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We lost to Texas and Kevin Durant 77-76 in the game you were referring to. Anthony Mason Jr. missed a last second shot at the buzzer that would have won it, wasting a 22 point effort and six 3 pointers from Avery Patterson.

I was being facetious and referenced a game from Chris Mullin’s sophomore season. SJU defeated a Devin Durrant and BYU at MSG, behind Mully’s 22 points.
I think the only person who ever called Mullin "Mully" (or at least wasthe first) was Raftery, who also called him Chrissy. Looie called him Mo at times.

On that account Raftery admired SJU and Looie and sent flowers to the wake.
 
Debusschere was absolutely the lynchpin to the Knicks brief but spectacular glory years.

The amazing stat is what the Knicks record was before acquiring Debusschere, what it was during his Knicks tenure and what it was after he left.

Before the trade the Knicks had ten of eleven seasons well below five hundred (278-474 total regular season record during those eleven plus seasons until the trade). They were 18-17 in the 1968 season when they traded for Debusschere on December 19th, 1968.

After the trade, things immediately clicked for the Knicks and they went 36-11 the rest of that season. For the next five seasons the Knicks won 266 additional regular season games (53.2 wins per year), were always well over five hundred and won two NBA championships. The regular season record for the Knicks during the Debusschere years was 302-155.

Debusscherre retired after the 1973/1974 season and the Knicks immediately reverted to their pre-Debusschere form. Over the next 14 seasons they had ten losing seasons and only one season where they hit the 50 win mark. Over those fourteen seasons their regular season record was 516-634.

Frazier, Reed, Barnett, Bradley (later on Monroe and Lucas) were all time Knick greats, but without the lynchpin, Dave Debusschere, the Knicks greatness of that era probably never occurs.
Hard to determine for certain. Getting rid of Bellamy, who hoisted a ton of shots, and moving Reed to center also helped a ton. Throw in the maturation of Bradley and Frazier, making Cazzie a 6th man, the comeback from heart surgery of Dave Stallworth, and the off the bench production of Phil Jackson, and things came together quickly. No doubt, though, the DeBusshere was the missing piece of the puzzle who fit perfectly.

In 1968, the NBA franchises still persisted in not having all black teams, so the Knicks threw Howard Komives into the Bellamy-DeBusshere swap.
 
And the other center Knicks drafted with Reed was Bad News Barnes.
Jim Bad News Barnes was the #1 pick in the 1964 draft, Willis was taken by the Knicks in the second round.

Barnes was later traded in a package deal to Baltimore to obtain Walt Bells.

The Bad News nickname was also tagged later to Marvin Bad News Barnes of PC.
 
Okay you guys got me going down a rabbit hole looking at late 60s NBA playoff brackets. Was only five when the Knicks won in 1970 but know my history about that team (tomorrow the 55 anniversary of The Willis Reed game). Anyway in looking at the brackets The one seed played the three and the two seed played the four. Anyone know why ? I remember seeing this at Wimbledon in the late 70s early 80s and assumed just a weird British thing. Now I am really confused.
 
I think the only person who ever called Mullin "Mully" (or at least wasthe first) was Raftery, who also called him Chrissy. Looie called him Mo at times.

On that account Raftery admired SJU and Looie and sent flowers to the wake.
I vividly remember Coach Looie approaching Chris M when we made the Final Four saying: Mo we’re going!!!!
Great visual remembering the joy exchanged between the two of them.
 
Okay you guys got me going down a rabbit hole looking at late 60s NBA playoff brackets. Was only five when the Knicks won in 1970 but know my history about that team (tomorrow the 55 anniversary of The Willis Reed game). Anyway in looking at the brackets The one seed played the three and the two seed played the four. Anyone know why ? I remember seeing this at Wimbledon in the late 70s early 80s and assumed just a weird British thing. Now I am really confused.
Strange #2 gets the #4 and #1 gets #3---Larry O'Brien must have had too many beers when they managed that crazy seeding matchup.
 
I think the only person who ever called Mullin "Mully" (or at least wasthe first) was Raftery, who also called him Chrissy. Looie called him Mo at times.

On that account Raftery admired SJU and Looie and sent flowers to the wake.
I remember Bruce Beck calling him Mully during his years as host on the weekly Lou Carnesecca Show. Also PJ Carlesimo during 1992 Olympics.
 
Okay you guys got me going down a rabbit hole looking at late 60s NBA playoff brackets. Was only five when the Knicks won in 1970 but know my history about that team (tomorrow the 55 anniversary of The Willis Reed game). Anyway in looking at the brackets The one seed played the three and the two seed played the four. Anyone know why ? I remember seeing this at Wimbledon in the late 70s early 80s and assumed just a weird British thing. Now I am really confused.
Thought may have been to try and get two more competitive series.
 
Hard to determine for certain. Getting rid of Bellamy, who hoisted a ton of shots, and moving Reed to center also helped a ton. Throw in the maturation of Bradley and Frazier, making Cazzie a 6th man, the comeback from heart surgery of Dave Stallworth, and the off the bench production of Phil Jackson, and things came together quickly. No doubt, though, the DeBusshere was the missing piece of the puzzle who fit perfectly.

In 1968, the NBA franchises still persisted in not having all black teams, so the Knicks threw Howard Komives into the Bellamy-DeBusshere swap.
And the great Minutemen led by Mike Riordan. Coach Holzman would bring them in for a spark, or give a foul, or give the starters a quick rest.
 
And the great Minutemen led by Mike Riordan. Coach Holzman would bring them in for a spark, or give a foul, or give the starters a quick rest.
Every now and then Red Holzman would sub out maybe 4 or even 5 players, sort of like a complete second string lineup, give all 5 starters a rest at once. Never see that today.
 
Every now and then Red Holzman would sub out maybe 4 or even 5 players, sort of like a complete second string lineup, give all 5 starters a rest at once. Never see that today.
Actually when the Knicks had a 9 man rotation last year Thibs would often do that at the start of the 2nd quarter leaving just one starter in. Like Red, he didn't do it for very long.
 
Dave retired to work on Wall Street. He was a fixture at Michael’s restaurant downtown at lunch entertaining clients. Nice guy, always pleasant.
He was a member of the Atlantic Beach Club circa roughly 1978-1983 as was my family. I spanned the ages of 3-8 in that period. I have hazy little kid memories of him humoring some of the dads playing pickup and toying with them.
 
Dave retired to work on Wall Street. He was a fixture at Michael’s restaurant downtown at lunch entertaining clients. Nice guy, always pleasant.
He lived on Hampton Rd in Garden City. If I got an early train I'd sometimes catch him, always with a 6 pack that he could finish by Jamaica. He was Knicks president when we got the lucky frozen envelope for the #1 pick in the 85 draft.
 
In today’s world Duncan would never play the 4. But he sure spent a lot of time there when he was playing.
 
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