciate the act dinging them for 20 bucks is pretty dumb because they will fill the holes and make it look more packed. You want a good crowd because you dont need recruits to see a half ass full arena.

 

[beast of the east]

Fortunately or unfortunately, the reason Bobby G. is investing so much in basketball is that he sees it as a revenue producing sport that must carry its own load in terms of profitability and maybe even carry all the expenses of the athletic department.

In a year where the team is picked to finish at the bottom of the Big East, season tickets went up another 8%. Last season they went up 8% over the previous year. Right now a family grossing 100K per year would have to fork over $1400 for two decent season tix, more than one week's net salary. Probably squeezing out middle class families.

An event like this shouldn't be about music, or revenue, or anything but generating a lot of interest for the season. Inviting in performing artists to draw students who don't give a care about basketball won't work and hasn't worked. Looking at the students who do attend all games, and sit behind the CA baskets, they are almost all guys, and almost all white. Really strange on a very diverse campus, but I am sure there are lots of reasons for that.

If you ask me, Midnight madness is all about basketball and amping up students. HAving a mini concert attached to it hasn't worked, so why continue that.

 

[TRabinowitz]

Fortunately or unfortunately, the reason Bobby G. is investing so much in basketball is that he sees it as a revenue producing sport that must carry its own load in terms of profitability and maybe even carry all the expenses of the athletic department.

In a year where the team is picked to finish at the bottom of the Big East, season tickets went up another 8%. Last season they went up 8% over the previous year. Right now a family grossing 100K per year would have to fork over $1400 for two decent season tix, more than one week's net salary. Probably squeezing out middle class families.

An event like this shouldn't be about music, or revenue, or anything but generating a lot of interest for the season. Inviting in performing artists to draw students who don't give a care about basketball won't work and hasn't worked. Looking at the students who do attend all games, and sit behind the CA baskets, they are almost all guys, and almost all white. Really strange on a very diverse campus, but I am sure there are lots of reasons for that.

If you ask me, Midnight madness is all about basketball and amping up students. HAving a mini concert attached to it hasn't worked, so why continue that.

I have to completely disagree with you on your strategy for Midnight Madness. It is largely about giving recruits a good atmosphere (and impression that we can have a good atmosphere). The student atmosphere at MM is usually pretty solid BECAUSE of the presence of a recording artist. If you make this just a basketball thing without a performer, the atmosphere would suck because you wouldnt have students filling most of the place and there wouldn't be a buzz. I do WISH it was about basketball and less about music, but if you get rid of the performer you kill the buzz and it reflects poorly for recruiting.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

Fortunately or unfortunately, the reason Bobby G. is investing so much in basketball is that he sees it as a revenue producing sport that must carry its own load in terms of profitability and maybe even carry all the expenses of the athletic department.

In a year where the team is picked to finish at the bottom of the Big East, season tickets went up another 8%. Last season they went up 8% over the previous year. Right now a family grossing 100K per year would have to fork over $1400 for two decent season tix, more than one week's net salary. Probably squeezing out middle class families.

An event like this shouldn't be about music, or revenue, or anything but generating a lot of interest for the season. Inviting in performing artists to draw students who don't give a care about basketball won't work and hasn't worked. Looking at the students who do attend all games, and sit behind the CA baskets, they are almost all guys, and almost all white. Really strange on a very diverse campus, but I am sure there are lots of reasons for that.

If you ask me, Midnight madness is all about basketball and amping up students. Having a mini concert attached to it hasn't worked, so why continue that.

When I was a student I missed more midnight madness' than regular season home games. The event was a snooze fest and I never had an interest in the performers they brought in. The way to drum up excitement among minority students is by winning and/or making games free. Do neither and they will not come to games.

 

[Moose]

In past years they would have the basketball and the old geezers would leave then leaving the students behind for the concert after. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[redfanO10101llkkjjj]

I'm a huge fan of the event and the excitement of a new season but I don't want to waste my Friday night sitting on the stands watching intros for 3 hrs and see a subpar performance. If anything i'll make it to the red/white scrimmage or wait til they're at the garden for their open practice and ill walk in for that.

 

[paultzman]

@coreyevans_10: The anatomy of Midnight Madness is a long and arduous one ~ Coaches weigh in on importancehttp://t.co/He54unEJaHhttp://t.co/K29t4bkQtd

 

[Amaseinyourface]

The reason they are charging is because the act refused to perform unless they were charging. They actually had a previous act who refused to perform as well because he wanted tickets sold. This act was fine with students getting in for free and compromised on the non students having to pay.

As for the event itself I didn't go last year and not sure about the year before. For whoever said sell out last year don't they cut off half the building? I remember that when I last went. It is a student driven event but we know our students arent exactly breaking turnstiles when it comes to SJU hoops. If you can get some recent alums still young enough to appreciate the act dinging them for 20 bucks is pretty dumb because they will fill the holes and make it look more packed. You want a good crowd because you dont need recruits to see a half ass full arena.

Out of curiosity moose, who was the first performer lined up?

 

[paultzman]

@davidarsenio10: Pope John XXIII sophomore guard @AtibaTaylor will be attending StJohnsBBall's Midnight Madness.

 

[beast of the east]

Fortunately or unfortunately, the reason Bobby G. is investing so much in basketball is that he sees it as a revenue producing sport that must carry its own load in terms of profitability and maybe even carry all the expenses of the athletic department.

In a year where the team is picked to finish at the bottom of the Big East, season tickets went up another 8%. Last season they went up 8% over the previous year. Right now a family grossing 100K per year would have to fork over $1400 for two decent season tix, more than one week's net salary. Probably squeezing out middle class families.

An event like this shouldn't be about music, or revenue, or anything but generating a lot of interest for the season. Inviting in performing artists to draw students who don't give a care about basketball won't work and hasn't worked. Looking at the students who do attend all games, and sit behind the CA baskets, they are almost all guys, and almost all white. Really strange on a very diverse campus, but I am sure there are lots of reasons for that.

If you ask me, Midnight madness is all about basketball and amping up students. HAving a mini concert attached to it hasn't worked, so why continue that.

I have to completely disagree with you on your strategy for Midnight Madness. It is largely about giving recruits a good atmosphere (and impression that we can have a good atmosphere). The student atmosphere at MM is usually pretty solid BECAUSE of the presence of a recording artist. If you make this just a basketball thing without a performer, the atmosphere would suck because you wouldnt have students filling most of the place and there wouldn't be a buzz. I do WISH it was about basketball and less about music, but if you get rid of the performer you kill the buzz and it reflects poorly for recruiting.

Good point. Can't disagree with that logic.