Jim Larranaga to Step Down

RedStormNC said:
Assuming it really was on his own and not forced, definitely agree. If so, should have stuck out for 10 weeks and hold true to what all these coaches preach about leading and building men and dealing with adversity and not quitting. NIL era or not, should hold true if he believes it. Same goes for Bennett.
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It’s been clear the past month he just wasn’t into it anymore and I mentioned on another thread a few weeks back that I wasn’t sure he’d even finish this season.

“Stepping down” now makes sense for all parties involved. Larranaga doesn’t have go through the motions for the next 2.5 months at 75 years old as a lame duck on a team going nowhere. The school gets a head start on their official search and maybe the interim injects some life into them and they become a little more competitive than they’ve been.

Obviously a lot of factors at play, but this job and the timing feels perfect for Will Wade
 
Lots of Caputo talk and he would be a brutal hire for them IMO. Went 4-14 in the A10 in his year 2 last year. Thus far this year they are 11-2 but that’s only because they have the 363rd toughest strength of schedule out of 364 D1 teams. Their best win is on a neutral over Illinois State. They lost by 12 to Kansas State and in OT at American. Miami should be shooting higher than that unless they want to be Wake Forest and Georgia Tech going forward
 
fordham96 said:
30 day Portal Window now open for Miami players.

A lot of major programs are at thr e13 scholarship limit be interesting to see what teams have available schollies and can take a player mid-year.
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Football is jumping from 85 to 105, while baseball is getting a huge boost, going from 11.7 to 34. Men's basketball will go from 13 to 15. Volleyball and Softball are getting big boosts too. https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/new-ncaa-scholarship-rules.694482/
 
fordham96 said:
30 day Portal Window now open for Miami players.

A lot of major programs are at thr e13 scholarship limit be interesting to see what teams have available schollies and can take a player mid-year.
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Unless the courts intervene (and outside the Ivy League ruling that did not give Lelia and Dingle a Covid year, the NCAA record of winning a court challenge to their regulations has been abysmal), anyone who leaves Miami now will have to wait until next year to play. So they can leave but will have to sit the rest of the year.
 
tom in salem said:
Football is jumping from 85 to 105, while baseball is getting a huge boost, going from 11.7 to 34. Men's basketball will go from 13 to 15. Volleyball and Softball are getting big boosts too. https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/new-ncaa-scholarship-rules.694482/
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tom in salem said:
Easier read. https://honestgame.com/blog/ncaa-roster-limits/
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That is not official yet and is part of the Settlement Agreement that the judge sent back due to what she felt was a clause that served as a defecto cap on potential NIL earnings.
 
sjc88 said:
I suspect we are going to see a lot of this moving forward. Wholesale roster changes are already the norm. CB is like the Wild West. Very few rules with wide open free agency EVERY season.

Personally I like “the games” themselves. However, I feel like this is a less talented mini NBA without the guardrails. Either you can “like the games” or it won’t be enough. Some schools will have no chance to compete. Maybe they never did but this is no longer an amateur charade.
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I don't even "like the games" anymore. I haven't watched one second of any other game besides SJU games. Even at that, from Nov-March, my entire schedule used to revolve around when SJU was playing. If I couldn't watch live, I'd record the game. Now, if I happen to be free when they're playing I'll watch. Sadly, the sport has pretty much totally lost its appeal to me. And once I'm done(with anything or anyone), I'm done. About the only sport I watch regularly is the NFL, and that's mostly because I like to bet on the games.
 
Why is it that every tweet I see about Rick leaving for another job I both know is complete bs but also worries me? Likely just accustom to expect the worst with our program. Grant makes the most sense though.
 
tom in salem said:
I was always a big fan of the soccer teams, we were good and competitive. Mens soccer rosters will triple and the women will double. To what end? It's as if they randomly chose numbers to increase all the sports rosters. Lacrosse 12 to 48. Seriously?
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The richer schools can cast a wider net and pay the freight to carry more players.
 
Great coach and person who I had the opportunity to meet years ago as a rising assistant coach. Can’t blame him as college sports have become the ultimate $hit $how, far worse than pro sports at this point. Theres no more loyalty, honesty etc. The type of individual who will be attracted to the coaching ranks now will have the same MO as the players…… how much and how soon.

I’m glad I grew up in a time where the name on the front actually meant something, students were actual students, rivalries were legit and a coaches time was actually spent on player development not on negotiating NIL deals.
 
It was going to happen anyway, but Miami, under Larranaga, were out front and center paying huge amounts and using the NIL ruling to go pay-for-play. He helped create the current environment. Miami paid big time for the Final Four he is getting credit for in all his retirement stories. Now he says he was dismayed when the same mercenaries he paid wanted a bigger payday after delivering? Talk about disingenuous.

I'm not defending the Wild West that now exists, but this is the last guy who should be complaining.

As for bailing mid-season, it's an awful look, but that part might not be his idea, he was probably forced out.
 
tom in salem said:
I was always a big fan of the soccer teams, we were good and competitive. Mens soccer rosters will triple and the women will double. To what end? It's as if they randomly chose numbers to increase all the sports rosters. Lacrosse 12 to 48. Seriously?
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This is not going to be a real increase (in some cases it is an actual decrease) in the amount of players a team can roster in a sport, just an increase in the amount of scholarships they can give. Most teams were carrying this or close to this amount anyway. Examples:

Men’s Basketball
Currently allow 15 players to dress for a game while 13 (14 in Women’s) are allowed to be on scholarship. Under the new proposal, 15 is the new scholarship max allowed which matches the amount on the roster. No net increase/decrease in roster size.

Football
While 85 scholarships are allowed, 120 players are allowed to be rostered. Under the proposed change, 105 will be allowed to have scholarships and that is the maximum amount that can be rostered. This is an increase of 20 scholarships but a decrease of 15 roster spots.

Baseball
Unlike football and basketball, this and other sports are allowed to split scholarships. Quite frankly, they have to because they don’t provide enough full scholarships to field in some cases a full team that is allowed to be on the field/pitch/court/rink let alone the number of reserves needed.

Baseball currently allows a roster of 40 (it was 35 prior to the pandemic, I believe it was scheduled to go back to 35 this season) but only 11.7 scholarships which could be split among 27 players. The proposed rule changes now 34 roster all of which can be full scholarships. An increase in scholarships but decrease in roster size. This past season, St. John’s carried 40 players on their roster.

Men’s Soccer
Currently the roster size here is between 30 - 35 but only 9.9 full scholarships which is less than the 11 allowed on the field at anytime. Scholarships of course here are split. New proposed rule is 28 scholarships and roster, an increase in scholarships but decrease in roster size.

Women’s Soccer
Currently the roster size here is between 30 - 35 and 14 full scholarships which is three more than the 11 allowed on the field at anytime. Scholarships of course here are split. New proposed rule is 28 scholarships and roster, an increase in scholarships but decrease in roster size.

Men’s Lacrosse
While I am not sure how many players are allowed currently on a roster, 12 is the current amount of scholarships allowed. St. John’s currently has 52 players listed on their roster for the upcoming season. New proposed rule caps their roster and scholarship size to 48, a decrease in four in roster size.

Now while some of the players on rosters that did not receive any form of athletic scholarship were recruited. They and others who received partial athletic scholarships received assistance for tuition/room/board in the form of academic scholarships, various grants etc. (football teams used NIL instead of scholarships for recruited long snappers, punters and place kickers so they can use their athletic scholarship allotments elsewhere). These will no longer be needed for this purpose.

While NIL for other sports are considerably less for non-football and basketball teams, it is still use to help fund players not on full scholarship in places like the SEC, ACC and Big 12 where Baseball and Softball are actually revenue generators and draw a lot of fans, support and benefactors.


It will be interesting to see how many schools fund all of these scholarships on a consistent basis as it will be a big increase in the athletic budgets.
 
MainMan said:
Four pages on the guy who coached Bowling Green against us in Felipe Lopez's first game as a Johnny.

When's our next game?

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Actually Felipe’s second game as a Johnnie. Beat Dartmouth the day before Bowling Green.
 
Larranaga was a great coach and a very nice guy. I live near George Mason and we've had season's tickets off and on for many years, back to when he was the coach there. The Final Four run in 2006 was as good as any in NCAA history - wins over Michigan State, North Carolina, Wichita State and UConn. With a bunch of local guys from across the river in PG County.

One quick story... I was coaching my son's CYO team when Coach was at Mason (this was right after the Final Four run). I called up Coach's secretary about bringing in our team to watch a Mason practice. We watched practice (some of the drills he did were great) and then got up to leave when practice ended. We were walking out a long hallway under the arean when I hear "Hey Coach" - it was Coach L, running down the hallway to catch up to us. He said that he was sorry that he didn't come by to say hello to our team during practice, but why don't we come in to the locker-room and meet the players? He brought us all in, the kids got to meet and high five all the Mason players in the locker room and he brought us into his office and talked to the kids for a few minutes.

Class act all the way.

I live and breathe Johnnies hoops, and Lou Carnesecca is on my personal Mount Rushmore (along with Seaver, Namath and Dr. J), but I'll always have a soft spot for Coach L.
 
monte said:
I don't even "like the games" anymore. I haven't watched one second of any other game besides SJU games. Even at that, from Nov-March, my entire schedule used to revolve around when SJU was playing. If I couldn't watch live, I'd record the game. Now, if I happen to be free when they're playing I'll watch. Sadly, the sport has pretty much totally lost its appeal to me. And once I'm done(with anything or anyone), I'm done. About the only sport I watch regularly is the NFL, and that's mostly because I like to bet on the games.
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I hear you. One thing that no one mentions. In the past our season would start on the Friday after Thanksgiving. Now we already have several games in the bank prior to TG. I use to eat up coverage of the Great Alaska shootout and the Maui Classic. Get a little barometer on the National scene. We also have already played TWO conference games prior to January. January was when the Conference started.

Now? It’s just saturation and noise. If St. John’s isn’t on it just feels like one in another million games. Just feels off putting. But that’s just me.
 
Jim Larranaga is a great coach. Jim Larranaga is likely going to the Hall-of-Fame. Jim Larranaga came off as disingenuous and quit on his team, program and fans. Sure he's 75 and rich so what does he owe anyone. But that's just not how sports work. That's not how leaders of men act, this is big business and players came to Miami to play for him because of how successful he's been.

Miami was the first school that was front and center flaunting their NIL strength with Diaz and Life Wallet with that 800k over two year deal and Mercedez cars etc. No one is going to feel bad for them. But Larranaga citing he's exhausted when the team is conveniently 4-8 is comedy. Why wasn't he tired in October? According to Matt Norlander and Gary Parrish as of a few weeks ago when they actually brought up the struggles of Miami this season, they said that Jim was adamant he was no where near retirement this summer and was a basketball lifer with no other hobbies.

The fact is the narrative around Jim doing this is him getting a pass because of his age, yet if a player did this they'd be dragged through the mud. Such is life I know, double standards for everything and everyone given status and where you are in life. But this is wrong. Will it change Miami's season with an interim coach or even if Jim stayed? Probably not. Was it the right thing to do? In my opinion hard to view it as anything other than quitting on your guys.
 
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