LJ Eligible

[quote="Mike Zaun" post=405836][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=405835]As if the NCAA wanted to get any Crazier , the idea of allowing Players to transfer at will from 1 School to another , destroys any semblance of the Student -Athlete definition . It would encourage Poaching of Players by other Schools . The idea of Justin moving to Pitt to play with his Brother or Vice Versa is mind boggling . Posh to Kansas or Duke is equally numbing . The 1 Year Sit out Rule for transfers was designed to prevent a Player transferring merely for individual enrichment or more PT or any one of dozens of reasons . It required the Player to give serious thought to exiting a School . Now , it’s going to be a Free Agency Circus , especially if the Virus continues and the 1 year waiting period is waived .[/quote]

Definitely a big deal...but I think players will stay if we have a clear system, clear expectations, family atmosphere, and we win consistently. Sure there will always be some upset over PT even on winning teams and transfer, but I don't see anything changing that much except rich getting richer and poor getting poorer which always happens anyway. The best recruits are still being paid at the end of the day. We are the upper middle class of college basketball conference wise I'd say. Better to be near top of pecking order or somewhere in upper middle here. Mid majors and low majors will get hurt the most IMO. Think Dayton, Robert Morris as Paultz said, STL, VCU, and even teams like Vermont. If we keep recruiting the right kids to fit and do a good job evaluating them not just as players, but as men (take GW and his father for example, very good people who trust CMA completely) then we should hopefully take less of a hit than others. Should still be enough to go around. It's a matter of convincing them to come here.[/quote]. Hope you are right . But , Players will still transfer , for 1 reason or another . The Education piece of Student Athlete doesn’t mean much to the Top 50 kids , interested in the NBA after 1 year . And , for the Money involved it shouldn’t . Which is why the 1 and done Rule is a Sham . Let those 18-19 year olds jump from HS to the NBA , if they think they are good enough .
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=405838][quote="Mike Zaun" post=405836][quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=405835]As if the NCAA wanted to get any Crazier , the idea of allowing Players to transfer at will from 1 School to another , destroys any semblance of the Student -Athlete definition . It would encourage Poaching of Players by other Schools . The idea of Justin moving to Pitt to play with his Brother or Vice Versa is mind boggling . Posh to Kansas or Duke is equally numbing . The 1 Year Sit out Rule for transfers was designed to prevent a Player transferring merely for individual enrichment or more PT or any one of dozens of reasons . It required the Player to give serious thought to exiting a School . Now , it’s going to be a Free Agency Circus , especially if the Virus continues and the 1 year waiting period is waived .[/quote]

Definitely a big deal...but I think players will stay if we have a clear system, clear expectations, family atmosphere, and we win consistently. Sure there will always be some upset over PT even on winning teams and transfer, but I don't see anything changing that much except rich getting richer and poor getting poorer which always happens anyway. The best recruits are still being paid at the end of the day. We are the upper middle class of college basketball conference wise I'd say. Better to be near top of pecking order or somewhere in upper middle here. Mid majors and low majors will get hurt the most IMO. Think Dayton, Robert Morris as Paultz said, STL, VCU, and even teams like Vermont. If we keep recruiting the right kids to fit and do a good job evaluating them not just as players, but as men (take GW and his father for example, very good people who trust CMA completely) then we should hopefully take less of a hit than others. Should still be enough to go around. It's a matter of convincing them to come here.[/quote]. Hope you are right . But , Players will still transfer , for 1 reason or another . The Education piece of Student Athlete doesn’t mean much to the Top 50 kids , interested in the NBA after 1 year . And , for the Money involved it shouldn’t . Which is why the 1 and done Rule is a Sham . Let those 18-19 year olds jump from HS to the NBA , if they think they are good enough .[/quote]

Luckily we don't have much to worry about with top 50 kids :)
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=405819]Wow...I'm surprised some think Cole would start over LJ. It's still super early, but so far outside of 1 red hot game, I have been a bit concerned. I just don't think we run a competent half court offense which is the type Cole would be most successful in. Designed plays to get him to catch and shoot. Not sure he has the handles to always convert in crazy back and forth play. Cole and Moore have buttery hands. Who would you trust more in the post and mid range and to finish? I'd say LJ easily there so far. He had lots of crazy floaters but they went in a lot. His first year here was fantastic...his last year was bad because he was not selective or efficient. Like Paultz said, I figured Oregon paid for him.[/quote]
I think LJ would have had a good year this season if he had stayed and played within the team concept.

However, he is a volume scorer, was not good in the post and his floaters were mostly off. His defensive ability was primarily built on long arms and quick hands which led to steals. He was in no way a good on ball defender as his footwork was not good.

That said, he would have had a good season had he stayed. But, he had other ideas and frankly don’t think he’ll see the minutes he would have gotten here.
 
[quote="Section3" post=405952][quote="Mike Zaun" post=405819]Wow...I'm surprised some think Cole would start over LJ. It's still super early, but so far outside of 1 red hot game, I have been a bit concerned. I just don't think we run a competent half court offense which is the type Cole would be most successful in. Designed plays to get him to catch and shoot. Not sure he has the handles to always convert in crazy back and forth play. Cole and Moore have buttery hands. Who would you trust more in the post and mid range and to finish? I'd say LJ easily there so far. He had lots of crazy floaters but they went in a lot. His first year here was fantastic...his last year was bad because he was not selective or efficient. Like Paultz said, I figured Oregon paid for him.[/quote]
I think LJ would have had a good year this season if he had stayed and played within the team concept.

However, he is a volume scorer, was not good in the post and his floaters were mostly off. His defensive ability was primarily built on long arms and quick hands which led to steals. He was in no way a good on ball defender as his footwork was not good.

That said, he would have had a good season had he stayed. But, he had other ideas and frankly don’t think he’ll see the minutes he would have gotten here.[/quote]

I don't think he would have lasted the year.
He would have quit on the team for the 3rd time. I think. Losing track it happened so many times.
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=405811]I'd still rather have LJ than not have him. It isn't just his scoring we will miss...it's the defense. He has a very good nose for the ball and that's what you need if you want lots of fast break points off steals. Last season he chucked too much. But overall, he's still a double-digit scorer who we could use right now. Cole does not come close to replacing him so far like we had hoped. Can't say he's a freshman either...he's a JR technically. Big step from JUCO to major hoops, I get it. But I remember my snap reaction hearing him transfer was more "oh crap that will hurt". We could have lost Ponds and many fans would say "addition by subtraction" lol. I think many say that kind of thing to help cope rather than actually meaning it.[/quote]

The baller from 2yrs ago? Of course I'd rather have that guy. The chucker from last year? Hellz no. I'm glad he's gone
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=405819]Wow...I'm surprised some think Cole would start over LJ. It's still super early, but so far outside of 1 red hot game, I have been a bit concerned. I just don't think we run a competent half c4ourt offense which is the type Cole would be most successful in. Designed plays to get him to catch and shoot. Not sure he has the handles to always convert in crazy back and forth play. Cole and Moore have buttery hands. Who would you trust more in the post and mid range and to finish? I'd say LJ easily there so far. He had lots of crazy floaters but they went in a lot. His first year here was fantastic...his last year was bad because he was not selective or efficient. Like Paultz said, I figured Oregon paid for him.[/quote]

Why couldn't cole start over LJ the chucker? I'd want Anderson to, it doesn't matter who the kid is. If you look like you don't care then you're coming of bench.
LJ the baller from 2yrs ago definitely starts.
 
[quote="EliteBaller K" post=405997]Where's the hot shot shooter, at the under 16 0 shots[/quote]

Dude, are you watching the game? He’s playing within himself and not forcing shots. Not the chucker you accused him of being. If you recall last year, Anderson asked him to take more shots consider how few offensive options we had for most of the season,

I may be in the minority, but I like LJ. I understand him wanting a different system, and I love the guys we have. But I’m happy for him and hoping he does well. He was really good for us the last 2 years.
 
[quote="Jnaw17" post=406001][quote="EliteBaller K" post=405997]Where's the hot shot shooter, at the under 16 0 shots[/quote]

Dude, are you watching the game? He’s playing within himself and not forcing shots. Not the chucker you accused him of being. If you recall last year, Anderson asked him to take more shots consider how few offensive options we had for most of the season,

I may be in the minority, but I like LJ. I understand him wanting a different system, and I love the guys we have. But I’m happy for him and hoping he does well. He was really good for us the last 2 years.[/quote]

Yeah how about that, I guess he actually cares this year.
 
LJ looks way better tonight then he did last year
Guess he's going back to the baller from 2 years ago.
Good for Oregon I guess.
 
[quote="EliteBaller K" post=406004]LJ looks way better tonight then he did last year
Guess he's going back to the baller from 2 years ago.
Good for Oregon I guess.[/quote]

Still say he was trying too hard last year to carry the team. Not happy with how he left, at all, but still think he'd have bought in this year and we'd be a better team if he was still here.
 
[quote="Monte" post=406005][quote="EliteBaller K" post=406004]LJ looks way better tonight then he did last year
Guess he's going back to the baller from 2 years ago.
Good for Oregon I guess.[/quote]

Still say he was trying too hard last year to carry the team. Not happy with how he left, at all, but still think he'd have bought in this year and we'd be a better team if he was still here.[/quote]

If he played like tonight without the chucking
 
[quote="Monte" post=406005][quote="EliteBaller K" post=406004]LJ looks way better tonight then he did last year
Guess he's going back to the baller from 2 years ago.
Good for Oregon I guess.[/quote]

Still say he was trying too hard last year to carry the team. Not happy with how he left, at all, but still think he'd have bought in this year and we'd be a better team if he was still here.[/quote]

Probably all true, but this may not be the system he wants to play in. I don’t know why he left, but I’m good with who we have here now as we build a better and more sustainable winning team going forward. We definitely needed him last year and I agree we could have used him this year. However, we have many more options this year and we’ll get much better as guys learn to play together.

At the same time, I love that the announcers recognized the difference LJ made for Oregon tonight and I hope it continues. He’s a good guy and played very well for us.
 
Going to sound like sour grapes, but watching him and Oregon this evening, I thought Oregon had 4 or 5 players better than LJ. Will be interesting to see if he continues to be happy not being the guy.
 
[quote="Delaware" post=406008]Going to sound like sour grapes, but watching him and Oregon this evening, I thought Oregon had 4 or 5 players better than LJ. Will be interesting to see if he continues to be happy not being the guy.[/quote]

Posters would say the same about our team
 
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