With so much flying around now about the future of the team, it is time to separate from the season that has been just completed and make assumptions about future signings/trades.
FU Turn in your Mets Fandom Card.A payroll that plummets $200M in one year, an owner willing to spend and a farm system that has more depth than ever.
Maybe it's time I start being optimistic....
Don't like Walker Beuhler - he'll break again soon. He's made no mechanical changes, so it's just a matter of time. (FWIW Manaea will break soon also. He went to Driveline and they found a couple of MPH on the fastball but screwed up his mechanics. Look at Chris Sale - that's him in two years.)I also like the idea of adding walker
Buehler…I think it was DK that mentioned that. The cold weather comment put me over the fence there.
Blake Treinen also really impressed me and will be a free agent. His ball was moving like crazy.
I’d also like to be the one that drives Maton to the airport when he is bought out for 250k.
Don't like Walker Beuhler - he'll break again soon. He's made no mechanical changes, so it's just a matter of time. (FWIW Manaea will break soon also. He went to Driveline and they found a couple of MPH on the fastball but screwed up his mechanics. Look at Chris Sale - that's him in two years.)
LOVE Blake Treinen. Get him!
And I'll pay your gas fare to get Maton to the airport. You cannot pitch scared, and he's scared.
I agree with Beuhler, but disagree on Maton. He was good when he first came, but was overused and had nothing left late in the season and postseason. He will not cost a lot and is worth bringing back.Don't like Walker Beuhler - he'll break again soon. He's made no mechanical changes, so it's just a matter of time. (FWIW Manaea will break soon also. He went to Driveline and they found a couple of MPH on the fastball but screwed up his mechanics. Look at Chris Sale - that's him in two years.)
LOVE Blake Treinen. Get him!
And I'll pay your gas fare to get Maton to the airport. You cannot pitch scared, and he's scared.
I'd say giving up 5 home runs in 6 innings of work (with a 8.53 era and four walks) fairly gets you singled out over the rest.
That's over the entire playoffs -- MIL, PHI and LA. He was awful in each series. He blew us the game against MIL.Well fortunately, I’ve watched enough sports to not single any player out over a short series where anything can happen and has to some of the best in the game, especially when the entire staff gave up 42 walks and 46 runs in 6 games.
You can cherry pick stats all you want, Maton pitched well at times and horrible at times, like pretty much every Met pitcher. And the discussion was actually about pitching scared and the Mets did not have a person on the staff that consistently attacked hitters, not one.That's over the entire playoffs -- MIL, PHI and LA. He was awful in each series. He blew us the game against MIL.
And if you go back to the first game of the double header against ATL, he also walked a guy and gave up a hit, which forced us to put in Diaz. So that's two more earned runs.
The one critique of Mendoza related to Maton which I am sympathetic with looking back, was that he used Maton in a 6-0 loss -- which was not only unnecessary, but then pitched him in two consecutive days later (including the ATL game I mentioned above). This set off a crazy thing where he pitched in four high leverage games in five days and never fully rested in general.
Cherry picking stats? I just mentioned his entire playoff performance. He pitched scared and didn't pitch well at all.You can cherry pick stats all you want, Maton pitched well at times and horrible at times, like pretty much every Met pitcher. And the discussion was actually about pitching scared and the Mets did not have a person on the staff that consistently attacked hitters, not one.
Standing had the same problems through the year all the Met pitchers had but he is a hero to you because of one game. Every Met pitcher was inconsistent, period end of story. We just look at sports differently.Cherry picking stats? I just mentioned his entire playoff performance. He pitched scared and didn't pitch well at all.
From our bullpen, you're forgetting about Ryne Stanek. Stanek was great for us, and didn't think he pitched scared at all. If it wasn't for his pitching in Game 5, we probably lose the series that day. I actually thought Garrett pitched fearless as well, I just don't think he's that good.
The conversation was actually about picking up Maton's 7.5 million team option. I don't think it’s great value since you want that type of money to go for a shut down 8th inning guy, so I wouldn't pick it up.
Stanek and Garrett did not pitch scared in the playoffs, IMO. Honestly, I don't think Butto pitched "scared" either he just unfortunately got smacked around.
As for Maton, he wasn't the only pitcher on the staff who struggled in the playoffs, but to me he made it the most clear that he isn't cut out for high leverage postseason baseball. He threw meatball after meatball, he would get the most visibly rattled after walks/hits and he had no go to strike out pitch.
The guy punched a locker and broke his hand in 2021 after giving up a freaking single to his little brother. I hope he is nowhere near our team next season