Masiello put on leave

I know a guy who doesn't have his diploma but graduated. Doesn't have the diploma because he owes money on a parking ticket on campus and refuses to pay (he disputes the ticket and its a principle thing he says). But he knows he graduated.

I agree with the sentiment on how do you not know whether you graduated or not?
 
I know a guy who doesn't have his diploma but graduated. Doesn't have the diploma because he owes money on a parking ticket on campus and refuses to pay (he disputes the ticket and its a principle thing he says). But he knows he graduated.

I agree with the sentiment on how do you not know whether you graduated or not?
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To me, the way Masiello is handling it is as bad as not having it in the first place, maybe worse.

Here's a believable and acceptable response: (I don't know if it's historically accurate, but this is what the public would accept):

I finished my senior year just a couple of credits short of a degree and always intended on going back to finish it up, but then I had opportunities to get involved in coaching, and while it's always been out there, I just didn't get around to setting aside the time to spend a summer in Lexington. To be an assistant it wasn't required, and I wrongly had it on my reseume because I am very very close and did intend to finish. No matter the outcome of this, I am aware of the gravity of the situation, and fully intend to finish at Kentucky this summer. I apologize for the embarrassment this has caused anyone, especially Manhattan College, any employers contemplating me for employment, and to my family.
 
I know a guy who doesn't have his diploma but graduated. Doesn't have the diploma because he owes money on a parking ticket on campus and refuses to pay (he disputes the ticket and its a principle thing he says). But he knows he graduated.

I agree with the sentiment on how do you not know whether you graduated or not?
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To me, the way Masiello is handling it is as bad as not having it in the first place, maybe worse.

Here's a believable and acceptable response: (I don't know if it's historically accurate, but this is what the public would accept):

I finished my senior year just a couple of credits short of a degree and always intended on going back to finish it up, but then I had opportunities to get involved in coaching, and while it's always been out there, I just didn't get around to setting aside the time to spend a summer in Lexington. To be an assistant it wasn't required, and I wrongly had it on my reseume because I am very very close and did intend to finish. No matter the outcome of this, I am aware of the gravity of the situation, and fully intend to finish at Kentucky this summer. I apologize for the embarrassment this has caused anyone, especially Manhattan College, any employers contemplating me for employment, and to my family.
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You would think that as an athlete at Kentucky he could have found a no-show course to finish up.
 
Francesa has talked about the Masiello sitation a fair bit over last coupe of days.

Wonder if Mike would consider it "lying" if someone promised to establish a scholarship and then decided not to fund it.
 
Francesa has talked about the Masiello sitation a fair bit over last coupe of days.

Wonder if Mike would consider it "lying" if someone promised to establish a scholarship and then decided not to fund it.
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It would be funny if someone called his show, and said they wanted to apply for the scholarship that Mike set up in memory of his mom.
 
i keep thinking what is Manhattan College, which is in the Bronx, going to do? Is it a lie to call it Manhattan College, when it's about 20 blocks north of Manhattan? I don't know that either.. :) :p :cheer:

Seriously, Manhattan has been an excellent college for over 100 years. Highly touted Engineering program for a relatively small school.

At, one time in the 50's-60's they and Fordham were among our serious rivals in the City. As was NYU.

i hope this PR nightmare concludes soon, for all parties involved, Masiello, Kentucky,Manhattan, L'ville. It's not good for COLLEGE BB.
 
For Manhattan College’s sake I hope this ends soon. They should be in the news for all the positives that school has going for it, not this mess.

Major college sports, even on the scale of Men’’s NCAA D-1 BB at this small school is such a business, and money is so much a part of it, no matter what they do they have a mess on their hands.

I agree with the Post’s Vacaro, impose harsh, very harsh punishment, make his promise to get Degree ASAP, and move on.
 
The thing vaguely resemble the Pete Rose gambling scandal in baseball. Of course there is striking differences, so let's not get bogged down in that.

What Rose did was inexcusable and broke some cardinal rules in baseball, but had nothing to do with his performance as a player. He claims it never affected his decisions as a manager, and never bet against his team, but that's really a side issue in that his performance as a player was not affected by gambling as far as we know.

Masiello's lack of a degree has nothing to do with his success as a coach. But, as a prerequisite, he falsified his academic record, and as such, as a very public figure, it discredits himself and his employer. With one foot out the door in Manhattan anyway, they'd be advised to say adios.

In academia, academic credentials take on almost inappropriate proportions. I've always said that the only long term position I'd have aspired to had I stayed at St. John's was dean at a minimum, but in order to do so, I'd have to obtain a PhD. This would be regardless of any leadership or managerial abilities displayed. Without any desire to stay long term, nor any desire to pursue a PhD solely for that purpose, I left very early on.

In Masiello's case, had his little lie happened in a public sector job where he had already proven his ability to do the job, he'd almost certainly be disciplined to mildly reprimanded, but likely kept his job. Unless of course, he was in a position where licensure and degree was mandatory - say a surgeon. :)
 
The thing vaguely resemble the Pete Rose gambling scandal in baseball. Of course there is striking differences, so let's not get bogged down in that.

What Rose did was inexcusable and broke some cardinal rules in baseball, but had nothing to do with his performance as a player. He claims it never affected his decisions as a manager, and never bet against his team, but that's really a side issue in that his performance as a player was not affected by gambling as far as we know.

Masiello's lack of a degree has nothing to do with his success as a coach. But, as a prerequisite, he falsified his academic record, and as such, as a very public figure, it discredits himself and his employer. With one foot out the door in Manhattan anyway, they'd be advised to say adios.

In academia, academic credentials take on almost inappropriate proportions. I've always said that the only long term position I'd have aspired to had I stayed at St. John's was dean at a minimum, but in order to do so, I'd have to obtain a PhD. This would be regardless of any leadership or managerial abilities displayed. Without any desire to stay long term, nor any desire to pursue a PhD solely for that purpose, I left very early on.

In Masiello's case, had his little lie happened in a public sector job where he had already proven his ability to do the job, he'd almost certainly be disciplined to mildly reprimanded, but likely kept his job. Unless of course, he was in a position where licensure and degree was mandatory - say a surgeon. :)
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Pete Rose? Shocked you did not reference Ty Cobb. Sheez!
 
The thing vaguely resemble the Pete Rose gambling scandal in baseball. Of course there is striking differences, so let's not get bogged down in that.

What Rose did was inexcusable and broke some cardinal rules in baseball, but had nothing to do with his performance as a player. He claims it never affected his decisions as a manager, and never bet against his team, but that's really a side issue in that his performance as a player was not affected by gambling as far as we know.

Masiello's lack of a degree has nothing to do with his success as a coach. But, as a prerequisite, he falsified his academic record, and as such, as a very public figure, it discredits himself and his employer. With one foot out the door in Manhattan anyway, they'd be advised to say adios.

In academia, academic credentials take on almost inappropriate proportions. I've always said that the only long term position I'd have aspired to had I stayed at St. John's was dean at a minimum, but in order to do so, I'd have to obtain a PhD. This would be regardless of any leadership or managerial abilities displayed. Without any desire to stay long term, nor any desire to pursue a PhD solely for that purpose, I left very early on.

In Masiello's case, had his little lie happened in a public sector job where he had already proven his ability to do the job, he'd almost certainly be disciplined to mildly reprimanded, but likely kept his job. Unless of course, he was in a position where licensure and degree was mandatory - say a surgeon. :)
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Pete Rose? Shocked you did not reference Ty Cobb. Sheez!
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You are aware of course, that Ty Cobb did conspire to throw a game in his career? Cobb, who later in life became extremely wealthy through investments, was ticked that the owner of the Tigers would not share 3rd place money (in those days, the first 3 teams got money for finishing high). Angry that there would be no sharing if the Tigers finished third, they threw the last game of the season to finish out of the money.
 
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