Marcus LoVett Update

I usually wish the best and root for success for any player that played for us. Lovett is one of the very few exceptions , he quit on his school , teammates , and the fans! He ruined our season last year for his own selfish reasons.
 
Hold no animosity toward him,he did what he thought was best for him although I and many here would disagree with his choice I wish him well
 
[quote="usguard" post=301854]Hold no animosity toward him,he did what he thought was best for him although I and many here would disagree with his choice I wish him well[/quote]\\

Me too.
 
[quote="usguard" post=301854]Hold no animosity toward him,he did what he thought was best for him although I and many here would disagree with his choice I wish him well[/quote]

Then he should not have accepted a scholarship from the school, or at least left in time before the season began so we could replace him. Extremely selfish move.
 
He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.
 
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[quote="SJ_NYC" post=301869][quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.[/quote]

Absurd. Totally different injury and sport as well. Apples to oranges. A MCL sprain is nothing compared to RG3’s injury (partial to full tears of LCL and ACL). A MCL sprain is an injury that nobody crashes the season for, nor does it constitute a “bum knee”. It’s a minor injury.
 
Ohio State has a stud DE who got a little banged up a month ago and he decided he would mail it in and leave school in preparation for the draft.

That kid is Joey Bosa’s brother a projected top 5 pick who plays AMERICAN FOOTBALL a sport where you actually are in jeopardy of losing your career at any moment.

This selfish kid was nursing a minor knee injury and left the program out to dry. Not to mention his selfish decision should have been made prior to the season so a few players would not have left the program. If he had the talent to go with unapologetically selfish ego I could maybe understand it but he was OK at best and not an NBA talent.
 
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[quote="MCNPA" post=301870][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301869][quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.[/quote]

Absurd. Totally different injury and sport as well. Apples to oranges. A MCL sprain is nothing compared to RG3’s injury (partial to full tears of LCL and ACL). A MCL sprain is an injury that nobody crashes the season for, nor does it constitute a “bum knee”. It’s a minor injury.[/quote]

Nope.
2012 Season: Week 12 - RGIII sprains an LCL.
2012 Playoffs: playing on his "bum knee" - tears his ACL/MCL, etc.

[URL][URL]https://www.si.com/nfl/robert-griffin-cleveland-browns-injury-history[/URL][/URL]
You are framing RGIII's injuries completely incorrectly.

If LoVett didn't feel comfortable playing on knee that he had just injured and was healing up, then he has absolutely every right to not play anymore. This college basketball stuff is a business.. He made a career business decision for himself.

You think his decision didn't hurt his own prospects for a NBA/G-League shot? He was just trying to make the right decision for himself with imperfect information - like we all do when we make career decisions.

Take it easy on him - despite all you fans being upset that the season you root for was 'ruined' by one player's decision. Give me a break... the team was short on the bench, had no bulk, and didn't have enough experience.

St. John's has been terrible for the better part of 25 years now. Chirping at this kid isn't the problem.
He's not the quitter. The administration was the 'quitter' by going 'mom n pop' for the last 25 years.
 
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[quote="SJ_NYC" post=301878][quote="MCNPA" post=301870][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301869][quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.[/quote]

Absurd. Totally different injury and sport as well. Apples to oranges. A MCL sprain is nothing compared to RG3’s injury (partial to full tears of LCL and ACL). A MCL sprain is an injury that nobody crashes the season for, nor does it constitute a “bum knee”. It’s a minor injury.[/quote]

Nope.
2012 Season: Week 12 - RGIII sprains an LCL.
2012 Playoffs: playing on his "bum knee" - tears his ACL/MCL, etc.

[URL][URL]https://www.si.com/nfl/robert-griffin-cleveland-browns-injury-history[/URL][/URL]
You are framing RGIII's injuries completely incorrectly.

If LoVett didn't feel comfortable playing on knee that he had just injured and was healing up, then he has absolutely every right to not play anymore. This college basketball stuff is a business.. He made a career business decision for himself.

You think his decision didn't hurt his own prospects for a NBA/G-League shot? He was just trying to make the right decision for himself with imperfect information - like we all do when we make career decisions.

Take it easy on him - despite all you fans being upset that the season you root for was 'ruined' by one player's decision. Give me a break... the team was short on the bench, had no bulk, and didn't have enough experience.

St. John's has been terrible for the better part of 25 years now. Chirping at this kid isn't the problem.
He's not the quitter. The administration was the 'quitter' by going 'mom n pop' for the last 25 years.[/quote]

Rg3 was an undiagnosed tear, in a massive contact sport and is an absolute outlier. An MCL sprain without a tear is like twisting an ankle. An LCL sprain or tear is always more serious because multiple structures usually involved and in RG3’s case, they were. To compare to an extreme case like RG3 is not accurate honestly.
 
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Lovett, under the guidance of his father, had a history of moving from one place to another to find the better situation for himself. Didn’t he attend like 4 high schools all over the country? He almost left us before even suiting up for a game. I’ll assume that someone was dangling a bigger carrot in front of him. I don’t wish him ill. Although if I were him, I’d be really worried about that karma thing.
 
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[quote="MCNPA" post=301883][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301878][quote="MCNPA" post=301870][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301869][quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.[/quote]

Absurd. Totally different injury and sport as well. Apples to oranges. A MCL sprain is nothing compared to RG3’s injury (partial to full tears of LCL and ACL). A MCL sprain is an injury that nobody crashes the season for, nor does it constitute a “bum knee”. It’s a minor injury.[/quote]

Nope.
2012 Season: Week 12 - RGIII sprains an LCL.
2012 Playoffs: playing on his "bum knee" - tears his ACL/MCL, etc.

[URL][URL]https://www.si.com/nfl/robert-griffin-cleveland-browns-injury-history[/URL][/URL]
You are framing RGIII's injuries completely incorrectly.

If LoVett didn't feel comfortable playing on knee that he had just injured and was healing up, then he has absolutely every right to not play anymore. This college basketball stuff is a business.. He made a career business decision for himself.

You think his decision didn't hurt his own prospects for a NBA/G-League shot? He was just trying to make the right decision for himself with imperfect information - like we all do when we make career decisions.

Take it easy on him - despite all you fans being upset that the season you root for was 'ruined' by one player's decision. Give me a break... the team was short on the bench, had no bulk, and didn't have enough experience.

St. John's has been terrible for the better part of 25 years now. Chirping at this kid isn't the problem.
He's not the quitter. The administration was the 'quitter' by going 'mom n pop' for the last 25 years.[/quote]

Rg3 was an undiagnosed tear, in a massive contact sport and is an absolute outlier. An MCL sprain without a tear is like twisting an ankle. An LCL sprain or tear is always more serious because multiple structures usually involved and in RG3’s case, they were. To compare to an extreme case like RG3 is not accurate honestly.[/quote]

It's easy to say that when you are making a decision for him from the cheap seats. You weren't him, nor an athlete trying to making a career out of running faster, quicker and with more dexterity than your peers.

He made the business decision for himself to sit out and and protect his knee to further his career. If you don't like that, tell the coaching staff to have a deeper bench. This college basketball stuff is a business. There is no argument about that. He has to do what's right for him. Good for him.

This message board is a complete hypocrisy. Right now, a bunch of you are slamming LoVett for not being loyal and risking further injury because he didn't play on a knee he had just injured. The same bunch of louts on this board is essentially advocating for kicking a freshman off the team, to lose his scholarship - so the 'team' can sign a 6-9, 261-pound freshman transferee named Ian Steere. Where is the loyalty in that? It's a total hypocrisy. You all expect loyalty from LoVett, but many of you extend none yourselves.

Good grief.
 
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SJ-NYC. I disagree with you regarding Lovett. I do think he quit on the team for selfish reasons. However, I totally agree with you about the hypocrisy on this board. "Bunch of Louts" is an appropriate description for those that are constantly bitching about all things St. John's. Wouldn't it be nice if fans could just enjoy this season and root for and support their team win or lose. Too many of these "louts" want to make themselves more important than they are.
 
Lovett's move was purely selfish, in total disregard for the team and university. I heard someone on TV this morning who was being interviewed, and he wanted to quit something, and his father said, good, you don't have to continue, but finish what you committed to. Lovett quit, and the only way to describe him is QUITTER.

On top of that, when I worked at the University, as an employee I received free tuition for grad school. I left the University in November as an employee, but when I registered for classes in the spring semester, the university prorated fall tuition for the amount due for the time I wasn't an employee.

Lovett, as a scholarship player, received free tuition, room and board to play basketball for the school. Of course we don't charge athletes, but we received very little for what he was given in school costs last year.
 
[quote="AlBovino" post=301902]SJ-NYC. I disagree with you regarding Lovett. I do think he quit on the team for selfish reasons. However, I totally agree with you about the hypocrisy on this board. "Bunch of Louts" is an appropriate description for those that are constantly bitching about all things St. John's. Wouldn't it be nice if fans could just enjoy this season and root for and support their team win or lose. Too many of these "louts" want to make themselves more important than they are.[/quote]

They're (we're?) not louts. Just rapscallions.
 
[quote="SJ_NYC" post=301901][quote="MCNPA" post=301883][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301878][quote="MCNPA" post=301870][quote="SJ_NYC" post=301869][quote="MCNPA" post=301867]He abandoned us when he didn’t have to and tanked our season. Pulled up lame for his own selfish gain. No team player would ever do that. He mailed it in. I think it’s awful frankly. Don’t wish him badly at all, but I think he did SJU and his teammates, and fans dirty.[/quote]

Let's reach out and ask RGIII what's the right thing to do when you have decide between on playing on a bum knee vs. playing for the team.[/quote]

Absurd. Totally different injury and sport as well. Apples to oranges. A MCL sprain is nothing compared to RG3’s injury (partial to full tears of LCL and ACL). A MCL sprain is an injury that nobody crashes the season for, nor does it constitute a “bum knee”. It’s a minor injury.[/quote]

Nope.
2012 Season: Week 12 - RGIII sprains an LCL.
2012 Playoffs: playing on his "bum knee" - tears his ACL/MCL, etc.

[URL][URL]https://www.si.com/nfl/robert-griffin-cleveland-browns-injury-history[/URL][/URL]
You are framing RGIII's injuries completely incorrectly.

If LoVett didn't feel comfortable playing on knee that he had just injured and was healing up, then he has absolutely every right to not play anymore. This college basketball stuff is a business.. He made a career business decision for himself.

You think his decision didn't hurt his own prospects for a NBA/G-League shot? He was just trying to make the right decision for himself with imperfect information - like we all do when we make career decisions.

Take it easy on him - despite all you fans being upset that the season you root for was 'ruined' by one player's decision. Give me a break... the team was short on the bench, had no bulk, and didn't have enough experience.

St. John's has been terrible for the better part of 25 years now. Chirping at this kid isn't the problem.
He's not the quitter. The administration was the 'quitter' by going 'mom n pop' for the last 25 years.[/quote]

Rg3 was an undiagnosed tear, in a massive contact sport and is an absolute outlier. An MCL sprain without a tear is like twisting an ankle. An LCL sprain or tear is always more serious because multiple structures usually involved and in RG3’s case, they were. To compare to an extreme case like RG3 is not accurate honestly.[/quote]

It's easy to say that when you are making a decision for him from the cheap seats. You weren't him, nor an athlete trying to making a career out of running faster, quicker and with more dexterity than your peers.

He made the business decision for himself to sit out and and protect his knee to further his career. If you don't like that, tell the coaching staff to have a deeper bench. This college basketball stuff is a business. There is no argument about that. He has to do what's right for him. Good for him.

This message board is a complete hypocrisy. Right now, a bunch of you are slamming LoVett for not being loyal and risking further injury because he didn't play on a knee he had just injured. The same bunch of louts on this board is essentially advocating for kicking a freshman off the team, to lose his scholarship - so the 'team' can sign a 6-9, 261-pound freshman transferee named Ian Steere. Where is the loyalty in that? It's a total hypocrisy. You all expect loyalty from LoVett, but many of you extend none yourselves.

Good grief.[/quote]

Quitting mid season from a mi nmn or injury .
 
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[tweet][/tweet][quote="rawdognyc" post=302082]FML.... and I don't mean "F my life"[/quote]

Then we don't know what you mean so enjoy your secret meaning.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=302243][tweet][/tweet][quote="rawdognyc" post=302082]FML.... and I don't mean "F my life"[/quote]

Then we don't know what you mean so enjoy your secret meaning.[/quote]

this thread is about a player whose initials are ML

FML

This isn't rocket science...
 
[quote="austour" post=301995][quote="AlBovino" post=301902]SJ-NYC. I disagree with you regarding Lovett. I do think he quit on the team for selfish reasons. However, I totally agree with you about the hypocrisy on this board. "Bunch of Louts" is an appropriate description for those that are constantly bitching about all things St. John's. Wouldn't it be nice if fans could just enjoy this season and root for and support their team win or lose. Too many of these "louts" want to make themselves more important than they are.[/quote]

They're (we're?) not louts. Just rapscallions.[/quote]

Well gosh darn it color me bad!:whistle:
The irony of the color commentators who take umbrage with other's comments see no hypocrisy in calling fellow fans louts thereby becoming rude and offensive themselves. Too many of the politically correct police want to make themselves more important than their fellow fan. The "normal" fan roots for his team to "win" and is not happy when they lose.
"Wouldn't it be nice if fans could just enjoy this season and root for and support their team win or lose?"
WTF! Do you think those of us here in NYC spend thousands of dollars every year to be happy to win or LOSE? Do you guys think this is some CYO game where players and fans should be happy with "participation" points??
You don't pay coaches $2 million dollars just to show up. We, on the other hand, are so incompetent that we even pay coaches $600k to not show up!
 
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