Lavin Wishes He Had 2 More Weeks / NY Post

[we are sju]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

[MCNPA]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

[bobre45]

I'll go with the Coach's instincts on this one. He's close to the situation and so far he's done a better than pretty good job in putting this team together.

 

DLo's got more than his share of personal problems right now and expecting him to be a leader in the face of that is just a bit much to me. We don't have enough info to evaluate the action but I'd be inclined to cut him a little slack right now. At least Evans' benching was supposedly related to basketball and buying into the system. That was eventually worked out and I hope DLo's problem will be too. Overall though I favor face to face confrontations to public punishment in these matters.

 

[MCNPA]

 Im pretty sure Lavin knows D'Lo as well as how to relate and get through to his players better than any of us here.

 

[we are sju]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

[MCNPA]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

SJU is claiming that Sanchez and Bourgault have a yet to be resolved eligibility issue. Not sure what they're not saying?

 

[SJUalum98]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

Maybe you should work PR for the school then.

As much as you're criticizing how the school handled it (maybe there was hope that he'd come back based on what Lavin was telling them), other schools were using his poor health as a way to steer recruits away. I forget which game it was on ESPN where Lavin had to tell Andy Katz that he was fine and improving.

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Too much doom and gloom around here and it's tiring. People sit here and bash the NCAA for what happened last year but it was the lack of effort academically by Jakarr, Amir and Norvel why they were ineligible.

And in all fairness, the staff should have done their due diligence on those players academics. Maybe the staff did and were just hoping for the best. This time around, they're taking all precautions.

Would you rather Lavin suit them up and then we find out they have to be suspended once the season started?

 

[we are sju]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

SJU is claiming that Sanchez and Bourgault have a yet to be resolved eligibility issue. Not sure what they're not saying?

 

According to the quotes from moose it seems they are saying it is a simple matter of what year Sanchez should be and how many years he has to play. In a thread in another forum Moose and others don't even consider the two guys ineligible. If theya re not playing until NCAA says it is ok, then to me at the moment they are not eligible. Hey hopefully everything works out, but would you be shocked if the NCAA comes back and says they are not eligible at all?

 

[we are sju]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

Maybe you should work PR for the school then.

As much as you're criticizing how the school handled it (maybe there was hope that he'd come back based on what Lavin was telling them), other schools were using his poor health as a way to steer recruits away. I forget which game it was on ESPN where Lavin had to tell Andy Katz that he was fine and improving.

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Too much doom and gloom around here and it's tiring. People sit here and bash the NCAA for what happened last year but it was the lack of effort academically by Jakarr, Amir and Norvel why they were ineligible.

And in all fairness, the staff should have done their due diligence on those players academics. Maybe the staff did and were just hoping for the best. This time around, they're taking all precautions.

Would you rather Lavin suit them up and then we find out they have to be suspended once the season started?

 

It is my opinion. If you think how they handled worked, that is your opinion. My only question to you is do you think their handling diminished the rumors or encouraged them. I feel it was the latter.

As far as this issue, i think that there is a chance that both won't be eligible and that it is not simply a matter of years he has left. As far as the age thing I am confused becuase didn't FLA ST have a 28 yeor old kid last year? The center on the GA Tech Mark Price teams Yvonne Joseph graduated at 28 and how old was Chris Weinke? What is the deal with him being older?
Again even if both are not eligible I don't personally have an issue with it becuase IMO that is the risk you run sometimes trying to get talent.

 

[SJUalum98]

well...if Moe had stayed...not sure we would have Sampson... 

 

Wouldnt have had Sanchez.

 

As of this morning, I'm starting to be really concerned we won't have him anyway. 

 


If I were to bet I would go with neither being eligible. Article in the Post this morning about Lavin indicated they are not eligible at the moment. I think the thing about it being whether he is a SR or JR is BS. Again for my money these things happen whe you try to recruit talent, but the story SJU is putting out there seems to be less than forthright.

 

Save your money and don't bet on assumptions you're making based on garbage newspapers. Let it play out.

 
SJU is to concerned with public perception. I thought they handled the Lavin situation terribly last year which led to the rumors and speculation. I think it is pretty clear at this point that there is something else going on here besides what year Sanchez should be listed. I think the school is gun shy about it becuase of last year.

 

You know how rumors and speculation run rampant? Because of the innuendo from guys like yourself based on what your theories. None of us know, but you think it's clear that there some conspiracy. I'm not say both will be cleared, but Lavin has be very forthright and said that there is no timetable and he doesn't know if or when they'll be cleared.

 

I am friendly with one former player and that is the extent of any"inside knowledge". Anything I post is based 99% on what MY FEELING is I and clearly state that. Last year it was almost common knowledge that Coach was going to sit out the rest of year and yet people on here were posting thread after thread predicting Lavin's return. SJU was also sending out conflicting news. The school should have just said Lavin is healthy but wants to concentrate on remaining that way and thought it was best to sit out the year and come back full strength the following year. This would have ended all the rumors.
As far as the Sanchez situation, you do not have to be a conspiracy nut(people whom I despise btw)to figure out that the issue is a little /lot more than what SJU was claiming.

 

Maybe you should work PR for the school then.

As much as you're criticizing how the school handled it (maybe there was hope that he'd come back based on what Lavin was telling them), other schools were using his poor health as a way to steer recruits away. I forget which game it was on ESPN where Lavin had to tell Andy Katz that he was fine and improving.

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Too much doom and gloom around here and it's tiring. People sit here and bash the NCAA for what happened last year but it was the lack of effort academically by Jakarr, Amir and Norvel why they were ineligible.

And in all fairness, the staff should have done their due diligence on those players academics. Maybe the staff did and were just hoping for the best. This time around, they're taking all precautions.

Would you rather Lavin suit them up and then we find out they have to be suspended once the season started?

 

It is my opinion. If you think how they handled worked, that is your opinion. My only question to you is do you think their handling diminished the rumors or encouraged them. I feel it was the latter.

As far as this issue, i think that there is a chance that both won't be eligible and that it is not simply a matter of years he has left. As far as the age thing I am confused becuase didn't FLA ST have a 28 yeor old kid last year? The center on the GA Tech Mark Price teams Yvonne Joseph graduated at 28 and how old was Chris Weinke? What is the deal with him being older?
Again even if both are not eligible I don't personally have an issue with it becuase IMO that is the risk you run sometimes trying to get talent.

 

Sure it encouraged it. It was Cancer though. When you look at what was happening to coaches at the time (ie, Billy Gillespie), other teams were using health to leverage their recruiting and transfers. I think that is sickening. If the school said he was done for the year too early, there would've been rumors of his inability to coach again.

Concerning Sanchez, the staff is just playing it safe. When Lavin mentioned red shirting Gift and Felix, he mentioned new NCAA rules for participation in exhibition games. Who knows. Maybe there is something in the new rules that would rule the players fully ineligible if they played any minutes while they were under NCAA review, even for classification issues. Lavin would know better than us.

All I know is that he appears to be taking the safest route. Let's not draw assumptions any further than that.  

 

[usguard]

Agree 

 

[ras]

 One problem is the rule makes absolutely no sense. Assuming Sanchez is a sr. and eligible to play at least 1 year, Why do we have to sit him out? Unfortunately many NCAA rules dont make sense.

 

[we are sju]

 One problem is the rule makes absolutely no sense. Assuming Sanchez is a sr. and eligible to play at least 1 year, Why do we have to sit him out? Unfortunately many NCAA rules dont make sense.

 

It is not an NCAA rule. There is some question about both the players eligibility. Some posters and I guess SJU is claiming that they-SJU are just being cautious. My point is that there seems to be a question of whether they will be eligible at all. It appears at least to common sense minded people that the question seems to be eligibility not the years of eligibility. 

 

[LINY89]

At this point we really don't even have enough info to speculate on. With that said, the NCAA should be fined for pulling this crap at the last second. This is the kind of stuff that can be the difference between making the tourney or not and going to the NBA or not for recruits. As Lavin indicated, we did all our work on our side with paperwork and all that...it's the NCAA that is dragging its feet and now they will miss at least 1 game, and likely more with how slow they are. What a buzz killer the NCAA is...is it so much to ask to just start the season with our full team? Why did they not bring this crap up months ago?

 

[MCNPA]

At this point we really don't even have enough info to speculate on. With that said, the NCAA should be fined for pulling this crap at the last second. This is the kind of stuff that can be the difference between making the tourney or not and going to the NBA or not for recruits. As Lavin indicated, we did all our work on our side with paperwork and all that...it's the NCAA that is dragging its feet and now they will miss at least 1 game, and likely more with how slow they are. What a buzz killer the NCAA is...is it so much to ask to just start the season with our full team? Why did they not bring this crap up months ago?

 

Agree Joe, this is something that the NCAA should be getting done before teams play games. NCAA is one of the wealthiest organizations around. No excuse for poor resources and slow response. Both of these kids have been playing JC ball at Monroe, and NCAA has had their foreign transcripts in their hands for a long time now. Maybe we'll get lucky and get clearance for Tuesday but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[ras]

 One problem is the rule makes absolutely no sense. Assuming Sanchez is a sr. and eligible to play at least 1 year, Why do we have to sit him out? Unfortunately many NCAA rules dont make sense.

 

It is not an NCAA rule. There is some question about both the players eligibility. Some posters and I guess SJU is claiming that they-SJU are just being cautious. My point is that there seems to be a question of whether they will be eligible at all. It appears at least to common sense minded people that the question seems to be eligibility not the years of eligibility. [/quote Im concerned you maybe right. Although Moose and others say its a classifiction problem. Things dont add up.

 

[we are sju]

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Sorry but if it was just an issue with how many years he had left, not playing him at all just made no sense. It was pretty obvious there was a bigger issue here.

 

[SJUalum98]

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Sorry but if it was just an issue with how many years he had left, not playing him at all just made no sense. It was pretty obvious there was a bigger issue here.

And what were we to go by besides what the head coach himself was telling everybody?

Don't come in here now as the news is about to be released and say that we all were to assume the worse of this. If the head coach is putting out certain information with microphones and tape recorders in his face, we're supposed to say it's something else?

 

[we are sju]

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Sorry but if it was just an issue with how many years he had left, not playing him at all just made no sense. It was pretty obvious there was a bigger issue here.

And what were we to go by besides what the head coach himself was telling everybody?

Don't come in here now as the news is about to be released and say that we all were to assume the worse of this. If the head coach is putting out certain information with microphones and tape recorders in his face, we're supposed to say it's something else?

No, I was saying this in posts all last week. In fact it was pretty obvious by the action taken of not playing them and how long it was taking. I am actually surprises that some of you are surprised

 

[SJUalum98]

Concerning Sanchez, you're reaching. His age is an issue. Lavin knows better than anyone what it's like to be burned by the NCAA. So why not play it as safe as possible until he gets full clearance?

Sorry but if it was just an issue with how many years he had left, not playing him at all just made no sense. It was pretty obvious there was a bigger issue here.

And what were we to go by besides what the head coach himself was telling everybody?

Don't come in here now as the news is about to be released and say that we all were to assume the worse of this. If the head coach is putting out certain information with microphones and tape recorders in his face, we're supposed to say it's something else?

No, I was saying this in posts all last week. In fact it was pretty obvious by the action taken of not playing them and how long it was taking. I am actually surprises that some of you are surprised

And I asked you why should anyone not believe what the head coach was saying? It's a simple question.

Hasn't there been enough doom and gloom around here to think the worse every time something appears to not be going our way?

From your posts, it seems like you wanted Lavin to say in October last year that he wasn't going to coach for the year and this time around on Media Day that Orlando would never suit up in a St. John's uni.