Alkins is hurt. I've been high on devonte but heard from someone who is close that he may not be worth the trouble.
July Recruiting Evaluation Period
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Alkins is hurt. I've been high on devonte but heard from someone who is close that he may not be worth the trouble.
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Adam Zagoria
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Duke/Kentucky/Kansas continuing to offer and recruit the top players in NY / NJ like Mohamed Bamba, Trevon Duval and Rawle Alkins. Between those schools and Villanova and Syracuse, it will be hard for St. John's/Seton Hall/Rutgers to keep any of them home. Same old story really.
Adam Zagoria
2 hrs ·
Duke/Kentucky/Kansas continuing to offer and recruit the top players in NY / NJ like Mohamed Bamba, Trevon Duval and Rawle Alkins. Between those schools and Villanova and Syracuse, it will be hard for St. John's/Seton Hall/Rutgers to keep any of them home. Same old story really.
Personally, I agree with Zags. Too many of these kids are overly-enamored with the Duke's, Kentucky's, and Kansas's of the world. It's gonna be extremely tough for the Johnnies to win these recruiting wars with those particular schools at this juncture. Hopefully, we can get our share in the next tier or "luck out" on a (first tier) kid who may just wanna stay local and learn from Mullin.
Overly enamored with what? Playing for hall of fame coaches in final fours with all your games on national tv? Can't imagine why. It's a slow process back to relevance, an even slower one back to legendary status. Best approach is the big fish small pond approach. Locally and nationally. But it's hard to tell a kid that they're going to be a small fish anywhere, they won't believe it despite the many examples of such that litter past history.
I'm not sure how long you've been watching the sport, but many of the upper echelon kids wasn't always pining for offers from Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, and the likes. Granted, those schools have always gotten more than their share of blue-chippers, but I recall many, McDonald games where players were heading to several different schools. Many of the top-notched players school list's are too similar nowadays versus to what it was back in the day.
I know it's a slow process for us or any, other school in a similar position. But, I've noticed more and more--with each passing year--it's about being a part of a clique, instead of forming their own, per se'.
I tend to agree with this as well but believe Mullin will develop a program with a winning attitude and gives us our best chance of stealing an occasionalbtop recruit. We have been beaten down so far that if he can follow teams like Butler, we can be a consistent winning team and possibly get lucky and get to an elite eight or final four in the next five to seven years. I think we have a distinct advantage with Mullin over Hall and Rutgers and in a few years may be able to recruit like Nova.
That's part revisionist history combined with part progress ignorance. Yes when we were young adults more kids looked to stay home, no matter where they were from. They also thought North Carolina was another country, not the place they went twice a year to play in AAU tournaments. The biggest reason the same schools didn't get every top 20 kid that wanted to leave home was they didn't have 4 one and dones to replace every year. So instead of taking 5 per year they were only taking 2-3 per year leaving more to trickle down.
And every so often there was an anomaly like Rutgers, St. John's, Providence, UMASs and Seton Hall making the final four. Or Indiana State, Butler, Houston and Memphis as well as countless other programs that were not named Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, UCLA or North Carolina. Even lately Wisconsin while in the Big 10 was never a Final Four Program.
Initially, i was referring to local kids staying home, but my latest argument was in reference to many of the top blue-chippers (top 20 -25) lists being nearly iidentical nowadays than it was several years ago. IMO, it didn't particularly have anything to with not being able to attend those schools, per the one and done. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Regarding Indiana State: For the record, Larry Bird initially signed with Indiana when that program was arguably at its peak. But after only a few months, Hoosier madness and the bright lights of Bloomington (and maybe Bobby Knight as well) proved to be too much for him, and he transferred to the largely unheard of, under-the-radar Sycamores. In short, he fell into their lap.
very astute, the one and done will effect all recruiting. Mullin and company will probably change their approach as they mature. Kissing one hundred fannies probably is not the way to go. Must
find character kids where four years of relationship doesn't go down the drain when the prettiest model comes along. Lavin found this out with Briscoe.