Larry Wright
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First Larry Wright
Louie's Last Season
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First Larry Wright
The lasting memory I have was back when I was behind the bench and the "law" was not to say anything disparaging about the program too loudly. Me and my friend were saying something loudly to get Dee Brown in the game and Louie turn around to us and told us to "shut the f--- up".
Good times...Good times.
Good times...Good times.
Calzonetti story rings true. Lou was afraid of too much success because then there would be pressure to repeat it. It’s like when they used to tell a starting pitcher not to win 20 games because then he will be expected to win 20 every year. It’s why he failed to cash in on recruiting successes after his final 4 year.
L J S A
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It would have been nice if a guy universally loved and who renegotiated his contract every season with a handshake would have realized that there would never have been any real pressure put on him.
David Cain was better than Buchanan who was vastly overrated by SJ fans.i recall seeing Cain’s potential before his breakout season. Unfortunately, every time he made a mistake, Louie yanked him.
We were preseason #8 in the country, and two benchmark games were against #1 Duke @ Greensboro and #14 Indiana @ MSG. Both were not as close as the final scores and proof we were never able to live up to preseason hype.
That's an actual quote from Billy Loes...who pitched for the Dodgers. Orioles and Giants. He won 14 in his best season. Loes also claimed he muffed a grounder because he lost it in the sun.
Up until senior year Buchanon was solid and didnt make crazy mistakes which Looie loved. Buchanan wasn't overrated he was actually the least heralded of the incoming freshman. He just had a down senior year. I never saw Cain play in high school other than the clips on the news but Jason had a track record with Looie
And shot less.
Exactumundo.
Jason was the prototypical Lou PG: nothing too flashy, walk it up, don't turn it over, play some D.
He filled that role really well for 3 seasons so much so that many thought he could be an all conference type of player his senior year.
Didn't happen. Still don't know why.
Larry Wright
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Made tournament in his first 2 seasons. Starting shooting guard as a Soph
With that resume should put a statue of him in front of Louie arena.
Seriously got hurt came back and Mahoney tried to make him a point guard because he recruited 15 shooting guards and 0 point guards.
Actually whole roster was wings, power forwards and Zendon Hamilton.
Larry Wright
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Revisionist history.
Tough to play sporadic minutes but Cain was awful whenever he did play. Made it look worse was the fact that had that weird looking jump shot. Looked like Reggie Jesse jumper on crack.
Again Senior year was incredible.
Boo Harvey
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I remember traveling to the Omni to watch them play Tulane in the tournament. Sealy started the game on fire but alas they couldn’t beat the “Posse.” I was depressed although I did get a chance to see the “Fab 5” in-person.
Boo Harvey
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Believe the Indiana game was against Calbert Cheney who lit us up
We had high expectations going into the season. The Duke game was a rematch from the previous seasons Regional Final and we got knocked out. It took weeks to recover. The UCONN win started a turnaround but something was not right with that team all year. Very disappointing.
The 92 season featured one of the worst St. John's performances of the Louie era or really any era.
It even came with a surprise ending, with upstart Miami hitting 11 free throws and a 3-point shot by a freshman, Ochiel Swaby, in the final 6 minutes 41 seconds to upset the Redmen, 45-42, before 4,843 fans at the Miami Arena.
The result wasn't assured until St. John's Jason Buchanan missed a 3-point attempt in the final seconds and Hammie Ward of Miami wound up with the ball. Fans poured onto the floor at game's end and Miami's players leaped and waved fists in joy.
After all, it was the Hurricanes' first Big East Conference basketball victory, and it had looked for some time as if it would be a significant disgrace. At intermission, Miami found itself in the conference record book: fewest points in a half, 12.
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St. John's loses 45-42 to Miami, giving Canes first ever BE win
For a basketball game that looked for the longest time as if it was something from the peach-basket era, tonight's St. John's-Miami game certainly finished with all the pulsating drama of a Final Four game.It even came with a surprise ending, with upstart Miami hitting 11 free throws and a 3-point shot by a freshman, Ochiel Swaby, in the final 6 minutes 41 seconds to upset the Redmen, 45-42, before 4,843 fans at the Miami Arena.
The result wasn't assured until St. John's Jason Buchanan missed a 3-point attempt in the final seconds and Hammie Ward of Miami wound up with the ball. Fans poured onto the floor at game's end and Miami's players leaped and waved fists in joy.
After all, it was the Hurricanes' first Big East Conference basketball victory, and it had looked for some time as if it would be a significant disgrace. At intermission, Miami found itself in the conference record book: fewest points in a half, 12.
St. John's Sinks, Oh So Slowly, in the South (Published 1992)
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Boo Harvey
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Ugh, that was the same year? I forgot about thatThe 92 season featured one of the worst St. John's performances of the Louie era or really any era.
St. John's Sinks, Oh So Slowly, in the South
For a basketball game that looked for the longest time as if it was something from the peach-basket era, tonight's St. John's-Miami game certainly finished with all the pulsating drama of a Final Four game.
It even came with a surprise ending, with upstart Miami hitting 11 free throws and a 3-point shot by a freshman, Ochiel Swaby, in the final 6 minutes 41 seconds to upset the Redmen, 45-42, before 4,843 fans at the Miami Arena.
The result wasn't assured until St. John's Jason Buchanan missed a 3-point attempt in the final seconds and Hammie Ward of Miami wound up with the ball. Fans poured onto the floor at game's end and Miami's players leaped and waved fists in joy.
After all, it was the Hurricanes' first Big East Conference basketball victory, and it had looked for some time as if it would be a significant disgrace. At intermission, Miami found itself in the conference record book: fewest points in a half, 12.
St. John's Sinks, Oh So Slowly, in the South (Published 1992)
RedmanMike
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I remember watching those two games (neither of which were close) and thinking "we might not be as good as I thought" - Duke in particular was a beat-down.
RedStormRising
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Did we really start a thread to just to trash Louie for not being successful enough? This board has gone off the deep end.
Duke and Indiana were arguably the two best teams in the country that year. Duke was wire to wire number 1 and went back to back. I actually think IU was the 2nd best team and they lost to Duke in the Semi-Finals.
Indiana lost on the last Sunday of the regular season to Purdue costing them a share of the B10 title to Ohio St and Jimmy Jackson (they shared it with them the year before). It also cost them a likely number 1 seed that went to Ohio St. Most thought IU would get it with the tiebreaker being IU had swept OSU in the regular season as long as they beat Purdue but when they lost to Purdue they lost a share of the B10 title. So instead OSU got the number 1 seed in the Southeast and lost to Fab 5 Michigan in the Elite 8. Indiana got shipped out West to Boise and got the 2 seed. And proceeded to win the West beating Shaq and LSU in the second round, the 3 seeded FSU in the Sweet 16 and then blowing out number 1 seed UCLA in the regional Final.
The next year Knight probably had his best team since the 87 NC team. Cheaney was the consensus best player in the country. They went 17-1 in the B10. But Allan Henderson got hurt late in the season and they lost in the Regional Final to Kansas. Funny that the Final 4 was made up of 3 Number 1 seeds (UNC, Michigan and Kentucky) and a 2 seed-Kansas. Indiana who I think would have won the whole thing if Henderson had not gotten hurt was the only number 1 not to make the Final 4 losing in the Regional Final to Kansas.
Indiana lost on the last Sunday of the regular season to Purdue costing them a share of the B10 title to Ohio St and Jimmy Jackson (they shared it with them the year before). It also cost them a likely number 1 seed that went to Ohio St. Most thought IU would get it with the tiebreaker being IU had swept OSU in the regular season as long as they beat Purdue but when they lost to Purdue they lost a share of the B10 title. So instead OSU got the number 1 seed in the Southeast and lost to Fab 5 Michigan in the Elite 8. Indiana got shipped out West to Boise and got the 2 seed. And proceeded to win the West beating Shaq and LSU in the second round, the 3 seeded FSU in the Sweet 16 and then blowing out number 1 seed UCLA in the regional Final.
The next year Knight probably had his best team since the 87 NC team. Cheaney was the consensus best player in the country. They went 17-1 in the B10. But Allan Henderson got hurt late in the season and they lost in the Regional Final to Kansas. Funny that the Final 4 was made up of 3 Number 1 seeds (UNC, Michigan and Kentucky) and a 2 seed-Kansas. Indiana who I think would have won the whole thing if Henderson had not gotten hurt was the only number 1 not to make the Final 4 losing in the Regional Final to Kansas.
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