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Needless to say, we have a lot of problems on the talent front, but Ellison is making things worse than they need to be. He has disrupted the chemistry of this team since his return from injury. He's too lazy, too selfish and not talented enough to be playing in the Big East.

He's a freshman, who would barley be logging any quality minutes on just about any past (and likely future) SJU team. He was an available recruit when we needed it, and he comes from an outstanding pedigree. Add Williams, Sima, and Lovett to this equation, and we might not see him more than 5 minutes per game, but right now we need him, and we need him to step up and hope that he's learning from his mistakes.

To me;
Keepers; Sima, Yakwe, Mussini & presumably LoVett, nice nucleus to build on.

Jury out on Williams & Ellison. Hopefully, freshman or not, Ellison will exhibit sufficient positives over remaining games to merit more optimism. In fairness to Williams, let's see how he comes back from injury next year. Must say in admittedly short sample, I was not impressed.
 
I understand where everyone is coming from but if we are as good as I think we will be in 1-2 years I am not bothered by this at all. I'm so confident Mullin will get it done what is happening right now doesn't make me that mad. Obviously it's a sucky situation but we lost by double digits to incarnate word, that was the night I accepted we would have this type of season.

And obviously I'm rooting like hell for these kids to get a couple wins to boost their confidence and morale. That's why I watch every game. Just because 0-18 doesn't bother me as much as others doesn't make me less of a fan. I wouldn't have watched some sh*tty CBS sports live stream feed during an NFL playoff game if I didn't care about this team
 
I understand where everyone is coming from but if we are as good as I think we will be in 1-2 years I am not bothered by this at all. I'm so confident Mullin will get it done what is happening right now doesn't make me that mad. Obviously it's a sucky situation but we lost by double digits to incarnate word, that was the night I accepted we would have this type of season.

And obviously I'm rooting like hell for these kids to get a couple wins to boost their confidence and morale. That's why I watch every game. Just because 0-18 doesn't bother me as much as others doesn't make me less of a fan. I wouldn't have watched some sh*tty CBS sports live stream feed during an NFL playoff game if I didn't care about this team

Throw this year away. But if we go 0-18 or 1-17 probably put pressure on Mullin to win 15-17 games next year.
 
Because we stink people keep bringing up former coaches. Jury is still out on Mullin but honestly all of the coaches after Louie have sucked in one way or another. Would be cool if they could have a celebrity death match style fight to see which was the best of the crappy former coaches.

I think Norm gets killed off first because in addition to being " a great guy" he was really dumb. I could see him falling for the Norm look over there trick, and when he looks you smash him over the head.

Mahoney would be next because he was evidently another great guy but I give him a slight nod over Norm in intelligence. He is another candidate for" hey look over there".

Jarvis was really lazy so I don't see him putting up much of a fight so he is next to go. Though I could see him offering to pay Lavin not to kill him. Lavin accepts but Fran kills Jarvis while Jarvis is taking a nap.

That leaves Fran vs Lavin for the title of best worst coach or least suckiest coach.
Fran has anger and his giant dong.
Lavin has the ability to create silly nicknames and his giant head.
I think Lavin tries to confuse Fran with nonsensical sayings while Fran circles him using his member as a lasso.
In the end the dong is more powerful than the cranium.
Fran wins by KO
 
In fairness to Williams, let's see how he comes back from injury next year. Must say in admittedly short sample, I was not impressed.

I guess this means you haven't heard anything.

I've actually assumed he was going to transfer for about two months now. No inside info, just feeling.
 
Maybe on the defensive side, but not real sure. I don't think he saw the court after the exchange.

He failed to close out on Duane Wilson, who hit corner threes on back to back possessions. He was gone after that.

I thought that was it too. My guess is that he learned his lesson. Thanks
 
In fairness to Williams, let's see how he comes back from injury next year. Must say in admittedly short sample, I was not impressed.

I guess this means you haven't heard anything.

I've actually assumed he was going to transfer for about two months now. No inside info, just feeling.

Just noticed he was there yesterday, but have not heard anything else.
 
Needless to say, we have a lot of problems on the talent front, but Ellison is making things worse than they need to be. He has disrupted the chemistry of this team since his return from injury. He's too lazy, too selfish and not talented enough to be playing in the Big East.

He's a freshman, who would barley be logging any quality minutes on just about any past (and likely future) SJU team. He was an available recruit when we needed it, and he comes from an outstanding pedigree. Add Williams, Sima, and Lovett to this equation, and we might not see him more than 5 minutes per game, but right now we need him, and we need him to step up and hope that he's learning from his mistakes.

To me;
Keepers; Sima, Yakwe, Mussini & presumably LoVett, nice nucleus to build on.

Jury out on Williams & Ellison. Hopefully, freshman or not, Ellison will exhibit sufficient positives over remaining games to merit more optimism. In fairness to Williams, let's see how he comes back from injury next year. Must say in admittedly short sample, I was not impressed.

Ellison reminds me of a right handed poor man's version of Tarik Turner. I realize Tarik was a PG and Malik is not. The kid does not seem to play with the same intensity as everyone else on the court. He has some skills but the lack of intensity combined with his lack of speed doesn't bode well for him at this level. As for Williams. I too was not impressed in the short time he played, however he does have Big East level athleticism, size and some skills sets, including decent form on his 3 pt shot. Still hoping they can both be contributors off the bench next year.
 
for all of you who think this is bad - imagine how bad it would be with Lavin and his all star recruiting class he had lined up? He is 100% responsible for the current disaster at St. John's.

Again, patience is needed here. This is the worst condition a new coach has ever inherited the SJU program - we knew this was gonna be a long process. Let the coaches do what they are doing. we will be fine.


It would have ben ^#%&#$*! horrible. Not only would we suck, and not only would we have nothing to look forward to, we'd have to listen to Lavin use his moronic clichés and put his nonsensical spin on things. Oh and let's not forget all the excuses. At least Chris is smart enough to say very little. Just not having to listen to Lavin makes this season so much more tolerable.
 
Needless to say, we have a lot of problems on the talent front, but Ellison is making things worse than they need to be. He has disrupted the chemistry of this team since his return from injury. He's too lazy, too selfish and not talented enough to be playing in the Big East.

He's a freshman, who would barley be logging any quality minutes on just about any past (and likely future) SJU team. He was an available recruit when we needed it, and he comes from an outstanding pedigree. Add Williams, Sima, and Lovett to this equation, and we might not see him more than 5 minutes per game, but right now we need him, and we need him to step up and hope that he's learning from his mistakes.

To me;
Keepers; Sima, Yakwe, Mussini & presumably LoVett, nice nucleus to build on.

Jury out on Williams & Ellison. Hopefully, freshman or not, Ellison will exhibit sufficient positives over remaining games to merit more optimism. In fairness to Williams, let's see how he comes back from injury next year. Must say in admittedly short sample, I was not impressed.

Ellison reminds me of a right handed poor man's version of Tarik Turner. I realize Tarik was a PG and Malik is not. The kid does not seem to play with the same intensity as everyone else on the court. He has some skills but the lack of intensity combined with his lack of speed doesn't bode well for him at this level. As for Williams. I too was not impressed in the short time he played, however he does have Big East level athleticism, size and some skills sets, including decent form on his 3 pt shot. Still hoping they can both be contributors off the bench next year.


Both will certainly becoming off the bench. In a short period of play yesterday Ellison had three turnovers of the five we had at the time. Besides being slow he is has no outside shot and does not dribble well, plus he picks up fouls frequently.
 
Maybe on the defensive side, but not real sure. I don't think he saw the court after the exchange.

He failed to close out on Duane Wilson, who hit corner threes on back to back possessions. He was gone after that.


He deserved it. Hello,anyone home Felix? Forget squashing the middle stay up on the three point shooters.
 
Because we stink people keep bringing up former coaches. Jury is still out on Mullin but honestly all of the coaches after Louie have sucked in one way or another. Would be cool if they could have a celebrity death match style fight to see which was the best of the crappy former coaches.

I think Norm gets killed off first because in addition to being " a great guy" he was really dumb. I could see him falling for the Norm look over there trick, and when he looks you smash him over the head.

Mahoney would be next because he was evidently another great guy but I give him a slight nod over Norm in intelligence. He is another candidate for" hey look over there".

Jarvis was really lazy so I don't see him putting up much of a fight so he is next to go. Though I could see him offering to pay Lavin not to kill him. Lavin accepts but Fran kills Jarvis while Jarvis is taking a nap.

That leaves Fran vs Lavin for the title of best worst coach or least suckiest coach.
Fran has anger and his giant dong.
Lavin has the ability to create silly nicknames and his giant head.
I think Lavin tries to confuse Fran with nonsensical sayings while Fran circles him using his member as a lasso.
In the end the dong is more powerful than the cranium.
Fran wins by KO

Another example of why marijuana is not legal in this country.
 
Because we stink people keep bringing up former coaches. Jury is still out on Mullin but honestly all of the coaches after Louie have sucked in one way or another. Would be cool if they could have a celebrity death match style fight to see which was the best of the crappy former coaches.

I think Norm gets killed off first because in addition to being " a great guy" he was really dumb. I could see him falling for the Norm look over there trick, and when he looks you smash him over the head.

Mahoney would be next because he was evidently another great guy but I give him a slight nod over Norm in intelligence. He is another candidate for" hey look over there".

Jarvis was really lazy so I don't see him putting up much of a fight so he is next to go. Though I could see him offering to pay Lavin not to kill him. Lavin accepts but Fran kills Jarvis while Jarvis is taking a nap.

That leaves Fran vs Lavin for the title of best worst coach or least suckiest coach.
Fran has anger and his giant dong.
Lavin has the ability to create silly nicknames and his giant head.
I think Lavin tries to confuse Fran with nonsensical sayings while Fran circles him using his member as a lasso.
In the end the dong is more powerful than the cranium.
Fran wins by KO

Another example of why marijuana is not legal in this country.

It's not?
 
Both will certainly becoming off the bench. In a short period of play yesterday Ellison had three turnovers of the five we had at the time. Besides being slow he is has no outside shot and does not dribble well, plus he picks up fouls frequently.

4 TOs, 5 fouls and 4 misses in 18 minutes. In a perfect world he wouldn't be playing at all. Even in a non perfect world he wouldn't be playing. Unfortunately everything is fubar. He does however have size and a BB pedigree. Twenty games is hardly enough time to make a judgment, even for the many NBA scouts who post here.
 
Give Lavin credit for taking the SJU administration out of the dark ages in hiring a head coach. Prior to Lavin SJU hired assistant coaches or mid major coaches. They felt with NYC as a recruiting base and MSG as home court it was unnecessary to pay big bucks for a coach.
This plan worked well for many years but with colleges building major arenas, more and more games being televised and other cities producing top recruits SJU slipped. With the collapse of the Big East it was looking possible that SJU was falling to mid major status. Because of this Lavin was able to secure a salary comparable to his position.
With this new president in control and the hiring of Mullin and his assistants it appears things have changed.
 
People think Ellison is slow? Struggling for sure but don't think any of it can be blamed on his athletic ability.
 
Give Lavin credit for taking the SJU administration out of the dark ages in hiring a head coach. Prior to Lavin SJU hired assistant coaches or mid major coaches. They felt with NYC as a recruiting base and MSG as home court it was unnecessary to pay big bucks for a coach.
This plan worked well for many years but with colleges building major arenas, more and more games being televised and other cities producing top recruits SJU slipped. With the collapse of the Big East it was looking possible that SJU was falling to mid major status. Because of this Lavin was able to secure a salary comparable to his position.
With this new president in control and the hiring of Mullin and his assistants it appears things have changed.

No, give the SJU administration credit for hiring a pedigreed coach, Lavin. Then having the smarts to fire him five years later.
 
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