Is there anything official?
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Interesting is one possible term revolting is another.
Why the top player in the City who plays a few blocks away from school has to practically publicly beg for an offer is shameful and speaks volumes about the former staff.
This is not asking to go visit a player in Alaska or Hawaii but rather a kid around the corner from the top high school in perhaps the state.
Ask yourselves why has Coach Mullin done more in three days in terms of offering recruits from 2015-2018, endearing himself and the program to local coaches and program's , CTK, St. Raymond's , Roselle Catholic , etc , and building an SJU brand with inviting teams to watch practice , getting us involved with no less than three 6 10 inch and bigger players we were never mentionned with for 2015, 2016 and 2018 , is mind boggling to me.
I appreciate ex coach Lavin recruiting nationally and thank him for the time spent taking us from mediocrity to being discussed , but clearly he didn't get it or have what was required for this job.
Coach Mullin and Matt A understand we don't have and never will have the facilities of Duke or Kentucky and will overcome some of our obstacles through hard work and building relationships exactly the way Coach Mullin ended up at SJU 34 years ago. He knew Lou from being a camper at his camp for many a year.
Thank you to the new president for having the vision to hire the right man for the job, who understands what it will take to succeed at SJU in a major way.
Zach's articles are actually a good read when he's not pissing on our head coach at every turn
Agreed. I am just surprised that so many people are just now having this revelation that Steve's recruiting was lazy/poor. It was fairly obvious for quite some time.
Too many fans were willing to give him more and more rope (i.e. "let's just let it play out" and "in Lav we trust").
Thorough and insightful post as usual Beast. You and a number of other well known posters lead us as a quality site! I gave you a "thank you" but wanted to add this observation.
I do not listen to WFAN any longer but waiting now for son arriving at LaG. Listening to Richard Neer whom I like as a person. But several times he alone or with a caller disparaged (the usual stuff) SJU and recent changes:
Mullin has no experience
Young players have no clue whom Mullin is
Local stars want out of the city
Local stars want Calipari & the NBA
And a Syracuse fan added that his school/ACC are superior etc.
I was disappointed that Neer wasn't more prepared to discuss the " other" facts we are all aware of:
Mullin is not just some grad but he's passionate about what he's doing; kids' parents and HS/AAU coaches know well whom Chris is; our new Coach has already hired a top assistant, has already reached out to the high school movers & shakers; he's either visited and/ or invited high school coaches...
Neer missed the point that Jarvis/Lavin did not cultivate the local recruiting base and if anything snubbed them. There was alienation rather then harmony.
Thanks again. The obvious: good times are here already!!!
all the best
As, an overall group..... Maybe, they weren't as aggressive. But Chiles was fairly aggressive. By the way, do you believe CTK's coach was the only one with an agenda? Actually, Lavin got the second best senior in NYC a season ago in ADR. He may have been able to get the best senior (Whitehead), but chose not to go that particular route for known reasons.
Dink Lavin got ADR because there was no other school near the high D1 level who was willing to offer him guaranteed PT, and who was willing to take his brother as well. Time will tell if he can get in the kind of shape he'll need to get in to in order to be a "serviceable" big man at this level. As for your comment about Rawle's tweet, you thinking that wasn't actually Rawle? Not challenging you, just trying to get your take. This much I will tell you, there was no reason in the world why the previous staff shouldn't have offered. The kid has said all along that staying home to play ball is a strong consideration for him. And that is straight from the horse's mouth. Rawle's a real good kid, liked by everyone from his classmates, to his teachers, to his coaches. Humble and affable. Haven't heard any mention of "his people" or "his camp" as we've heard about other recruits. So I wouldn't expect much of the drama we see around other kids. Yes there is an academic concern, but hopefully he buckles down and that becomes a non-issue. He'll light up CA and MSG as both a person and as a ballplayer, if we are fortunate enough to get him.
Beast was chatting with a client of mine about college hoops a few weeks ago. Young guy , with a newborn, who lives in the city but is originally from Greenwich Conn. Went to UCLA undergrad and Stanford Grad. He said to me "Mark I love college hoops and would absolutely love for St. Johns to be successful. I plan on taking my son to college basketball games as soon as he's old enough to go and I obviously won't be able to take him to the UCLA and Stanford games. St. John's would be my adopted team!". A strong St. John's team, especially one with a NYC flavor, will have no trouble getting the impartial NYC basketball fan on its bandwagon.
These kids say a lot of things. Someone just recently stated Alkins talked about getting out of NYC. This was also a direct quote from Alkins. These youngsters tend to be fickle.
Norm kissed plenty of rings, and where did that get him when it was all said and done?
It sounds personal with some of y'all. I'd hope most of y'all can move on, and try to enjoy what the new staff is trying to establish, instead of continuing to harp on Lavin.
So, will Mullin feel the wrath, if he brings in Alkins, and he doesn't make the grade or never find his way onto the court at St. John's?
freeball177
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One thing I don't get is this notion that recruits don't know who Mullin is. Maybe they don't, but if they are contacted by St. Johns coach Chris Mullin, my guess is that they use this thing called the internet. On the internet there are such things as Wikipedia and Youtube. After reading and watching a couple videos I think they will know who he is
A lot of today's HS players have no idea who Chris Mullin is. That's just reality. But as you said, all you need to do is go to YouTube and there are thousands of videos on him. All you need to do is ask your coach who that guy is and you'll probably be lectured about how that is one of the best players ever to come out of NY.
It remains to be seen if he'll be a successful coach or not. It also remains to be seen if he'll be able to sell kids on the SJU program. But the fact is Mullin brings instant credibility.
It remains to be seen if he'll be a successful coach or not. It also remains to be seen if he'll be able to sell kids on the SJU program. But the fact is Mullin brings instant credibility.
Agree, but how many coaches are household names? Just a small hand full. Rest assured these kid's parents and coaches know who Mullin is, and with the way he's making his presence known, it will only be a matter of time before those kids who don't know who he is quickly find out. Not to worried about this.